2013 Playoffs Discussion Thread

Am i the only one who appreciate Leonards braids? Its 2013 and the guy is just living in 2003.

Curry or Rose at this point forward?

Nothing involving Curry surprises me at this point.

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Originally Posted by kclaboy504

Who is shocked that the warriors are beating the spurs like this at home?? I'm not but I know so many spurs fans that claimed they would sleep walk thru the warriors lol.

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Not surprised. GSW was due to have a game like this in the series. It just happened tonight. What I want to see is, how this young team responds when the Spurs makes their adjustments and the Warriors begins to struggle. That will be more telling about that team than tonight's game.

Im not just bc the warriors are so explosive on offense. They can shoot better than Dick Cheney.

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Originally Posted by kclaboy504

Value counts in ranking the better player IMO. But I'm more looking at who is the better baller on the court. Rose is a better scorer than both those guys and it's not close. His defense isn't shabby either. Wade and Bryant are about to retire for Christ sakes. Lmao

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Changing terms.

The only thing funny is your dancing.

Wade is playing, Rose is not.

How funny is that?

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Originally Posted by kclaboy504

Value counts in ranking the better player IMO. But I'm more looking at who is the better baller on the court. Rose is a better scorer than both those guys and it's not close. His defense isn't shabby either. Wade and Bryant are about to retire for Christ sakes. Lmao

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Than Kobe? Than Wade ? You're kidding right now. Rose has never had a season scoring as much as Kobe did at the age of 34. Wade scored 1 less ppg this year as (same ppg last year) as the #2 scoring option and shot .521 from the field. Sure, Rose is more Explosive than both of them. More fun to watch than both of them, but better scorer? Please.

Watching Curry has me wanting a scorer for this tem more and more. In tired of our team being a boring slow paced team with limited offensive guards and wings. We need to bring back some freaking excitement, that will put butts in seats. Dont believe me? Look what Lebron did to this city last time he was here. It was literally a takeover.

Screw this low tempo half court crap. Vasquez ur out. Gordon bye. Lets get faster, more offensive, and athletic.

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Originally Posted by Silverfoxx

Watching Curry has me wanting a scorer for this tem more and more. In tired of our team being a boring slow paced team with limited offensive guards and wings. We need to bring back some freaking excitement, that will put butts in seats. Dont believe me? Look what Lebron did to this city last time he was here. It was literally a takeover.

Screw this low tempo half court crap. Vasquez ur out. Gordon bye. Lets get faster, more offensive, and athletic.

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CJ Calhoun?

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Originally Posted by 42

You are choosing to fail to acknowledge the data presented to you as adequate, fail to present counter points, and change the terms of the original statement about a rational team considering a trade.

Feel free to allow your mere stance to rule your evening, but so far you are just stamping your foot and going "no."

I think you should work harder to make your point or allow that such a trade for this player on this team with this weird delay in his return would be considered for trade by a rational team to see if an upgraded package could be had for a team in win now mode: Clippers.

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I already told u I agree with the probing a trade. Im on board with u there. I'm just not agreeing with your players u rank ahead of rose in the nba as the better players that's all. My top 5 are (in no order) James Durant Paul rose Westbrook...with harden,melo,m.gasol,howard as next 5. These are all opinions. There is no right or wrong here.

Bogut looks like Astro Boy... The man

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Originally Posted by 42

Changing terms.

The only thing funny is your dancing.

Wade is playing, Rose is not.

How funny is that?

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Not changing terms. This was a response to ballsohard who was talking value. This discussion was never about who is playing right now and who is not. That's obvious I thought.

Jefferson really knows how to suck when his team needs him.

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Originally Posted by BallSoHard

Than Kobe? Than Wade ? You're kidding right now. Rose has never had a season scoring as much as Kobe did at the age of 34. Wade scored 1 less ppg this year as (same ppg last year) as the #2 scoring option and shot .521 from the field. Sure, Rose is more Explosive than both of them. More fun to watch than both of them, but better scorer? Please.

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So wade and Kobe are better players than they were 5 years ago. Right I got ya. Rose is a better scorer than both those guys right now. Back in the day?? No..Kobe and wade are in decline dude.

Poor Richard Jefferson. He gets in the game at 104-88. It's now 104-101.

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Originally Posted by kclaboy504

So wade and Kobe are better players than they were 5 years ago. Right I got ya.

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Words in mouth. Who said that? I said they had some of their better years in terms of stats this year. Not that they were better or worse. You used "this stage in their career" as a defense, and i'm telling you that their production shows they're not dropping off; so in my mind that argument is null.

GSW just doesn't know how to close a game.

Wow the spurs are about to try n steal this one. Let's see how the warriors respond to this.

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Originally Posted by BallSoHard

Words in mouth. Who said that? I said they had some of their better years in terms of stats this year. Not that they were better or worse. You used "this stage in their career" as a defense, and i'm telling you that their production shows they're not dropping off; so in my mind that argument is null.

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Saying they had 1 of their better years this year is implying they are not in decline. I think that's false. They are clearly in decline. Wade and Kobe are not no where close to what they used to be. Clearly in decline.

My boy is clutch!!! ****ing right!

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Originally Posted by Nola Hornet

GSW just doesn't know how to close a game.

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Yea they better learn how to do that real quick or they will find themselves gon fishin.

Jupiter's ****

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Originally Posted by kclaboy504

Saying they had 1 of their better years this year is implying they are not in decline. I think that's false. They are clearly in decline.

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What's your proof? Certainly not numbers.They've adjusted their games to what they can and can't do on the court. The "eye test"? how do you know bias doesn't come in on that? Injuries? That's not a good point to bring up.

so we had Jack, Landry and Bellenelli? How did we not make the playoffs? New Orleans franchise should get a thank you card from Golden State and Chicago...

Curry was terrible on that final possession.

Wow!!! Spurs are so good!!! Warriors are soooo young lol

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Originally Posted by BallSoHard

What's your proof? Certainly not numbers.They've adjusted their games to what they can and can't do on the court. The "eye test"? how do you know bias doesn't come in on that? Injuries? That's not a good point to bring up.

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Ok your right man. Kobe is just as good as he was in 2003 and wade is just as good as he was in 2006-07...your right. They aren't in decline. Lol

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Originally Posted by Nola Hornet

Curry was terrible on that final possession.

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Tuuuuurible

O great... Another hangover. :idoh:

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Originally Posted by kclaboy504

Ok your right man. Kobe is just as good as he was in 2003 and wade is just as good as he was in 2006-07...your right. They aren't in decline. Lol

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Petulance. Don't do that. You've been given good answers. Give back.

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Originally Posted by BallSoHard

What's your proof? Certainly not numbers.They've adjusted their games to what they can and can't do on the court. The "eye test"? how do you know bias doesn't come in on that? Injuries? That's not a good point to bring up.

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Riley and kupchak both would trade wade and Kobe for rose right now without seeing him play another game. Fact. It's as simple as that.

Steph playing hero ball... had a dude on the wing WIDE open and he refused to pass to him. SMDH

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Originally Posted by kclaboy504

Ok your right man. Kobe is just as good as he was in 2003 and wade is just as good as he was in 2006-07...your right. They aren't in decline. Lol

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"I mean, let's talk about the obvious," Wade said. "Guys get older. That's obvious. Yes, I've gotten older. Yes, my game has changed. But let's talk production. I'm a productive player. My numbers show it. I buy into the efficiency numbers – more than I should and it drives me crazy that I buy into it. I look around the league and see guys shooting 41 percent and they're getting patted on the back. I'm shooting 52 percent and I'm on the decline?"

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http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2013/0...n_3100973.html


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Originally Posted by 42

Petulance. Don't do that. You've been given good answers. Give back.

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I have been watching basketball since 89-90 faithfully. I watched mj decline. I'm watching the game right now. I don't need to go dig up stats on both these guys to prove a point that 99.9% of the public and the nba would agree with me on. To say Kobe and wade aren't in the declining years of their careers is just ridiculous.

The Warriors inexperience is showing.

Damnit GS... Just win the game and stop teasing me.

Spurs doing it good. What a game

I love Leonard's game.

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Originally Posted by BallSoHard

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2013/0...n_3100973.html


http://img.bleacherreport.net/img/ar...650&h=432&q=85

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Show me where I said they aren't effective anymore?? I said they aren't the same players they used to be. It's a fact. Their athleticism has lots to do with it. Kobe is plotting retirement dude. Why would he plot retirement is he isn't on the decline?? This is stupid. I'm done now. No matter how many charts u research will not change the fact that the guys are in the declining stage of their careers.

I'm watching the game on TNT and there's a woman who screams waay too loud -.-

Curry's shot is as much of a gift as it is a curse. He relies on it too much at times.

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Originally Posted by kclaboy504

I have been watching basketball since 89-90 faithfully. I watched mj decline. I'm watching the game right now. I don't need to go dig up stats on both these guys to prove a point that 99.9% of the public and the nba would agree with me on. To say Kobe and wade aren't in the declining years of their careers is just ridiculous.

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Their athleticism is fading, not their game. Their getting smarter and playing smarter. When is a man truly at his apex? When he's the best looking and in physical and sexual prime, at his wisest state or somewhere in-between? Medicine as well as playing knowing how to take care of themselves better allow these players greatest years to be extended past the "norm" that we're used to (the Jordan Years). Kobe is the first of the batch.

This game is amazing. Jack is a baller

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Originally Posted by kclaboy504

Show me where I said they aren't effective anymore?? I said they aren't the same players they used to be. It's a fact. Their athleticism has lots to do with it. Kobe is plotting retirement dude. Why would he plot retirement is he isn't on the decline?? This is stupid. I'm done now. No matter how many charts u research will not change the fact that the guys are in the declining stage of their careers.

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Ok. Kick and scream that you're right; but don't back it up. Seems fair.

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Originally Posted by kclaboy504

Show me where I said they aren't effective anymore?? I said they aren't the same players they used to be. It's a fact. Their athleticism has lots to do with it. Kobe is plotting retirement dude. Why would he plot retirement is he isn't on the decline?? This is stupid. I'm done now. No matter how many charts u research will not change the fact that the guys are in the declining stage of their careers.

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I would say if you change your wording you'd maybe be correct. "Decline" would show a decrease of talent, stats, etc. That isn't the case. Kobe had one of if not the best most productive year of his career. That's not decline sir, very very far from it. Now if you said they are old and their bodies won't allow them to do this much longer I would agree. But "decline", no, not at all. I'm speaking strictly of Kobe, no one else.

Kobe has adapted with age. He doesnt do the things he used to be capable of doing, but hes perfected the basic aspects of scoring.

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Originally Posted by DarthVegito

I would say if you change your wording you'd maybe be correct. "Decline" would show a decrease of talent, stats, etc. That isn't the case. Kobe had one of if not the best most productive year of his career. That's not decline sir, very very far from it. Now if you said they are old and their bodies won't allow them to do this much longer I would agree. But "decline", no, not at all. I'm speaking strictly of Kobe, no one else.

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What I first said was they aren't the players they used to be. They aren't. They have hit their peak years. Have they not? If u have already peaked then it's downhill from there. That is called the declining years of your career.

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Originally Posted by BallSoHard

Their athleticism is fading, not their game. Their getting smarter and playing smarter. When is a man truly at his apex? When he's the best looking and in physical and sexual prime, at his wisest state or somewhere in-between? Medicine as well as playing knowing how to take care of themselves better allow these players greatest years to be extended past the "norm" that we're used to (the Jordan Years). Kobe is the first of the batch.

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Very true. Good point. Jordan didn't have access to Regenokine procedures in Germany...lol New technology=longer, more productive careers.

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Originally Posted by DarthVegito

I would say if you change your wording you'd maybe be correct. "Decline" would show a decrease of talent, stats, etc. That isn't the case. Kobe had one of if not the best most productive year of his career. That's not decline sir, very very far from it. Now if you said they are old and their bodies won't allow them to do this much longer I would agree. But "decline", no, not at all. I'm speaking strictly of Kobe, no one else.

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Yep pretty much what i've said. :hihi:

I thought that went in... Almost lost it