True Shooting Percentage

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06-25-2013, 09:58 PM
BeeBall Reasons

True Shooting Percentage

In this thread I'll calculate the true shooting percentage on every teams 3 scoring options/top 3 scorers. I hope it gives you some insight for your team. I know it helped mine. It's early and I'll be updating this thread every so often. You can also make requests if you don't know (or are too lazy) to calculate it.

Here's an example of what it will look like.

76ers
Jerry Stackhouse .481
Danny Granger .576
Kenyon Martin .423

Bucks
Gilbert Arenas .648 (insane historically in this category)
Antoine Walker .438
Shareef AbdurRahim .463

Bulls (Lebron wasn't a top 3 scorer)
Jalen Rose .632
Andrew Bogut .712
Stephon Marbury .542

After calculating the first 3 teams, I can tell it is way to early to do this but tell me what you think and what you want out of this.

I can tell you right now that from previous calculations in this league.
.480 is about average
.500 is pretty solid
.520 is what you want from a number two option
.540 is what you want from a number one option
.560 is elite of high usage players only Kevin Garnett, Gilbert Arenas, and Joe Johnson are in this category
06-25-2013, 10:13 PM
Trell

I request one!!!!!!!!!
06-25-2013, 10:16 PM
BeeBall Reasons

Quote:

Originally Posted by Trell

I request one!!!!!!!!!

well im going to do every team. Just if you want a specific player who isn't a top 3 scorer.
06-25-2013, 10:20 PM
bojangles837

id like billups as well.. thanks man
06-26-2013, 01:47 PM
Inner_GI

how are you calculating this. When I calculate it. Stackhouse TS% is 44% and Granger is 51%
06-26-2013, 02:02 PM
IamQuailman

Dat Gilbert.

Can I see Chandler and Tony Allen as well?
06-26-2013, 02:14 PM
RealPelicans Fan

im scared to see my team
06-26-2013, 02:42 PM
BeeBall Reasons

Are you calculating true shooting percentage or effective field goal percentage. True shooting includes free throws.
06-26-2013, 02:48 PM
Inner_GI

Quote:

Originally Posted by BeeBall Reasons

Are you calculating true shooting percentage or effective field goal percentage. True shooting includes free throws.

TS%. I got the formula from Basketball-Reference.com and double checked it on Hoopdata
06-26-2013, 03:29 PM
BeeBall Reasons

Pts/((fga + .44 x fta) x2)

Your numbers seem really low
06-26-2013, 03:43 PM
Inner_GI

Quote:

Originally Posted by BeeBall Reasons

Pts/((fga + .44 x fta) x2)

Your numbers seem really low

It's actually:

PTS / 2*(FGA + (.44 * FTA))

You may just have the order of operation wrong.

So for Jerry Stackhouse:

He has 7 3s and (57-7) 2s

So: 21 + 100 = 121 Points
FGA: 131
FTA: 14

TS% = 121 / 2*(131 + (.44 * 14))
TS% = 121 / 2*(131 + (6.16))
TS% = 121 /2*(137.16)
TS% = 121 / 274.32
TS% = .441090697

Correct me if I'm wrong. I like your numbers better. lol
06-26-2013, 04:22 PM
BeeBall Reasons

No I do that. I multiply game by points per game for points you aren't counting made freethrows
06-26-2013, 04:23 PM
IamQuailman

Btw, thanks BeeBall
06-26-2013, 04:26 PM
Inner_GI

Quote:

Originally Posted by BeeBall Reasons

No I do that. I multiply game by points per game for points you aren't counting made freethrows

AHHH. That's it. I'll add that it.

Yea, Stackhouse went to 48% with that... good looking out!

It brought Prince from TS% of .34 to .456. :clap:
06-26-2013, 04:27 PM
BeeBall Reasons

Quote:

Originally Posted by IamQuailman

Btw, thanks BeeBall

For his money, not counting rookie guys, Gilbert Arenas is the best in the league. Good thing waukee has enough Canada in it to keep him off of guns.
06-26-2013, 04:29 PM
BeeBall Reasons

I'll also include team true shooting percentage. I'll release the results after the week 3 sim so I have a larger sample size and more telling data.
06-26-2013, 04:32 PM
IamQuailman

Quote:

Originally Posted by BeeBall Reasons

For his money, not counting rookie guys, Gilbert Arenas is the best in the league. Good thing waukee has enough Canada in it to keep him off of guns.

I can't access the index at work... can you do Tony Allen and TC's TS%? THANKS BROOOOOOOOOOO!!!
06-26-2013, 04:38 PM
BeeBall Reasons

Allen .677
Tc .486

Allen's numbers show that you have to wait for a larger sample size for these numbers to be useful.
06-26-2013, 04:51 PM
IamQuailman

Quote:

Originally Posted by BeeBall Reasons

Allen .677
Tc .486

Allen's numbers show that you have to wait for a larger sample size for these numbers to be useful.

Hahaha... yeah I was about to say
06-26-2013, 05:18 PM
BeeBall Reasons

Quote:

Originally Posted by IamQuailman

Hahaha... yeah I was about to say

actually just kidding make him the #1 option now!
06-26-2013, 05:21 PM
bojangles837

Can I get Billups numbers bball
06-26-2013, 05:23 PM
BeeBall Reasons

Quote:

Originally Posted by bojangles837

Can I get Billups numbers bball

.584
06-26-2013, 05:24 PM
bojangles837

Quote:

Originally Posted by BeeBall Reasons

.584

Thanks my dawg
06-26-2013, 05:26 PM
Make It Rain

Thanks for doing this
06-26-2013, 05:29 PM
BeeBall Reasons

Quote:

Originally Posted by Make It Rain

Thanks for doing this

I'll have all the numbers for every team included once you don't get crazy stuff like .712. And don't mention it. I do about half of the numbers anyway. Might as well just post the results.
06-26-2013, 05:31 PM
BallSoHard

W rich ariza t Mac and Duncan please :)
06-26-2013, 05:31 PM
Inner_GI

Quote:

Originally Posted by BallSoHard

W rich ariza t Mac and Duncan please :)

I'm surprised you don't have this already. lol
06-26-2013, 05:32 PM
BallSoHard

I don't really start with analytical until sim 4 or 5 or so
06-26-2013, 05:52 PM
Make It Rain

Quote:

Originally Posted by BeeBall Reasons

I'll have all the numbers for every team included once you don't get crazy stuff like .712. And don't mention it. I do about half of the numbers anyway. Might as well just post the results.

Yea I knew Bogut was playing well so far, but god damn .712 is absolutely nuts!
06-26-2013, 05:55 PM
Soundwave

Iirc Mo Pete was 57% and Peja 54% last year.
06-26-2013, 06:09 PM
TrayWithAnA

Sorry to do this to you but since everyone else is asking, Martin, Wallace, Ilyasova
06-26-2013, 06:17 PM
Inner_GI

Quote:

Originally Posted by BallSoHard

I don't really start with analytical until sim 4 or 5 or so

so you play catch up with all the box scores? I start right away and lose interest because it's so time consuming.
06-26-2013, 06:28 PM
BeeBall Reasons

Quote:

Originally Posted by Soundwave

Iirc Mo Pete was 57% and Peja 54% last year.

not surprised on Peja. Congrats on Mo Pete that is really elite. If he scored at a higher volume he'd be in the Garnett, Johnson, Arenas group. I hope Harrington can have similar success as an ex hornet.
06-26-2013, 06:29 PM
BeeBall Reasons

i'll do all of them after the third sim. The numbers won't help you much right now.
06-26-2013, 11:15 PM
Soundwave

Just some quickies from my team so far this season.

Eisley 61.5
Peja 57.7
Pollard 57.5
Mo Pete 57.1
Andre Miller 55.5
Mike Miller 53.4
06-26-2013, 11:16 PM
Inner_GI

Quote:

Originally Posted by Soundwave

Just some quickies from my team so far this season.

Eisley 61.5
Peja 57.7
Pollard 57.5
Mo Pete 57.1
Andre Miller 55.5
Mike Miller 53.4

Eisley was great as a shooter off the bench for me last year.
06-26-2013, 11:18 PM
Soundwave

Quote:

Originally Posted by Inner_GI

Eisley was great as a shooter off the bench for me last year.

His A/TO ratio is at 8 right now too. He is crazy good in limited minutes. I would love to know, but don't want to have to find out what he would do with extend playing time.
06-26-2013, 11:19 PM
Pelicans78

What's James Posey true shooting %?
06-26-2013, 11:26 PM
Soundwave

Quote:

Originally Posted by Pelicans78

What's James Posey true shooting %?

I thought this was a serious question til I actually looked it up.

31.3
06-26-2013, 11:40 PM
Inner_GI

Quote:

Originally Posted by Soundwave

His A/TO ratio is at 8 right now too. He is crazy good in limited minutes. I would love to know, but don't want to have to find out what he would do with extend playing time.

I think he asked my for like 3 MILL a year, so I was like ehhh. I'll find something else, and all my moves missed. Still he's a really good at playing backup 1 and 2.
06-27-2013, 12:15 PM
RealPelicans Fan

is it possible for me to get Jason Richardson, Jarrett Jack, Bobby Simmons and Dwight Howard?
06-27-2013, 12:18 PM
IamQuailman

Can I get Tony Allen, Frye and Tyson Chandler (as well as gil and walker again)? PREESH!!
06-27-2013, 01:00 PM
Soundwave

Quote:

Originally Posted by IamQuailman

Can I get Tony Allen, Frye and Tyson Chandler (as well as gil and walker again)? PREESH!!

Crappy, Crappy, Decent
06-27-2013, 01:06 PM
IamQuailman

#s?
06-27-2013, 01:15 PM
Soundwave

Quote:

Originally Posted by IamQuailman

#s?

That was just the eyeball test.
06-27-2013, 01:17 PM
IamQuailman

Oh haha... thanks :p Allen's been playing rather well.... just not sure if i wanna throw him that 3rd option nod yet... And I'm curious to know how the Rockets did with Jefferson as the scoring option off the bench