Truncated Offseason Thread

Free agent Jakob Poeltl is finalizing a three-year, near $27M deal to return to San Antonio, agents Mike Tellem, Aaron Mintz and Steven Heumann tell

Ummmm... Bledsoe market seems to be close to non existent. We maybe stuck with the bill on this.


Really got to hope FA whiffs will cause teams to be desperate to drive up interest.

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Ummmm... Bledsoe market seems to be close to non existent. We maybe stuck with the bill on this.


Really got to hope FA whiffs will cause teams to be desperate to drive up interest.

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Could be the case. Hill may be more moveable. Looks like we are going to sit out the initial round of bidding...

All those teams that locked up their roleplayers cheap last year got to be happy.

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Ummmm... Bledsoe market seems to be close to non existent. We maybe stuck with the bill on this.


Really got to hope FA whiffs will cause teams to be desperate to drive up interest.

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How do you know this

Free agent G Pat Connaughton has agreed to a two-year, $8.3M deal to return to the Milwaukee Bucks, agents Jeff Schwartz and Jordan Gertler of @excelsm_bball tell ESPN.

— Adrian Wojnarowski (@wojespn) November 21, 2020

Pretty slow in Pelican land. Standing on the post and staying out of the water.

Still a lot of center talent unsigned even though surprisingly a lot of centers were signed today.

Starters:
Ibaka (not coming here)
Marc Gasol (will championship chase)
Arron Baynes ( most likely signing)
Triston Thompson (possible)
Nerlens Noel (also a possibility, but I don’t think he is as good a defensive fit as Baynes or Thompson. I think Hayes can provide a lot of what Noel can.)

Reserve quality:
Boogie Cousins (simply because of injury)
Alex Len
Dwayne Dedman
Willie Cauley-Stein

Hoping for Baynes or Thompson.

Steven Adams on the way

New Orleans and Milwaukee are expanding the original Jrue Holiday trade to include more teams and players, including the routing of Steven Adams to the Pelicans, sources tell ESPN. Talks are moving toward a possible four-team trade.

— Adrian Wojnarowski (@wojespn) November 21, 2020

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Steven Adams on the way

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Pretty good servicible big man. I like it.

OKC is trading James Johnson to the Dallas Mavericks, sources tell ESPN.

— Adrian Wojnarowski (@wojespn) November 21, 2020

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Pretty good servicible big man. I like it.

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At 28 mil and clogs up the paint? No thanks.

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At 28 mil and clogs up the paint? No thanks.

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Dude he's on his last year. Its not like we're winning the ship this year. If we like him cool if we don't, he's out after this year.

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New Orleans and Milwaukee are expanding the original Jrue Holiday trade to include more teams and players, including the routing of Steven Adams to the Pelicans, sources tell ESPN. Talks are moving toward a possible four-team trade.

— Adrian Wojnarowski (@wojespn) November 21, 2020

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I'm bet that Bledsoe will be re-routed.

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Dude he's on his last year. Its not like we're winning the ship this year. If we like him cool if we don't, he's out after this year.

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That?s not the best argument for giving up a pick. Quite the opposite in fact. I can appreciate that we are giving ourselves financial flexibility for next year. But we damned well better use it or this is for naught.

As Rockets/Wizards talks on Russell Westbrook-for-John Wall stall, Wall has made it clear he wants trade out of Washington to happen, sources tell @TheAthleticNBA @Stadium.

— Shams Charania (@ShamsCharania) November 21, 2020

Still think Beal won't be on the block soon?

Steven Adams and Zion is a pretty intimidating combo.


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That?s not the best argument for giving up a pick. Quite the opposite in fact. I can appreciate that we are giving ourselves financial flexibility for next year. But we damned well better use it or this is for naught.

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Listen, we've never had draft capital like Griff has given us. We JUST got this 2023 Denver pick TWO days ago and now people are tweaking cause you ain't want to give up that pick. Bruh Griff has our longevity in his best interest. 2021 Free Agency is gonna be stacked and with his contract coming off the books, that could possibly be something big. I have no problem getting rid of a 10-15 ranged lottery pick from Denver. Its not like we gave up the house of picks we have.

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As Rockets/Wizards talks on Russell Westbrook-for-John Wall stall, Wall has made it clear he wants trade out of Washington to happen, sources tell @TheAthleticNBA @Stadium.

— Shams Charania (@ShamsCharania) November 21, 2020

Still think Beal won't be on the block soon?

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I don't think Wall out necessarily ignites the bomb

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That?s not the best argument for giving up a pick. Quite the opposite in fact. I can appreciate that we are giving ourselves financial flexibility for next year. But we damned well better use it or this is for naught.

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It's a lottery protected 2023 pick from Denver, whose core stars are all young and under contract. The odds are, that pick would be like #25 in 2023 or something. Trading #23 for Steven Adams is fine.

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In 5 hours from now, we'll sign a center. I could be totally wrong, but I could also be totally right, so lets go!!!

Didn't something last year, where when someone asked Griffin on twitter about FA, and then shortly after someone got signed(announced)? Could be wrong and had a weird dream or something.

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Roughly 5 hours before before the time of the Steven Adams announcement. Boom. lol

via GIPHY

I wonder how much Josh Jackson got from Detroit. I was hoping we would bring him in if it was like a 1 year $6 million dollar deal. He was the 4th overall pick in 2017. He could of been a decent backup to BI and allow Hart to play his more natural position of 2 guard. But that would of probably taken minutes away from NAW and I think he will be ready to contribute this year

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I wonder how much Josh Jackson got from Detroit. I was hoping we would bring him in if it was like a 1 year $6 million dollar deal. He was the 4th overall pick in 2017. He could of been a decent backup to BI and allow Hart to play his more natural position of 2 guard. But that would of probably taken minutes away from NAW and I think he will be ready to contribute this year

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He sucks and he's had a ridiculous number of off-court issues already. Zero interest in him, ever.

Free agent F Moe Harkless has agreed to a one-year, $3.6M deal with the Miami Heat, sources tell ESPN.

— Adrian Wojnarowski (@wojespn) November 21, 2020

Good pick up for Miami. Functional rotation wing for basically nothing.

We badly need another sf.. BI is our only legit sf on the team

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We badly need another sf.. BI is our only legit sf on the team

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Hart?


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Looking at the list of Free Agents still out there, I don't see too many names at SF left worth much.

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Hart?


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Hart is undersized at that position especially at defending the bigger and longer sf's in the league...

Free agent F Moe Harkless has agreed to a one-year, $3.6M deal with the Miami Heat, sources tell ESPN.

— Adrian Wojnarowski (@wojespn) November 21, 2020

We have a boatload of guards. We need a big SG/SF to guard the Kawhi and lebrons of the nba. We keep putting these undersized guards on these guys and we get demolished.

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We have a boatload of guards. We need a big SG/SF to guard the Kawhi and lebrons of the nba. We keep putting these undersized guards on these guys and we get demolished.

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The way I see it, we only really have one too many guards right now.

Bledsoe, Lonzo, Redick, Kira, NAW, Hart. That's 6 guys, and Hart actually plays more a hybrid wing/small SF role fairly well.

We all know what my solution is.

Free agent guard Kris Dunn has agreed to a two-year, $10M deal with the Atlanta Hawks, sources tell ESPN. Player option on the second year.

— Adrian Wojnarowski (@wojespn) November 21, 2020

This reminds me of the 2016 offseason when the cap jumped and even we overspent. Looks like the ticket might be to just sit tight and the market will come to us. Or we miss out on everybody and are left very unbalanced again this year. Either way it?s better than spending stupid money well have to attach a draft pick to in order to get rid of in a few years.

So what you guys think we'll do now?

I reckon we'll use the MLE (Crowder seems the likely) target.

Re-sign Jackson and Moore for vet mins.

How many roster spots does that leave? 3?

Maybe I'm missing some talent out there that's slightly better than the vet min but not anymore than that?

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So what you guys think we'll do now?

I reckon we'll use the MLE (Crowder seems the likely) target

Re-sign Jackson and Moore for vet mins.

How many roster spots does that leave? 3?

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Don't resign Jackson or Moore. We do not need 8 guards on the roster :hihi:

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Don't resign Jackson or Moore. We do not need 8 guards on the roster :hihi:

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We still need shooting though. Who do you want to add?

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We still need shooting though. Who do you want to add?

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Not sure. That doesn't mean having more than half the roster be guards is a good idea.

Kira can shoot. Redick can shoot. Ingram can shoot. Melli can shoot. Hart is an okay shooter, Lonzo is fine in certain contexts. I think Zion is going to be a better shooter than some say, and if we were to fill the wing role with, say, Crowder, he's generally a decent shooter too.

I would absolutely not resign Moore or Jackson. Sick of the Pelicans running 4 guard lineups under Gentry, now we want to force SVG to do it because the entire roster is 6'3?

Melo is still on the board....fire away.

If Avery Bradley could be had at a decent price he would be ideal with his defense. We were terrible on defense last year and shipped off our best defensive player.

C: Adams, Hayes
PF: Zion, Melli
SF: BI, Hart
SG: JJ, Bradley, NAW
PG: Lonzo, Bledsoe, Kira

His height isn?t ideal. Garrett Temple would of been a nice addition, but he?s gone. Malik Beasley would be sweet, but he has some legal troubles.

A few other names that could be had cheaper. We need shooting or defense on the wing. Both would be ideal lol.

Wayne Ellington
Michael Carter-Williams
Shaquille Harrison
E?twaun Moore
Bryn Forbes
Rondae Hollis-Jefferson
Glenn Robinson III
Torrey Craig
James Ennis III
Wes Iwundu
Jordan McRae
Michael Kidd-Gilchrist
Damyean Dotson

Don?t know if those guys all available though

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If Avery Bradley could be had at a decent price he would be ideal with his defense. We were terrible on defense last year and shipped off our best defensive player.

C: Adams, Hayes
PF: Zion, Melli
SF: BI, Hart
SG: JJ, Bradley, NAW
PG: Lonzo, Bledsoe, Kira

His height isn?t ideal. Garrett Temple would of been a nice addition, but he?s gone.

A few other names that could be had cheaper. We need shooting or defense on the wing. Both would be ideal lol

Michael Carter-Williams
Shaquille Harrison
E?twaun Moore
Bryn Forbes
Rondae Hollis-Jefferson
Glenn Robinson III
Torrey Craig
James Ennis III
Wes Iwundu

Don?t know if those guys all available though

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MCW and Ennis are off the board

Craig, yes please

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If Avery Bradley could be had at a decent price he would be ideal with his defense. We were terrible on defense last year and shipped off our best defensive player.

C: Adams, Hayes
PF: Zion, Melli
SF: BI, Hart
SG: JJ, Bradley, NAW
PG: Lonzo, Bledsoe, Kira

His height isn?t ideal. Garrett Temple would of been a nice addition, but he?s gone.

A few other names that could be had cheaper. We need shooting or defense on the wing. Both would be ideal lol

Michael Carter-Williams
Shaquille Harrison
E?twaun Moore
Bryn Forbes
Rondae Hollis-Jefferson
Glenn Robinson III
Torrey Craig
James Ennis III
Wes Iwundu

Don?t know if those guys all available though

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The only name I would be remotely interested in would be Glenn Robinson III. Ill say we're gonna need vet min big man hybrid for added insurance just in case someone goes out.

I'd offer Carmelo Anthony a one year deal.

Free agent Bobby Portis has agreed to a deal with the Milwaukee Bucks, sources tell @TheAthleticNBA @Stadium.

— Shams Charania (@ShamsCharania) November 21, 2020

If he can act right, this is a great get for the Bucks.

Damn Moe Harless signed a 1 year 3.6 million dollar deal?? We should of threw him $4 mil lol

Restricted free agent De’Anthony Melton has agreed to four-year, $35M deal with the Memphis Grizzlies, sources tell @TheAthleticNBA @Stadium.

— Shams Charania (@ShamsCharania) November 21, 2020

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MCW and Ennis are off the board

Craig, yes please

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That what’s I was thinking. Craig would help the D for sure

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Restricted free agent De?Anthony Melton has agreed to four-year, $35M deal with the Memphis Grizzlies, sources tell @TheAthleticNBA @Stadium.

— Shams Charania (@ShamsCharania) November 21, 2020

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Surprise

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If Avery Bradley could be had at a decent price he would be ideal with his defense. We were terrible on defense last year and shipped off our best defensive player.

C: Adams, Hayes
PF: Zion, Melli
SF: BI, Hart
SG: JJ, Bradley, NAW
PG: Lonzo, Bledsoe, Kira

His height isn?t ideal. Garrett Temple would of been a nice addition, but he?s gone. Malik Beasley would be sweet, but he has some legal troubles.

A few other names that could be had cheaper. We need shooting or defense on the wing. Both would be ideal lol.

Wayne Ellington
Michael Carter-Williams
Shaquille Harrison
E?twaun Moore
Bryn Forbes
Rondae Hollis-Jefferson
Glenn Robinson III
Torrey Craig
James Ennis III
Wes Iwundu
Jordan McRae
Michael Kidd-Gilchrist
Damyean Dotson

Don?t know if those guys all available though

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I actually would love to take a shot at Iwundu. Was a big fan of his coming out of school and his defensive numbers show a lot of promise. He's also been stuck in Orlando behind a ton of bigs/wings which was not an ideal situation to grow. Wouldn't mind throwing him a 2/$7-8.

Also, unrelated, is it just me or are all your apostrophes question marks?

Free agent guard DJ Augustin has agreed to a three-year, $21M deal with Milwaukee, source tells ESPN.

— Adrian Wojnarowski (@wojespn) November 21, 2020

Bucks have essentially turned Wes Matthews, Eric Bledsoe, and George Hill into DJ Augustin, Bobby Portis, and Jrue Holiday.

I love Jrue, we all know that, and I think he's an upgrade on Bledsoe, but Portis is a huge downgrade from Matthews and Augustine is a slight step fown from Hill.

Then they missed hard on Bogdan. And Robin Lopez left.