Official 2020 NBA Draft Thread

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Originally Posted by AusPel

It's funny, on RealGM they're getting a heap of praise

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I mean... We was doing that last year. Hayes and NAW looks like whiffs. So, lets be humble.

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Originally Posted by Taker597

Lewis & RJ could be a deadly combo.

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I like RJ alright but I wouldn't take him over Maxey or Tillman.

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Originally Posted by Pelicanidae

I like RJ alright but I wouldn't take him over Maxey or Tillman.

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Completely forgot Maxey was still there

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Originally Posted by Pelicanidae

I like RJ alright but I wouldn't take him over Maxey or Tillman.

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Completely agree. I was just thinking about RJ and Lewis as combo.

From RealGM

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Unread post#647 ? by baldur ? less than a minute ago

Detroit is the winner.
Saddiq bey
Isaiah Stewart
Killian Hayes

Probably couldn't be better than this.

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Every single post is saying Detroit killed it lol

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Originally Posted by Taker597

I mean... We was doing that last year. Hayes and NAW looks like whiffs. So, lets be humble.

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Hayes doesn't look like a whiff lol

You don't whiff on a pick if you draft a guy who needs time to develop physically, and he *somehow* takes time to develop. You aren't drafting a guy like Hayes for rookie production, you're drafting them for 3 or 4 years in where the weight is added to the frame and the experience gap is made up.

Miami is targeting Precious Achiuwa at No. 20, source tells ESPN.

— Adrian Wojnarowski (@wojespn) November 19, 2020

I have no idea what to think about this.

I feel like this is a good place for him, if they use him at the 5. If they try to put him at the 4 next to Bam, that's a mistake.

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Originally Posted by AusPel

From RealGM



Every single post is saying Detroit killed it lol

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What can I say? There's a reason I tell people not to trust highlight culture scouting.

Lewis gets no interview opportunity and Nash gets five minutes after not picking anybody for the team.

BIG MARKET TEAMS!!!

I'd be surprised if we pick someone as bad at 3pt shooting as Maxey. Maybe Vinson can fix him. Meh. We missed out on a lot of shooters.

Sixers should pick Maxey

So is Kira comparable to an Iverson lite?

Sorry, I haven't been paying attention at all this offseason.....

76ers with Maxey. Bummer, but there is a limit to the number of guards one can roster.

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Originally Posted by msusousaphone

I'd be surprised if we pick someone as bad at 3pt shooting as Maxey. Maybe Vinson can fix him. Meh. We missed out on a lot of shooters.

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Maxey is a much better shooting prospect than his raw college %age shows. His high level FT shooting, high touch and midrange efficiency, his shot versatility, and his pre-NBA sample were all much more encouraging. Raw college 3pt percentage is not actually even close to being the best indicator of shooting ability over time.

I'm not saying he's going to be an elite shooter or anything but I think he'll be at least 36% with no real issue.

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Originally Posted by ragincaucasian

So is Kira comparable to an Iverson lite?

Sorry, I haven't been paying attention at all this offseason.....

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Sort of?

Player comparisons are always bad. He's not the ballhandler that Iverson was, whatsoever, and he's not the dynamic off the dribble scorer either, but yeah he's very light and fast and projects well as a shooter.

Kira's a good bet to be a better defender than Iverson was though. I know Iverson racked up a lot of steals but he was no stopper, whereas Kira really hustles on defense all the time.

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Originally Posted by Pelicanidae

Maxey is a much better shooting prospect than his raw college %age shows. His high level FT shooting, high touch and midrange efficiency, his shot versatility, and his pre-NBA sample were all much more encouraging. Raw college 3pt percentage is not actually even close to being the best indicator of shooting ability over time.

I'm not saying he's going to be an elite shooter or anything but I think he'll be at least 36% with no real issue.

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With that percentage, Ball is a better fit at SG for us. But it's more his low release and streaky shooting......we can call it streaky at best.

Guess is Bane the T-Rex Time.

The Sixers are targeting Tyrese Maxey at No. 21, source tells ESPN.

— Adrian Wojnarowski (@wojespn) November 19, 2020

Yeah that's the riht move for them.

Tillman and Bane still on the board for 24.

Tyrese Maxey going here! Damn it.

I want RJ Hampton or Desmond Bane PLEASE!!

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Originally Posted by ragincaucasian

So is Kira comparable to an Iverson lite?

Sorry, I haven't been paying attention at all this offseason.....

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That is the kind of player nobody should ever be compared to, as they will be found wanting. At a certain point you end up calling Perry Jones Kevin Durant lite...

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Originally Posted by msusousaphone

With that percentage, Ball is a better fit at SG for us. But it's more his low release and streaky shooting......we can call it streaky at best.

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*shrug* He'll be fine. Every indicator other than raw 3pt% is there. Not gonna be elite, but he'll be fine.

The more I research Kira the more I like him in our system

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Originally Posted by HornetGuru

The more I research Kira the more I like him in our system

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He's good!

hoped we could have moved up for max

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Originally Posted by All Metro

hoped we could have moved up for haliburton

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same

Denver should pick someone like Hampton, maybe. Half-court rim pressure guy. Or Bane, for some team D and shooting.

Maxi is a Klutch guy. He would have left us

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Originally Posted by 13 - 3

Maxi is a Klutch guy. He would have left us

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Maxi Kleber?

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Originally Posted by Pelicanidae

He's good!

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Sweet, looks like he is very fast, Amazing at the break, can create his own shot, good 3pt shooter and FT shooter, quick defender. Only real weakness is strength and he’s not elite at creating for others but Lonzo will make up for that. I could actually seeing a double PG back court working with them and having them both start in the future.

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Originally Posted by HornetGuru

The more I research Kira the more I like him in our system

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same here

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Originally Posted by HornetGuru

Sweet, looks like he is very fast, Amazing at the break, can create his own shot, good 3pt shooter and FT shooter, quick defender. Only real weakness is strength and he’s not elite at creating for others but Lonzo will make up for that. I could actually seeing a double PG back court working with them and having them both start in the future.

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He's not a supernaturally good passer but he is perfectly fine at it, and he's better than Lonzo in the halfcourt because he actually pressures defenses.

Strength is an issue but he's so young for a sophomore, it's perfectly normal for guys in his position to need to add core strength, and that will improve his mediocre finishing.

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Originally Posted by Pelicanidae

He's not a supernaturally good passer but he is perfectly fine at it, and he's better than Lonzo in the halfcourt because he actually pressures defenses.

Strength is an issue but he's so young for a sophomore, it's perfectly normal for guys in his position to need to add core strength, and that will improve his mediocre finishing.

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Yay, another guard with mediocre finishing :(

Denver is targeting Zeke Nnaji at No. 22, source tells ESPN.

— Adrian Wojnarowski (@wojespn) November 19, 2020

Wow, that's a high pick for Nnaji!

Nnaji is good, I like him quite a bit but he's a huge ''if he shoots'' guy. Very mobile big, fairly smooth laterally, okay enough on defense. Quite soft. I had him in the second round, but if he does shoot he can be fine.

Here's my pick: Bolmaro. Pels do not want this many young players physically here, and he can ball.

I liked RJ Hampton at 13, so if we could get him at 24 that would be sick!!

Who's NY gonna whiff on?

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Originally Posted by AusPel

Yay, another guard with mediocre finishing :(

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Yeah but the difference is that Kira is several years younger than the others and still actually drives. Lonzo is 6'6 and strong with explosion but can't finish cause he's a coward and he's scared of driving and he can't shoot FTs.

Kira is 19 as a sophomore but he does drive a decent amount and he's an 80% FT shooter so with core strength additions it's easy to imagine him being a decent enough finisher, even if he's not great at it, and he attacks with his speed to create advantages.

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Originally Posted by Biasvasospasm

Here's my pick: Bolmaro. Pels do not want this many young players physically here, and he can ball.

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I'm more sceptical than some on Bolmaro, particularly offensively (I think his Defense is good) but at 24 I wouldn't be mad.

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Originally Posted by AusPel

Who's NY gonna whiff on?

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Everything, always.

Knicks draft Hampton or Riller you cowards.

Just talked to Florida State coach Leonard Hamilton on the phone. Asked him what he'd say to those who point out Patrick Williams didn't start games: "He finished them."

— K.C. Johnson (@KCJHoop) November 19, 2020

That's a really great quote from PatWill's ex-coach.

Kira was one of the holes in my draft research this year so I'm having a hard time getting excited. All I know is he's small and fast. Anyone particularly excited about him?

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Originally Posted by Biasvasospasm

That is the kind of player nobody should ever be compared to, as they will be found wanting. At a certain point you end up calling Perry Jones Kevin Durant lite...

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Nah, we call Brandon Ingram "Kevin Durant Lite".

The Knicks are targeting Leandro Bolmaro at No. 23, source tells ESPN. New York selected Obi Toppin at No. 8.

— Adrian Wojnarowski (@wojespn) November 19, 2020

THE KNICKS DID SOMETHING GOOD

Come on Bucks take the player with most upside here in RJ Hampton PLEASE!!

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Originally Posted by DaPelFromHell

Come on Bucks take the player with most upside here in RJ Hampton PLEASE!!

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You know we get to command it

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Originally Posted by Nola3

Kira was one of the holes in my draft research this year so I'm having a hard time getting excited. All I know is he's small and fast. Anyone particularly excited about him?

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I like him! He ran a successful, good SEC offense at 17 years old in his freshman year. Improved a lot as a shooter in his second year, shows pullup ability. Needs to add weight and core strength to improve his finishing, but he's willing to use his speed to pressure defenses. Again, needs to add strength, but a really promising defensive prospect who hustles hard, recovers well, and shows good instincts.

Damn I liked Bolmaro but if the Knicks drafted him he must suck.

NY Trading Bolmaro to Minnesota for 2 later picks.

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Originally Posted by Pelicanidae

Sort of?

Player comparisons are always bad. He's not the ballhandler that Iverson was, whatsoever, and he's not the dynamic off the dribble scorer either, but yeah he's very light and fast and projects well as a shooter.

Kira's a good bet to be a better defender than Iverson was though. I know Iverson racked up a lot of steals but he was no stopper, whereas Kira really hustles on defense all the time.

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Thanks for the answer.

I am excited to see him play.

Expecting weirdness here.