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I do think the hard cap would bring more balance but they also need to get rid of the max contracts and let the elite players get their true value which will also make it harder for teams to bunch up stars.


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Looking at the west we have a slim or none chance with the current roster to make the playoffs.
We have a big 2.5 with Davis Cousins Holiday we have no bench weak Head Coach.
If this team starts out the gate below .500 in the first 20 games call it a day.
I know you guys are Potential winners out there but realistically we are what are record says the last 2 years.
The blame of this situation is square on the Owner Mr. Benson.
I have been a season ticket holder since 2010. I have watched the thin crowds over and over.
I see more fans for the opposite team at some games than the home team.
Spurs Cavs Warriors when in town they have more jerseys in the stands than The Pelicans. It's sad but Mr. Benson and his wife sit in their box seats and see this. They hear the loud Boos when Alvin Gentry is announced every game so it's not a surprise.
I am not sure what the future holds on this roster but it don't look like anything close to a playoff ball club. Potential don't win games. Other teams in the West are locked and reloaded.

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Originally Posted by Buckwheat

Looking at the west we have a slim or none chance with the current roster to make the playoffs.
We have a big 2.5 with Davis Cousins Holiday we have no bench weak Head Coach.
If this team starts out the gate below .500 in the first 20 games call it a day.
I know you guys are Potential winners out there but realistically we are what are record says the last 2 years.
The blame of this situation is square on the Owner Mr. Benson.
I have been a season ticket holder since 2010. I have watched the thin crowds over and over.
I see more fans for the opposite team at some games than the home team.
Spurs Cavs Warriors when in town they have more jerseys in the stands than The Pelicans. It's sad but Mr. Benson and his wife sit in their box seats and see this. They hear the loud Boos when Alvin Gentry is announced every game so it's not a surprise.
I am not sure what the future holds on this roster but it don't look like anything close to a playoff ball club. Potential don't win games. Other teams in the West are locked and reloaded.

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You must be a blast at parties

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Originally Posted by PELICANSFAN

I wish the NBA would do away with the luxury tax and just hard cap the teams. It is ridiculous to say you want competitiveness and then allow the bigger market teams with deep pockets to just "buy" themselves into competitiveness.

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YES. but good luck with that.

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Originally Posted by Pelicans78

I do think the hard cap would bring more balance but they also need to get rid of the max contracts and let the elite players get their true value which will also make it harder for teams to bunch up stars.


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Agree. With a hard cap, there really would not be a need for a max contract (maybe just max term since they are guaranteed).

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Originally Posted by Buckwheat

Looking at the west we have a slim or none chance with the current roster to make the playoffs.
We have a big 2.5 with Davis Cousins Holiday we have no bench weak Head Coach.
If this team starts out the gate below .500 in the first 20 games call it a day.
I know you guys are Potential winners out there but realistically we are what are record says the last 2 years.
The blame of this situation is square on the Owner Mr. Benson.
I have been a season ticket holder since 2010. I have watched the thin crowds over and over.
I see more fans for the opposite team at some games than the home team.
Spurs Cavs Warriors when in town they have more jerseys in the stands than The Pelicans. It's sad but Mr. Benson and his wife sit in their box seats and see this. They hear the loud Boos when Alvin Gentry is announced every game so it's not a surprise.
I am not sure what the future holds on this roster but it don't look like anything close to a playoff ball club. Potential don't win games. Other teams in the West are locked and reloaded.

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Reading more than one of your posts is like following a comedian on tour. Same repackaged ideas and emphasis no matter the different surroundings.

To be fair though, this is the same roster as last year, and last year we were fighting to stay relevant, this year we will be battling for the 7th or 8th seed. This year will be very interesting, and with this being a make or break year for Demps and Gentry, look for them to attack like a dog that has been locked in a cage.

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Originally Posted by UNO Gracias

To be fair though, this is the same roster as last year, and last year we were fighting to stay relevant, this year we will be battling for the 7th or 8th seed. This year will be very interesting, and with this being a make or break year for Demps and Gentry, look for them to attack like a dog that has been locked in a cage.

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It has literally been 1+ day of the new league year. I don't think the Pelicans will be the same team/roster as last year. Give it time and let's assess where the team is in a few weeks.


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Big moves coming soon?

"Dell is busting his butt right now. 20-22 hour days. He is committed to a top 4 seed kind of team"

And no, my source is not Dell

— Pelicans Podcaster (@SilverAndMac) July 2, 2017

He is trying hard. I would expect something today or tomorrow

— Pelicans Podcaster (@SilverAndMac) July 2, 2017

Source: Free agent forward Serge Ibaka has reached deal on three-year, $65M contract to stay with the Toronto... https://t.co/ATpQCWXQ36

— Adrian Wojnarowski (@wojespn) July 2, 2017

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Originally Posted by MG3n2K9

Source: Free agent forward Serge Ibaka has reached deal on three-year, $65M contract to stay with the Toronto... https://t.co/ATpQCWXQ36

— Adrian Wojnarowski (@wojespn) July 2, 2017

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Holy Crap! I'd take Jrue's contract over that pile of Tripe . What an overpay! I guess Lowry headed out the door!

Sources: Minnesota Timberwolves and Taj Gibson have agreed to a 2-year, $28 million deal.

— Michael Scotto (@MikeAScotto) July 2, 2017

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Originally Posted by Buckwheat

Looking at the west we have a slim or none chance with the current roster to make the playoffs.
We have a big 2.5 with Davis Cousins Holiday we have no bench weak Head Coach.
If this team starts out the gate below .500 in the first 20 games call it a day.
I know you guys are Potential winners out there but realistically we are what are record says the last 2 years.
The blame of this situation is square on the Owner Mr. Benson.
I have been a season ticket holder since 2010. I have watched the thin crowds over and over.
I see more fans for the opposite team at some games than the home team.
Spurs Cavs Warriors when in town they have more jerseys in the stands than The Pelicans. It's sad but Mr. Benson and his wife sit in their box seats and see this. They hear the loud Boos when Alvin Gentry is announced every game so it's not a surprise.
I am not sure what the future holds on this roster but it don't look like anything close to a playoff ball club. Potential don't win games. Other teams in the West are locked and reloaded.

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I agree. I'm actually pretty surprised people think this current roster can compete for anything. We can barely compete for a playoff spot, let alone a ring. Roll into next year as is and we'll be competing in the lottery while Cousins walks away and Davis demands a trade.

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Originally Posted by MG3n2K9

Sources: Minnesota Timberwolves and Taj Gibson have agreed to a 2-year, $28 million deal.

— Michael Scotto (@MikeAScotto) July 2, 2017

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Another overpay!!

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Originally Posted by Tinman

Another overpay!!

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Actually that's a killer fit for Minny, only two years and he knows Thibs system. They are going to be a problem. I bet Taj starts next to Towns.

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Originally Posted by nolaslim213

Big moves coming soon?

"Dell is busting his butt right now. 20-22 hour days. He is committed to a top 4 seed kind of team"

And no, my source is not Dell

— Pelicans Podcaster (@SilverAndMac) July 2, 2017

He is trying hard. I would expect something today or tomorrow

— Pelicans Podcaster (@SilverAndMac) July 2, 2017

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He's going to have to something better than a MLE signing to get to top 4. He's going to have to make a big trade.

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Originally Posted by Topdawg26

He's going to have to something better than a MLE signing to get to top 4. He's going to have to make a big trade.

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Must be going after Bledsoe god I hope so

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Originally Posted by tthier2

Must be going after Bledsoe god I hope so

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Yeah me too! Would suck if it's Brandon Knight or Reggie Jackson.

Atleast we have a timeline today or tomorrow

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Originally Posted by Spaniard

Actually that's a killer fit for Minny, only two years and he knows Thibs system. They are going to be a problem. I bet Taj starts next to Towns.

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Who's going to shoot ! They have ZERO threats from 3pt range. No outside shooting at all !

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Originally Posted by bahmamamba

Atleast we have a timeline today or tomorrow

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Hopefully lol

Can confirm the Wizards are signing guard Jodie Meeks for two-years, $7 million. They're using their bi-annual exception to do so.

— Tim Bontemps (@TimBontemps) July 2, 2017

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Originally Posted by UNO Gracias

To be fair though, this is the same roster as last year, and last year we were fighting to stay relevant, this year we will be battling for the 7th or 8th seed. This year will be very interesting, and with this being a make or break year for Demps and Gentry, look for them to attack like a dog that has been locked in a cage.

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Uno I don't remember you being this negative

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Originally Posted by MG3n2K9

Can confirm the Wizards are signing guard Jodie Meeks for two-years, $7 million. They're using their bi-annual exception to do so.

— Tim Bontemps (@TimBontemps) July 2, 2017

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That's a good deal for Meeks. Wish we could get CJ for that.

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Originally Posted by rezburna

I agree. I'm actually pretty surprised people think this current roster can compete for anything. We can barely compete for a playoff spot, let alone a ring. Roll into next year as is and we'll be competing in the lottery while Cousins walks away and Davis demands a trade.

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can we get to the playoffs first then see where we are at in talent to be able to work toward contending for a ring?....

Pelicans Podcaster @SilverAndMac

"Dell is busting his butt right now. 20-22 hour days. He is committed to a top 4 seed kind of team"

And no, my source is not Dell

WHAT !!
Dell you have been here in New Orleans for 7 Years
Now you are working !!!!
You just gave away the farm yesterday to Holiday
Whatcha gonna do Today Resign Q Tip to a Extension !!!
Top 4 Seed Dell with what? Your current Roster ??
Guys this is why we are 60+ wins in 2 years.

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Originally Posted by Topdawg26

Yeah me too! Would suck if it's Brandon Knight or Reggie Jackson.

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Reggie Jackson would actually be a pretty good fit if he could stay healthy.

He is a really, really good pick and roll point and would flourish next to AD.

Get Bledsoe!!! Do whatever it takes to get Boogie's Kentucky buddies and keep him happy so he resigns!!!

I agree with you that Moore shouldn't be starting but Hill is a good starter in this league as a fifth option... I bet you would say Zaza, Tristan Thompson, JR Smith aren't starters either... if you surround him with great talent which we have in AD DMV and Jrue and a solid shooter, he could be everything you need in a glue guy... He plays very good defense, hustled and does the grimmy work... He knows his role and is a team first guy... i also think he is only worth 6-8mil but we are stuck with his salary...Both should not be starting tho!!! Give me Hill

if he's thinking top 4 seed then it has to be a pretty significant move right?

What is the realistic price tag for Bled?

Sources: Rudy Gay is leaving OKC visit today, sides still searching for financial path to deal. Sign and trade with Kings remains difficult.

— Adrian Wojnarowski (@wojespn) July 2, 2017

Gay is still part of the Clippers focus, too. Clippers plan to meet with Danilo Gallinari and Gay over next two days. https://t.co/1FuIErBlVh

— Adrian Wojnarowski (@wojespn) July 2, 2017

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Originally Posted by Buckwheat

Pelicans Podcaster @SilverAndMac

"Dell is busting his butt right now. 20-22 hour days. He is committed to a top 4 seed kind of team"

And no, my source is not Dell

WHAT !!
Dell you have been here in New Orleans for 7 Years
Now you are working !!!!
You just gave away the farm yesterday to Holiday
Whatcha gonna do Today Resign Q Tip to a Extension !!!
Top 4 Seed Dell with what? Your current Roster ??
Guys this is why we are 60+ wins in 2 years.

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Signing Jrue doesn't give up the farm..lol. They'll be able to re-sign Boogie next summer. Who's Q Tip ? Being ignorant isn't a excuse. Read more than what one person writes about the Pelicans.

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Originally Posted by rezburna

I agree. I'm actually pretty surprised people think this current roster can compete for anything. We can barely compete for a playoff spot, let alone a ring. Roll into next year as is and we'll be competing in the lottery while Cousins walks away and Davis demands a trade.

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It's unfortunate the people running are ruining this ball club.
This fake theory that Cousins is going to resign here in New Orleans provided we show stability and win a round in the playoffs.
I think the downside was the Holiday deal. Resigning him was saying we want change but we don't change anything.
Same failed solutions don't resolve tomorrow's problems.
I will be optimistic and let's see what Dell has up his sleeve. Maybe he signs Hayward or makes a blockbuster trade

Hadn't seen this posted:
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Originally Posted by N.O.Bronco

Hadn't seen this posted:
http://i.imgur.com/7Z9pahD.png?1

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Collison would be a great backup PG for us. I'll take him over Lawson

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Originally Posted by AIP504

I agree with you that Moore shouldn't be starting but Hill is a good starter in this league as a fifth option... I bet you would say Zaza, Tristan Thompson, JR Smith aren't starters either... if you surround him with great talent which we have in AD DMV and Jrue and a solid shooter, he could be everything you need in a glue guy... He plays very good defense, hustled and does the grimmy work... He knows his role and is a team first guy... i also think he is only worth 6-8mil but we are stuck with his salary...Both should not be starting tho!!! Give me Hill

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this is what I think too

Danilo Gallinari to meet with Clippers this evening in L.A. Nuggets still not out of picture, though they’re all in on Millsap.

— David Aldridge (@daldridgetnt) July 2, 2017

Aip504
I happen to like Moore. He has good hustle off the dribble and likes to run the break.
I think Hill needs to put the ball on the floor and go to the rack more.

Moore is a high percentage 3pt shooter and a plus defender. He is a great fit as the starting SG. Jrue, Moore, Hill, AD, Cousins should be the Pelicans starting lineup. What we need to do is fill out the rest of the roster with good players.

I would rather CJ Miles, Ben McLemore or Swaggy P... I agree that Hill should handle the ball a little more as he showed a nice drive when he handled the rock in a point forward role here and there... I really liked the combination of Moore and Crawford off the bench tho...

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Originally Posted by hornetsrebirth

Moore is a high percentage 3pt shooter and a plus defender. He is a great fit as the starting SG. Jrue, Moore, Hill, AD, Cousins should be the Pelicans starting lineup. What we need to do is fill out the rest of the roster with good players.

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We need to clear the slate of bad dead end deals.
Asik, Q Tip needs to go. Lick your wounds.
Injuries happen to all 30 teams in the league.
We don't want to have 1 injury ruin the season.
Having a solid bench is key next man Up.
Keeping dead end players on the roster holds up opportunities for the younger players to get minutes

My only knock on Moore as a starter is that he is limited... not ideal size, lack first step... To me, his ceiling is not much more than the player he is now...

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Originally Posted by KevinDavis1022

Collison would be a great backup PG for us. I'll take him over Lawson

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I still feel his ability to be a consistent catch and shooter(47% catch and shoot player last season) is very valuable in a system like ours with Finch and built around Davis/Cousins, lots of cutting and drawing defenders away from shooters.


You need guys at the guard spots that can make defenses pay to make the whole thing work.

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Originally Posted by AIP504

My only knock on Moore as a starter is that he is limited... not ideal size, lack first step... To me, his ceiling is not much more than the player he is now...

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This is true. I still like him, however, as the player he currently is at is a solid 3 and D guy.

If Moore can just maintain about 41%+ from 3, on about an average 3 attempts per game, he'd be ideal as a starting 2. Kinda like Gordon was during the playoff run. Otherwise he's ideal off the bench.

I'd really like CJ Miles in that Danny Green role either way.

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Originally Posted by Buckwheat

We need to clear the slate of bad dead end deals.
Asik, Q Tip needs to go. Lick your wounds.
Injuries happen to all 30 teams in the league.
We don't want to have 1 injury ruin the season.
Having a solid bench is key next man Up.
Keeping dead end players on the roster holds up opportunities for the younger players to get minutes

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Asik is total deadweight, the Pelicans can and should use the stretch provision to dump his horrible contract. It was a bad contract from the beginning but could be justified because we needed someone to play the 5 and free up AD. With the addition of Cousins there is no purpose for Asik remaining on the roster.

Q-pon could be a good role player if he ever regains form from his injury. That might not ever happen, but the Pelicans are probably stuck carrying that contract and hoping he can come back.

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Originally Posted by 6warddude

can we get to the playoffs first then see where we are at in talent to be able to work toward contending for a ring?....

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THIS! People need to lower their expectations. We're not the Boston Celtics.

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Originally Posted by hornetsrebirth

Asik is total deadweight, the Pelicans can and should use the stretch provision to dump his horrible contract. It was a bad contract from the beginning but could be justified because we needed someone to play the 5 and free up AD. With the addition of Cousins there is no purpose for Asik remaining on the roster.

Q-pon could be a good role player if he ever regains form from his injury. That might not ever happen, but the Pelicans are probably stuck carrying that contract and hoping he can come back.

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I guess my question is why keep players on the roster that don't get playing time and have 0 future?
Both of these guys are for nothing.
Terrence Jones was a baller still don't get that move? Dante is needed back he is a good player that played hard on defense

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Originally Posted by HoustonPelicans

Uno I don't remember you being this negative

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I don't know what is negative about my post.