Who should become the first person to be drafted to the pelicans?

Porter, McLemore, Burke. Lots of likes in this draft. If we finish as we have been doing so far or even if we win a lil' more. Gonna come out with a solid player.

I almost want to win a few more games so Porter and Shabazz are off the board and Burke is sitting there for us. lol

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Originally Posted by Silverfoxx

Vasquez and Gordon to phx for their pick.

Draft Otto Porter and Trey Burke.


I can dream right?

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Oooh! I could be on board for some of that fun all over the court at high speeds action.

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Originally Posted by UNO Gracias

Oooh! I could be on board for some of that fun all over the court at high speeds action.

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Porter, Rivers,Davis,Burke, Anderson nucleus is toooooooooooo swwweeet!! *NWO music in the back*

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Originally Posted by Silverfoxx

Porter, Rivers,Davis,Burke, Anderson nucleus is toooooooooooo swwweeet!! *NWO music in the back*

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So sweet to a point where if they all panned out, we couldn't nearly afford all 5 of them. We'd be lucky to afford 3 of them.

I feel like drafting a rookie, is taking steps back, unless they can provide a Lillard type impact in their rookie year. Rebuilding effort or not, someone is gonna lose their job over this if we keep taking 19 year olds that need to develop.

Well I'd assume Burke would probably at the very least split minutes under Vasquez for his rookie year.

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Originally Posted by Purple Haze

Well I'd assume Burke would probably at the very least split minutes under Vasquez for his rookie year.

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While I love Burke, doesn't this hurt the Austin Rivers project? And if they'd be moving Rivers to the 2, wouldn't a backcourt of Rivers and Burke be incredibly tiny?

If the rookies come in and give a Darren Collison impact their rookie year, that would be a great pick. DC did a solid job, all due to having more than one year in college basketball. Seeing as how Porter, Burk, Smart, and Oladipo all have been in the college game for 2+ years, they should drop from their college production, but not enough to be detriment to the team.

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Originally Posted by iNolaNightmare

While I love Burke, doesn't this hurt the Austin Rivers project? And if they'd be moving Rivers to the 2, wouldn't a backcourt of Rivers and Burke be incredibly tiny?

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I'm not a fan of passing up a player because he may hurt a fringe NBA starter. I've seen Austin Rivers flashes, but they don't scream starter to me. More like 6th or 7th man off the bench type production.

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Originally Posted by Inner_GI

I'm not a fan of passing up a player because he may hurt a fringe NBA starter. I've seen Austin Rivers flashes, but they don't scream starter to me. More like 6th or 7th man off the bench type production.

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And this is where I disagree. I think Rivers can be a franchise player and game changer

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Originally Posted by iNolaNightmare

And this is where I disagree. I think Rivers can be a franchise player and game changer

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Okay. I'll just agree to disagree now, because I'm seriously shocked franchise player and game changer were used to describe Rivers.

Potentially of course. To each his own, I guess.

We have greivis and austin at point but we are stuck with no one at small forward, Aminu is a free agent, right now our small forward is Darius miller, if Otto porter is on the board he will undoubtedly be our pick, we aren't drafting a pg, sorry guys, this is coming from a Burke fan, now if we packaged greivis and Xavier for Wilson chandler then I could see us drafting someone like Marcus smart incase gordon gets traded since we have no SG depth

I am taking Burke over Smart. Put me in the minority here but I rather have CP3 than DWill.

TRADE RIVERS OR GORDON AND SAY HELLO TO THE FUTURE
Victor Oladipo
Surreal shooting %
http://espn.go.com/mens-college-bask...victor-oladipo

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Strengths: Oladipo is an explosive athlete with great leaping ability … Has nice size at about 6’5, 215 lbs, and great length and a good build ... Fantastic first step and moves well laterally … A very tough and gritty player who fights for everything … Excellent rebounder for a guard averaging over 5 per game last season … Absolutely relentless on defense and is versatile enough to guard multiple positions … Not one to be outworked on either end of the court … One of the best finishers in the country around the rim due to his athleticism and body control … Moves well without the ball and doesn’t need to have plays drawn up for him to be effective … Hard worker off the court and improved his free throw percentage by 14% this past season ...

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WOW.

Oladipo is a freak just wish he was 2 inches taller so he could be our SF idk where he fits with GV gordon and rivers

I foam at the mouth at the prospect of having a Rivers, Gordon, Porter, Anderson, and Davis nucleus to build around.

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Originally Posted by PelsFan2313

I foam at the mouth at the prospect of having a Rivers, Gordon, Porter, Anderson, and Davis nucleus to build around.

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:love::lovey::heartth::happy2::evilgrin::ezbill::P eja:

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Originally Posted by Silverfoxx

Vasquez and Gordon to phx for their pick.

Draft Otto Porter and Trey Burke.


I can dream right?

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Can we even trade Gordon to PHX? I've heard conflicting things about what is legal when trading EJ now.

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Originally Posted by da ThRONe

Can we even trade Gordon to PHX? I've heard conflicting things about what is legal when trading EJ now.

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Gordon can be traded to anyone after the 1 year mark of signing his new deal. During the first year of the deal he had veto power on any trade, and couldn't be traded to PHX.

Next season, he can be traded anywhere without worry.

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Originally Posted by Inner_GI

Gordon can be traded to anyone after the 1 year mark of signing his new deal. During the first year of the deal he had veto power on any trade, and couldn't be traded to PHX.

Next season, he can be traded anywhere without worry.

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Ok because early on I was hearing he couldn't be traded to PHX for the life of that deal we matched. The NBA and all it's unnecessary rules and guidelines.

I wouldnt count Gordon or Vasquez as part of the nucleus, but I am glad that they are here in the meantime.

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Originally Posted by da ThRONe

Ok because early on I was hearing he couldn't be traded to PHX for the life of that deal we matched. The NBA and all it's unnecessary rules and guidelines.

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Yeah misinformation was certainly going around.

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Originally Posted by da ThRONe

Ok because early on I was hearing he couldn't be traded to PHX for the life of that deal we matched. The NBA and all it's unnecessary rules and guidelines.

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Yea, I was probably the main spreader of that information. :idoh:

42 posted something with links to sources that confirms Gordon is eligible to be traded to any team, without veto, after the 1st year of the deal.

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Originally Posted by iNolaNightmare

And this is where I disagree. I think Rivers can be a franchise player and game changer

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I don't know what in the world you've seen to give you that opinion. He's improved, yes but that's quite a statement.

As for your other comment, I agree with Inner GI. I'm in the school of thought that you draft the BPA in the NBA regardless of position and figure it out later. Rivers is certainly not anything worth banking on hard enough to pass on a guy that I have very high in Burke. In your train of thought, do you pass on Smart and McLemore because we have Gordon on contract?

Now if we get Oladipo/Porter/McLemore I will certainly not be crying. ;)

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Originally Posted by Inner_GI

Yea, I was probably the main spreader of that information. :idoh:

42 posted something with links to sources that confirms Gordon is eligible to be traded to any team, without veto, after the 1st year of the deal.

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Yep, July he's good to be traded to anyone without any say in it.

Porter has also shown an NBA level of cageyness. When he drove for that slick reverse layup, midway through he pass faked to the corner which completely froze the defender who might've come helped cut him off. That's a point guard move. That's something Rondo or CP3 would do in the middle of a drive.

I enjoyed the play where he came out of nowhere and dunked off that rebound. Nobody was boxing out, or following the ball and he just flew right in.

He has good instincts, and his comparisons to Aminu couldn't be more wrong.

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Originally Posted by Purple Haze

I don't know what in the world you've seen to give you that opinion. He's improved, yes but that's quite a statement.

As for your other comment, I agree with Inner GI. I'm in the school of thought that you draft the BPA in the NBA regardless of position and figure it out later. Rivers is certainly not anything worth banking on hard enough to pass on a guy that I have very high in Burke. In your train of thought, do you pass on Smart and McLemore because we have Gordon on contract?

Now if we get Oladipo/Porter/McLemore I will certainly not be crying. ;)

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If I would have told you in 2010 that Jason Smith could one day be an outstanding sixth man, you'd probably call me silly. Rivers is an incredibly hard worker and has all the talent to be a game changer. A starter. And by franchise player, I mean a part of a big 3 of some sort composed of him, Davis, and ..?

That's the shrooms talking man.

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Originally Posted by iNolaNightmare

If I would have told you in 2010 that Jason Smith could one day be an outstanding sixth man, you'd probably call me silly. Rivers is an incredibly hard worker and has all the talent to be a game changer. A starter. And by franchise player, I mean a part of a big 3 of some sort composed of him, Davis, and ..?

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I agree. Idk why fools *yes fools* jump to conclusion for any player from the rookie season. Does Billups, Ellis, and Crawford ring a bell? Just let this kid grow and stop judging so quickly.

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Originally Posted by Silverfoxx

I agree. Idk why fools *yes fools* jump to conclusion for any player from the rookie season. Does Billups, Ellis, and Crawford ring a bell? Just let this kid grow and stop judging so quickly.

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No one is jumping to conclusions. None of those players listed are Franchise changers.

Austin Rivers has real potential as a 6th or 7th man off the bench. He may start for some teams down to road like most backups do (i.e vasquez), but I don't see him, Davis, and someone else being a big 3 on the Boston level. Davis is the only player on this roster that could be considered a franchise piece.

Agree to disagree.

Any ways, I want Oladipo or Porter. I don't have a close third.

For those of you curious about Shabazz's game, this vid is a great watch. It shows a lot of the good, but along with some of the bad in his game (stiffness, lack of overall athletic high flying abilty):



He does have some guts, doesn't mind taking the big shot (as is seen at the end of the vid).

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Originally Posted by iNolaNightmare

Agree to disagree.

Any ways, I want Oladipo or Porter. I don't have a close third.

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same here

re: InnerGI (whom I normally agree with BTW)

I disagree- to an extent. These guys are so young they can grow almost exponentially. He has looked like a disaster at times, but also a lot of improvement. I know others feel the same that he can get better because he has shown it. He also (from the common perspective) has a drive like nobody else. Let's look at it this way- His defense. Still far from elite, but he was supposed to be weak at defense. Look how incredibly far that has come. I think his offense can make similar jumps in the next 2-3 years. He's also a much better passer than any of us gave him credit for. He has instinct. I think he is still timid, but I see the potential. He definitely has vision- how much, I'm not sure, but he has something that I didn't think he had as far as that aspect. Now, will any of this potential pan out and how much? Nobody knows. But I have confidence. I think he at least has the potential to be a top 7 or better PG. I know that sounds crazy, but I see that type of potential. Rose-colored glasses perhaps. It's going to take time and he may never reach that. But if he were a stock, he'd be a great buy right now in my opinion. I wouldn't pass over the PG's in the draft if I really bought into them, but I think he has that potential. We're going to need a good three guard rotation anyway.

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Originally Posted by iNolaNightmare

Agree to disagree.

Any ways, I want Oladipo or Porter. I don't have a close third.

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Marcus Smart?

Maybe. I like Smart, haven't seem enough of him yet, unfortunately.

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Originally Posted by Purple Haze

For those of you curious about Shabazz's game, this vid is a great watch. It shows a lot of the good, but along with some of the bad in his game (stiffness, lack of overall athletic high flying abilty):



He does have some guts, doesn't mind taking the big shot (as is seen at the end of the vid).

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Looks a lot like Wilson chandler but with a post game

If we took Shabazz, would you play him at the 2 or 3?

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Originally Posted by donato

If we took Shabazz, would you play him at the 2 or 3?

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3. If we want a 2 I think Oladipo, Mclemore and Smart are the guys to be had.

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Originally Posted by donato

If we took Shabazz, would you play him at the 2 or 3?

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We would play him at the 3 unless we traded gordon for a SF

If we traded gordon for derozan and big v we could put shabazz at the 2 and derozan at the 3

Would anyone be against trading gordon for parsons and asik and drafting smart or oladipo, the rockets want gordon.
GV rivers
Smart or oladipo mason
Parsons aminu
Davis ryno
Asik lopez

Or what about gordon and lopez for Batum and Meyers Leonard and draft smart or oladipo

Or gordon for Derek Williams and saved and sign pek and draft BPA

Or gordon for Harrison Barnes and fetus Ezeli then draft smart or oladipo

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Originally Posted by HornetGuru

Or what about gordon and lopez for Batum and Meyers Leonard and draft smart or oladipo

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Why would Portland do that? I would trade Gordon and Lopez yesterday for Batum, much less Leonard. That just doesn't make any sense.

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Originally Posted by donato

Why would Portland do that? I would trade Gordon and Lopez yesterday for Batum, much less Leonard. That just doesn't make any sense.

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Batum is just a shooter and defender, he can't create for himself, lillard and gordon would be deadly, I wouldn't trade gordon for Batum straight up, gordon is better

Lillard gordon and Aldridge would be insane