Playoffs Thread

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Originally Posted by PELICANSFAN

I would not want him anywhere near this locker room with our young players.

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Hence, a very short leash and an incentive-laden contract to jettison him quickly. If healthy, no one can deny his value on the court.

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Originally Posted by PELICANSFAN

He was given the chance to test the FA market even after he dragged out the negotiations. He went into FA with that offer and another one that was more than twice what GS offered. He thought he was worth more and found out he was not.

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This is true. He got offered $40m, turned it down, told the media that he never got an offer at all, and ended up signing for the minimum.

I'd love for someone to be classless enough to offer me $40m, especially with the knowledge that I wouldn't even have to play for a year, since everyone knew Boogie was gonna have to rehab.

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Originally Posted by Pelicanidae

This is true. He got offered $40m, turned it down, told the media that he never got an offer at all, and ended up signing for the minimum.

I'd love for someone to be classless enough to offer me $40m, especially with the knowledge that I wouldn't even have to play for a year, since everyone knew Boogie was gonna have to rehab.

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That’s misleading. It was in the context of free agency that he never got an offer during free agency. Which he didn't. He never received an official offer.

He got an offer in April through Demps. Boogie rejected wanting to wait to free agency. Deal was pulled off the table.

Then, Free agency came.

"It was a lot of,**We might be interested. We don’t know if it’s the right fit.**All of a sudden, I wasn’t hearing from the Pelicans. I wasn’t hearing from no one. That was tough. We in a nasty business, at times. I don’t even say that in a good or bad way. It’s just no place to get too emotional. The facts are still the same. I was expecting to be back in New Orleans, and I was proud of what we were starting there."


https://twitter.com/WillGuillory/sta...521304578?s=19

Defending an organization run by fired buffons or drama queen is nonsensical. They were both part of the problem. This problem of how Pelicans did business was a microsm of everything wrong in AD's tenure.

I guess some people just want to be in denial of AD asking for a trade was always inevitable and not avoidable. Our ******** poor front office and management drove him out more than AD becoming the diva that he is. No klutch sports, Lebron, or any of that nonsense.. It was just AD and front office.

The Boogie stuff was just a small part of it. Granted, I think we are much better off.

If Boogie had never gotten injured diving a loose ball on a FT. We would probably be consistent playoff contenders with a little big 3 in Jrue, AD, and Boogie.

It's an interesting what if scenario. We failed AD badly, but ehhhh. Screw him. We got Zion now. We just need to really focus on being a consistent playoff contender during his 2nd contract. Just keep building and acquiring assets if possible.

That’s all I really got for that discussion down memoriy lane.

Nobody is defending the Demps leadership :hihi: Everyone knows it was bad, bad contracts were given out, bad trades were made here and there, roster construction sucked, etc.

It's not ''Defending an organization run by fired buffons or drama queens'' to point out that Boogie screwed Boogie as much, or more than, anyone else did.

Remember, he was telling us that turning down $40m was chess not checkers. Turns out he was actually playing snap.

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Originally Posted by Pelicanidae

Nobody is defending the Demps leadership :hihi: Everyone knows it was bad, bad contracts were given out, bad trades were made here and there, roster construction sucked, etc.

It's not ''Defending an organization run by fired buffons or drama queens'' to point out that Boogie screwed Boogie as much, or more than, anyone else did.

Remember, he was telling us that turning down $40m was chess not checkers. Turns out he was actually playing snap.

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Exactly! I was a Boogie fan and wanted him to return, but he ********ed himself over.

Demps offering a deal in April is pretty much offering a deal in FA, so I'm not sure why you are going to such lengths to say that we didn't make him an offer. We made him his best offer by far and he turned it down, because somehow he was playing chess.

And, if we had a healthy Boogie this entire time, along with Jrue and AD, our view of Demps as GM would be different (which is a separate discussion)

Dae

https://mobile.twitter.com/malika_an...52641098092546

There are many roads, but all probably leads to 0-1 lol

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Originally Posted by Taker597

Dae

https://mobile.twitter.com/malika_an...52641098092546

There are many roads, but all probably leads to 0-1 lol

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Not sure I follow.

Yahoo Sources: Reporting with @VinceGoodwill, Milwaukee Bucks star Giannis Antetokounmpo to win Defensive Player of the Year award for the 2019-20 season. https://t.co/7At8k5uvU8

— Chris Haynes (@ChrisBHaynes) August 25, 2020

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Yahoo Sources: Reporting with @VinceGoodwill, Milwaukee Bucks star Giannis Antetokounmpo to win Defensive Player of the Year award for the 2019-20 season. https://t.co/7At8k5uvU8

— Chris Haynes (@ChrisBHaynes) August 25, 2020

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Won DPOY and MVP before AD. Wow. Didn't see that coming

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Originally Posted by Taker597

Won DPOY and MVP before AD. Wow. Didn't see that coming

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He deserves it. AD took his foot off the gas and started looking for easy ways out. Giannis didn't.

That said, I still think AD deserved to win DPOY in Gobert's first win year.

I love how there's an NBA coach who is just clearly coked out of his mind about 57% of the time and nobody cares

Lillard is out for game 5. And that is all she wrote.

Gotta say that I'm very very disappointed with the Nuggets this playoff series.

One of my favourite teams to watch in the regular season, Jokic is one of my top 10 favourite players, and they've just totally dropped the ball.

Yes, Will Barton and Gary Harris are out. No, that doesn't excuse it.

Jokic has been fine, but he hasn't been as great as he has been in playoffs past. Murray has had big scoring games but the other games have been flat out poor. MPJ can't defend anything with two feet and two hands. Malone has been totally incapable or totally unwilling to address the Jazz's offensive schemes which end up with MPJ constantly switched onto disadvantageous player. He's been constant hole in the defense and the Jazz have attacked it every time he's been on the court and the Nuggets have just done nothing to respond.

Stan Van Gundy is roasting MPJ's defense now

''Those last 5 points are on his defense''

''Mitchell split him twice on that one possession''

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Originally Posted by Pelicanidae

Stan Van Gundy is roasting MPJ's defense now

''Those last 5 points are on his defense''

''Mitchell split him twice on that one possession''

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He's pretty much put his defense on flames. Won't shut up about it. :hihi:

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Originally Posted by luckyman

He's pretty much put his defense on flames. Won't shut up about it. :hihi:

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In SVG's defense, MPJ really is legitimately awful on D.

Jamal Murray Games 2 and 3? Garbage

Jamal Murray games 1, 4 and 5?

Greatest scorer of all time

Jamal Murray totals in Games 2 and 3 in this series:

26pts, 8 rebounds, 10 assists on 11/29 shooting (37.9%) and 3/10 from 3 (30%)
(13pts, 4rebounds, 5 assists per game)

Jamal Murray totals in Games 1, 4, 5:

128 points, 24 rebounds, 24 assists on 48/78 shooting (61.5%) and 18/32 from 3 (56.2%)
(42.6pts, 8 rebounds, 8 assists per game)

Mavericks putting themselves in a huge hole with these turnovers. 7 of them in the first quarter alone leading to 16 points off turnovers. Explains a huge chunk of the disparity.

FROM ELIAS: Jamal Murray is the first player to record back-to-back 40-point outings in the playoffs without committing a turnover since 1977, when individual turnovers were first tracked. pic.twitter.com/pNXj8nQdEt

— ESPN Stats & Info (@ESPNStatsInfo) August 26, 2020

I guess the Pandemic P Curve got flatten.

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Originally Posted by Taker597

I guess the Pandemic P Curve got flatten.

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Yeah and he'll hit social media with it later

''If you weren't with me when I was hungry, don't come to me with praise when I'm eatin [insert emojis]''

Then he'll go 3-17 in game 6

Marcus Morris with an incredibly blatant flagrant tbh, ridiculous

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Originally Posted by Pelicanidae

Yeah and he'll hit social media with it later

''If you weren't with me when I was hungry, don't come to me with praise when I'm eatin [insert emojis]''

Then he'll go 3-17 in game 6

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Off topic.

How much longer can MyKnee Hurting live off that 2016 title clout?

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Originally Posted by Taker597

Off topic.

How much longer can MyKnee Hurting live off that 2016 title clout?

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For as long as people still pretend that that 3 pointer he hit was a gamewinner or something

The Clippers are dirty.

Also, Kane Fitzgerald could get fired into the sun and not even his family would miss him.

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Originally Posted by Pelicanidae

Marcus Morris with an incredibly blatant flagrant tbh, ridiculous

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I hope he slips on a banana covered in an ice cube.

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Originally Posted by UNO Gracias

I hope he slips on a banana covered in an ice cube.

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That must be a big ice cube

What a filthy play pic.twitter.com/PgX9ij70YM

— sam esfandiari (@samesfandiari) August 26, 2020

Kawhis hands are so absurd

Bucks seriously looking like they're boycotting the game. Do not blame them.

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Originally Posted by Pelicanidae

Bucks seriously looking like they're boycotting the game. Do not blame them.

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The league turns heaven and Earth for them to cash in on playoffs, but they turn their backs on the league...their owners...and their fans? Reciprocate their lack of appreciation....Kick 'em out the tourney!!

The Milwaukee Bucks have decided to boycott Game 5, source tells ESPN.

— Adrian Wojnarowski (@wojespn) August 26, 2020

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Originally Posted by As I See It

The league turns heaven and Earth for them to cash in on playoffs, but they turn their backs on the league...their owners...and their fans? Reciprocate their lack of appreciation....Kick 'em out the tourney!!

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Don't be ridiculous.

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— Donovan Mitchell (@spidadmitchell) August 26, 2020

Clock is at 0:00 —- Orlando Magic and Milwaukee Bucks are not on the court. pic.twitter.com/qAjoXDWCom

— Taylor Rooks (@TaylorRooks) August 26, 2020

As opposed to being upset b/c your entertainment has been removed...ask yourself. How did we get to the point where players felt like the only way to be heard and heard taken seriously was to stop playing? ��#SpeaksVolumes https://t.co/o4bGhXaFvC

— Antonio Daniels (@adaniels33) August 26, 2020

Bucks players are in locker room attempting to reach the attorney general of Wisconsin, Josh Kaul, sources tell @TheAthleticNBA @Stadium. Magic players are leaving the arena soon -- not accepting the Bucks‘ forfeit.

— Shams Charania (@ShamsCharania) August 26, 2020

Rockets-OKC players are planning to boycott Game 5 of their series, sources tell @TheAthleticNBA @Stadium.

— Shams Charania (@ShamsCharania) August 26, 2020

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Rockets-OKC players are planning to boycott Game 5 of their series, sources tell @TheAthleticNBA @Stadium.

— Shams Charania (@ShamsCharania) August 26, 2020

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Decision made. Thunder and Rockets are boycotting Game 5, sources said. https://t.co/SCNAjsQYea

— Shams Charania (@ShamsCharania) August 26, 2020

SALUTE ✊�� @Bucks

— 13am Adebayo�� (@Bam1of1) August 26, 2020

WE DEMAND CHANGE! WE DEMAND JUSTICE!

— Grant Williams (@Grant2Will) August 26, 2020

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I'm working 12 hour shifts in a covid hospital and had like patient 100+ died in the span of 3 weeks in July. All I do is work and go home. It's tough everywhere. Can't really hate. Been battling depression since June when the bodies started piling up on my conscious

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Originally Posted by Pelicanidae

Rockets-OKC players are planning to boycott Game 5 of their series, sources tell @TheAthleticNBA @Stadium.

— Shams Charania (@ShamsCharania) August 26, 2020

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I want to make a Chris Paul showing up taking a forfeit joke, but nahhhh. They right on this.

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I'm working 12 hour shifts in a covid hospital and had like patient 100+ died in the span of 3 weeks in July. All I do is work and go home. It's tough everywhere. Can't really hate. Been battling depression since June when the bodies started piling up on my conscious

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Mental health issues are serious. If that's legitimately his struggle then I'm glad he's seeking help for it.

Los Angeles Lakers and Portland Trail Blazers are leaning toward boycotting Game 5 tonight, league sources tell Yahoo Sports.

— Chris Haynes (@ChrisBHaynes) August 26, 2020

Mostly good although I do just want to say

This isn't a boycott. A boycott is what a consumer does.

This is workers withholding their labour from their employer. That's a strike, pal

The Lakers and Trail Blazers are sitting Game 5 of series, sources tell @TheAthleticNBA @Stadium.

All three NBA games will not be played as players sit in wake of Jacob Blake shooting.

— Shams Charania (@ShamsCharania) August 26, 2020

NBA players have called for a meeting tonight in Orlando to determine next steps, sources tell @TheAthleticNBA @Stadium.

— Shams Charania (@ShamsCharania) August 26, 2020

Here is what I don't like about this...there seems to be no specific ask or outcome. General statements "stop police brutality" won't do.

If these players are going to use their platform, the most effective way is to be specific and tangible.

Get rid of qualified immunity for police, defund police departments, require X% of the force to live in the area they serve, etc, etc. All specific things worth championing.

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Originally Posted by luckyman

Here is what I don't like about this...there seems to be no specific ask or outcome. General statements "stop police brutality" won't do.

If these players are going to use their platform, the most effective way is to be specific and tangible.

Get rid of qualified immunity for police, defund police departments, require X% of the force to live in the area they serve, etc, etc. All specific things worth championing.

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Players meeting in the bubble tonight. Was told by a player that the season is in jeopardy.

— John Gambadoro (@Gambo987) August 26, 2020

They're still meeting.

I will believe that the season is over when the players leaves the bubble. Until then, it’s a statement move.

Agree I'm not sure what the ask is in connection with the boycott and it seems unlikely it's anything that can be enacted in a short term, even if everyone agreed to it, which they probably won't. If it's about standing up and being heard, I understand and support that effort.

There is a larger issue though that everyone has to to grapple with. Police shootings of unarmed suspects hasn't changed much in the past five years. Stats show there are about 10 million arrests annually in America (roughly). Of those arrests about 1,000 end up in a shooting by police. Of those shootings about 50-60 involve unarmed suspects and less than half of those shootings involve African Americans.

One unjustified killing is too many but the idea that you are going to eliminate police shooting unarmed suspects is utopian. If society is going to stop each time it happens, we will be in a constant state of chaos. I support shifting some of the roles of police on to other government actors, such as social workers, and reforming training on the use of deadly force and conflict escalation. But I also think you have to make decisions that correspond with data not just on emotion or outrage from incidents that are outliers when placed in larger context.