To say Enes Kanter is pissed about LeBron's comments would be an understatement pic.twitter.com/ocsNfBm93r
— Bobby Reagan (@BarstoolReags) October 15, 2019
Is Lebron James a communist?
https://www.barstoolsports.com/viral...es-a-communist
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To say Enes Kanter is pissed about LeBron's comments would be an understatement pic.twitter.com/ocsNfBm93r
— Bobby Reagan (@BarstoolReags) October 15, 2019
Is Lebron James a communist?
https://www.barstoolsports.com/viral...es-a-communist
Let me clear up the confusion. I do not believe there was any consideration for the consequences and ramifications of the tweet. I’m not discussing the substance. Others can talk About that.
— LeBron James (@KingJames) October 15, 2019
My team and this league just went through a difficult week. I think people need to understand what a tweet or statement can do to others. And I believe nobody stopped and considered what would happen. Could have waited a week to send it.
— LeBron James (@KingJames) October 15, 2019
Anthony Davis playing a communist now? Yeah should have kept your mouth shut LBJ.
Hey UNO Gracias you there?
Maybe this will clear it up
https://foreignpolicy.com/2011/01/03...mmunist-party/
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Communist_Party_of_China
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ideolo...Party_of_China
Yes it is pretty easy to make comparisons to OUR so called leader but let us not go there. Let us stick to should Lebron said anything at all?
Avoiding all talk of what is, or is not communism (since that's what got the last thread on this China issue locked, so it's probably not worth going into again), my take on this is basically that Lebron should have given some variant of a ''no comment'' answer.
While I agree with him that it's likely that Morey has relatively little understanding of the political situation in China, I also think that it's probable that Lebron has very little knowledge of it either. He kind of slipped up and gave the game away in his original controversial answer, where (although he later added physical, mental, etc) his first type of risk he brought up was financial. Lebron James has a billion dollar Nike deal, reputedly, and his best friend has a life-time contract with a Chinese shoe company. It's clear that his first priority was to be concerned about the money; the almighty dollar remains undefeated.
That, though, is largely to be expected. Lebron James has hundreds of millions of dollars, and extreme wealth perverts people's thinking. So I'm not surprised that that's his ultimate take, although it is disappointing.
What I find more disappointing, and unacceptable frankly, is that Lebron James - the man who was (wrongly and unfairly) subjected to the ''shut up and hoop'' style comments more than almost anyone else when he spoke about political issues - would be the one to essentially come out and tell Morey ''shut up and manage'' when it comes to this. That's intensely hypocritical. If Lebron has the right to speak up about injustices in the US, which he definitely does, then why should Morey not have the right to speak his piece on injustices elsewhere? Because it might cost Lebron some money? That's ridiculous.
That's my take on it, at least.
Will repeat though, just for people who don't wanna read the above text in full: DISCUSSION OF WHAT IS OR ISN'T COMMUNISM WILL GET THE THREAD LOCKED.
Unless you want the thread to get closed, talk about Lebron James, players rights to speak about things, whether Lebron is right or not, etc, but don't turn it into an argument about socioeconomic arrangements or political philosophy.
Loving the LeBron slander. For once I am grateful he opened his mouth. Because now people see who he truly is. He's only after his self interest, and he doesn't give a damn about anyone else.
I'm not sure why you and LeBron would think that Morey has "little understanding of the political situation in China." I'm pretty sure he fully understands, which is why he sent the tweet. You don't work for the Houston Rockets in his capacity and not have a decent understanding of Chinese policy. Otherwise, I agree with what you are saying
Being rich does not equal being smart. Somebody needs to tell the King he has no clothes on.
They burning his jersey
https://www.tmz.com/2019/10/14/lebro...rey-china-nba/
These “social justice” famous athletes are showing their true colors now. Usually so quick to weigh in expressing righteousness when wasn’t going to cost anything. Now all of a sudden when these millionaires stand to lose out on even more millions, they are intimidated into backing oppression on a worse scale than anything people face in this country. Wave bye bye to your credibility on “taking a stand” for human rights.
ESPN is trying to bury the story
woke in America where its safe but completely silent when things are actually terrible over money is pretty funny.
woke is a branding tool for a simple audience. LeBron is the simplest.
https://chumley-barstoolsports-com.c...0/15/broon.jpg
The shirts are out already.
Barstool Sports the same people that have sold thousands and thousands of clown Goodell shirts made the Lebron shirt.
I feel it unlikely that Morey has a powerful grasp of the situation because, frankly, most people don't. Including people whose job it is to write on the topic: the number of wildly misinformed and speculative articles I've read on the situation is staggering.
I'm not pretending that I have some masterful grasp of it either: it's a very complex situation with multiple moving sides, and I do not consider myself an expert on Sinopolitical relations. But I have enough knowledge of it to know that you'd need to spend some serious time devoted to that specific thing in order to have a legitimate grasp on it, and that's something I'm fairly doubtful that any individual has done, whether it's Morey, Lebron, or even Adam Silver himself. Maybe that's unfair, but while it's definitely unfair to assume that other people know as little as you do in any given situation like this, I think it's also very unfair to assume that anyone who speaks out on a topic is an authority.
I am getting that chairman Bron shirt.
Perk, aside from anything else, is not a very good speaker. I don't wanna cast aspersions on his intelligence in general or anything, I don't know, but the dude just sucks at talking.
Muhammad Ali's Ex-Wife, 'I Love LeBron But He's No Muhammad Ali' https://t.co/KaWVLtdU0W
— TMZ Sports (@TMZ_Sports) October 15, 2019
That's a copout. There is not "multiple complex sides" to it. Its a basic foundational principle of our society that people should be able to criticize government, especially tyrannical government. The idea that Morey was "misinformed" for supporting people wanting basic human rights is absurd, but even more absurd is the idea that people should be afraid to voice that opinion.
I'm not saying Morey isn't or shouldn't be allowed to criticise government though. Of course he is, and I would never argue otherwise. I'm just saying if you asked him for details on these protests, I don't think he'd be able to go into much depth. I'd be mildly surprised if he could even identify the different groups within the larger protest bloc.
I largely support the protesters myself, although there are certain sub-groups within the protesters that I can't really find myself jelling with. But in terms of whether the protesters or the government are in the moral right, here, I subscribe to the same mindsight of George Orwell on the topic:
''I have no particular love for the idealised "worker" as he appears in the bourgeois Communist's mind, but when I see an actual flesh-and-blood worker in conflict with his natural enemy, the policeman, I do not have to ask myself which side I am on.''
Lebron should've never been pressured to comment on something that doesn't concern him. Theres a billion Chinese, Lebron doesnt need to be an activist for them. He has his own community to worry about.
Lebron did it because he is an arrogant, self-righteous dumb dumb that thought he could get away with it. Funny thing is, he is probably right that Morey shouldn’t have tweeted about the situation. Kaepernick shouldn’t have kneeled during the national anthem either. You want to know why? You are representing your brand/employers. You are getting payed to represent the league- not your own self-interests. Having said that, this is America, where you are allowed to speak your opinions. Lebron trying to get Morey fined after all of his self-righteous “freedom warrior” spiel is hypocritical. He isn’t wrong about Morey needing to keep his mouth shut for the good of the league.
LeBron makes many, many millions of dollars selling shoes and other things to the Chinese. It's pretty clear that this matter is something that concerns him. Of course, he chose to comment in an attempt to preserve his future income streams at the expense of democracy and freedom.
Mao Tse Lebron
It just bothers me for several reasons.
1. Lebron actually thinks he holds the power to dictate who gets fined and all that Jazz.
2. He is a massive player in the overbearing woke brigade. I get why he would be upset, in fact I don’t blame him. Just keep your damned mouth shut on this! Are you really going to send the message that you only want freedom when it benefits YOU? Hypocrisy at its finest
3. Some of the talking heads are actually defending him. You might as well just say the woke movement is a farce and move on. Freedom for all, or freedom not at all
Morey is 100 percent reprehensible whether he intended these consequences or not. I’ll give him the benefit of a doubt and say he was foolish enough not to realize the gravity of those comments. He screwed a lot of people. Lebron just keeps losing my respect by the day.
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Tell em Qing James!
You don’t need to be an expert on Sinopolitical relations to support basic freedoms and human rights. That is exactly what I meant when I said what you posted is a cop out. Morey doesn’t need to know the history of every Chinese dynasty to know that it’s wrong to kidnap people based on their religion or political beliefs. Of course not.
LeBron saying Morey was “misinformed”, while also claiming that he himself doesn’t have enough information to comment, makes no sense. The man has built his brand on standing for social justice, and it’s clear that was just a marketing strategy.
I'll repeat myself:
''I'm not saying Morey isn't or shouldn't be allowed to criticise government though. Of course he is, and I would never argue otherwise. I'm just saying if you asked him for details on these protests, I don't think he'd be able to go into much depth.''
I have not said, will not say, and am not saying that Morey is wrong to support basic freedoms, or to criticise the Chinese government, OR that he needs to be an expert on 4th century Chinese trade routes in order to speak on the subject. All I am saying is that I don't think he is an expert on these matters. You don't need to be an expert to have an opinion on the topic.
You're exactly right when you say ''of course not''. Because of course it would be silly to imply that you can't make a judgement call without getting a history degree first. Which is exactly why I'm not saying that you do, and any of the numerous attempts to make it seem like that IS what I'm doing are just disingenuous at best.
I'll repeat: Being rich doesn't equal being smart
I don’t think Lebron is stupid. I just think his opinion of himself is very warped from reality. He thought he was above it all and he has finally overstepped a boundary that he couldn’t cross. I’ll be glad when he is out of the game after the tampering fiasco.
Lebron isnt the only one making millions selling things to China. Doing business with a country doesn't mean he has to be an activist for that country. If he was living in China that would be different. People shouldn't be calling him a fake activist because he doesn't want to speak on another country's issues. Because no matter what he says, he will offend someone
That is exactly why he shouldn’t have said anything at all. He criticized someone for doing something he would have done himself (if it aligned with his interests). He did not have the right to request a fine for somebody else. He is a freaking hypocrite regardless of who is in the wrong.
Good for Kanter. Harden and James should be dragged through the mud for this crap. If you play social justice warrior when it suits you financially, you are a fraud.
And yeah, I’m hard headed, but I’ll be darned if I don’t side with Hong Kong, AND BLM.