25th February - New Orleans Pelicans @ Los Angeles Lakers - 25-32

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Originally Posted by sterlr

Ditto. Gentry needs to be fired just for that unforgivable strategy.

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Should have been fired in the offseason. Dude is awful. Stealing a paycheck.

ATTENTION EVERYONE! WE ARE NOT DEAD YET QUIT YOUR FREAKING CRYING ESPECIALLY 13.3 AND SPACEGHOST!

Dude was getting ripped all night...how many points did that turn into for the Lakers and take from us? He needs to bulk up more.

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Originally Posted by Pelicanidae

Oh well.

Bad game from Jrue, bad game from Favors, bad game from Hart, bad game from Redick, bad game as a playmaker for Ingram, Zion's least efficient game since Milwaukee, Melli scared to shoot half the time, bad decision making from Lonzo for the entire second half.

Single digit loss on the road.

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Overall Ingram played well.. Zion will be fine as well, considering who he was facing in the paint I like what I saw.

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Originally Posted by Nichols

Aside from turnovers Ingram actually had a good game.. Nice try though.

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I mostly agree actually.

There's stuff to criticise about this game from him, for sure. Not sure why he took multiple pullup threes early in the clock when he sucks at them, for example. Missed about 4 passes to Zion that would have been clear and easy buckets where Zion was matched up against guys like Avery Bradley and Alex Caruso in the low post with no help available, opting for worse shots.

But his shot making was good overall, and his team D was actually a little better than usual even if still not fantastic.

If you're going to blame any individual for this game, it's not really Ingram.

The only weakness of this team is the coach. Nothing else.

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Originally Posted by Nichols

Overall Ingram played well.. Zion will be fine as well, considering who he was facing in the paint I like what I saw.

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See my above comment for Ingram response, but yeah I agree, Zion will be fine. Frankly at least 4 of his misses should have been called fouls anyway.

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Originally Posted by Fedupfan

Should have been fired in the offseason. Dude is awful. Stealing a paycheck.

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Yep but we have a few on here that still defend him.

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Originally Posted by Lonzo4MVP

ATTENTION EVERYONE! WE ARE NOT DEAD YET QUIT YOUR FREAKING CRYING ESPECIALLY 13.3 AND SPACEGHOST!

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That’s just silly. My username is shorter than calling me spaceghost.

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Originally Posted by sterlr

Dude was getting ripped all night...how many possible points did that turn into for the Lakers?

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Ingram had a good game.. not perfect though. Trying to push a "he had a bad game" narrative is just bogus.

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Originally Posted by Pelicanidae

See my above comment for Ingram response, but yeah I agree, Zion will be fine. Frankly at least 4 of his misses should have been called fouls anyway.

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I’d like to see him shoot the midrange.

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Originally Posted by Taker597

That’s just silly. My username is shorter than calling me spaceghost.

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Shut up Spaceghost, nobody wants to hear that

BI was great tonight. Not as great as Lebron, but was the second best player in the game tonight. For Zion, it feels ridiculous to say he wasn't good when he gets 27 points on 18 shots, but he can be better. He will help close the gap between these teams by working on his right hand, tightening his handle, and improving his conditioning, defense, and FT shooting.

We just don't have a guy who can check LeBron. It gets easier if Zion gets in that area as the "big wing defender".

Lebron was so great tonight. He can still play near the GOAT level and he did tonight.

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Originally Posted by Fedupfan

The only weakness of this team is the coach. Nothing else.

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No, COACHING, experience and lack of size at the 3.

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Originally Posted by 13 - 3

Yep but we have a few on here that still defend him.

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He cost this game with dumb subs and lineups.

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Originally Posted by Pelicanidae

Shut up Spaceghost, nobody wants to hear that

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Ugh, okay Hulk Pelican

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Originally Posted by Fedupfan

I’d like to see him shoot the midrange.

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He did shoot the midrange :hihi: a bunch. Always has. He took 6 midrange shots tonight, which was basically a third of his shot attempts.

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Originally Posted by Taker597

Ugh, okay Hulk Pelican

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Uh, it's not a pelican, it's a cockatiel. Get real.

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Originally Posted by Nichols

Ingram had a good game.. not perfect though. Trying to push a "he had a bad game" narrative is just bogus.

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Didn't say he had a bad game just he needs not turn the ball over. 7 turnovers = 14 - 21 pts lost. Subtract that from his output of 34 or add that to the game pts total... take your pick.

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Originally Posted by Pelicanidae

I mostly agree actually.

There's stuff to criticise about this game from him, for sure. Not sure why he took multiple pullup threes early in the clock when he sucks at them, for example. Missed about 4 passes to Zion that would have been clear and easy buckets where Zion was matched up against guys like Avery Bradley and Alex Caruso in the low post with no help available, opting for worse shots.

But his shot making was good overall, and his team D was actually a little better than usual even if still not fantastic.

If you're going to blame any individual for this game, it's not really Ingram.

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:thumbup:

I don't like the pull-up three's either.. but there's only a few players I'm okay with taking those kind of shots..

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Originally Posted by Pelicanidae

He did shoot the midrange :hihi: a bunch. Always has. He took 6 midrange shots tonight, which was basically a third of his shot attempts.

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Talking Zion

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Originally Posted by Fedupfan

He cost this game with dumb subs and lineups.

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Yep , Can you imagine if this was a drinking game.

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Originally Posted by Pelicanidae

Uh, it's not a pelican, it's a cockatiel. Get real.

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Lmao... The resolution makes it extremely hard to make out. Lol.

Mystery Solved.

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Originally Posted by sterlr

Didn't say he had a bad game just he needs not turn the ball over. 7 turnovers = 14 - 21 pts lost. Subtract that from his output of 34.

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K, gotcha.. I also hate the turnovers.. His passing needs to be more accurate. Coaches should work on that with him, I doubt they will though.

Zion for a nineteen yr old is magnificent. The older guys on the team could take a lesson from him during games.

Let's all think about what Zion is able to do on the court against top notch interior defense while he's still not in game shape.. While he's still just a rookie.. Encouraging, in spite of a not so perfect performance.

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Originally Posted by sterlr

Didn't say he had a bad game just he needs not turn the ball over. 7 turnovers = 14 - 21 pts lost. Subtract that from his output of 34.

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Did all of his 7 turnovers equate to points for LA?

The Pels get atleast 6-8 turnovers a game from passing the ball without having a clue if the person is going to be looking. That’s what freelancing does to a player like Zo.

LOOK! It’s a bird.... it’s a plane.....

Nope... it’s Just Jrue sucking again in a big game with 11pts and 4 TO.

ON 5 OF 19 SHOOTING!!!!

Should of traded him when we had the chance!!

The fact that people here continue to defend him when it’s the same story over and over is plain sad!

Am I the only one who thinks that Frank Jackson should be getting playing time?

When are we getting a like button on this forum?

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Originally Posted by AUSSIE_PELICAN

Did all of his 7 turnovers equate to points for LA?

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Don't know but momentum comes into play if you look at it that way. That's when they made their run to go ahead for good...off of a turnover and we never recovered

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Originally Posted by Fedupfan

The Pels get atleast 6-8 turnovers a game from passing the ball without having a clue if the person is going to be looking. That’s what freelancing does to a player like Zo.

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New coach thread has been bumped

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Originally Posted by As I See It

Am I the only one who thinks that Frank Jackson should be getting playing time?

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Nope. He should play all day over Moore and sometimes over JJ. Frank is a much better on ball defender. I think he would have been good against Caruso.

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Originally Posted by HartOfaPelican

LOOK! It’s a bird.... it’s a plane.....

Nope... it’s Just Jrue sucking again in a big game with 11pts and 4 TO.

ON 5 OF 19 SHOOTING!!!!

Should of traded him when we had the chance!!

The fact that people here continue to defend him when it’s the same story over and over is plain sad!

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Chris Paul was never on the table. The point of a making moves is to get BETTER. The main reason to defend Jrue is because we have no other better options. Which isn't sad. It's practical.

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Originally Posted by AUSSIE_PELICAN

Did all of his 7 turnovers equate to points for LA?

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Let me check

Edit: No

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Originally Posted by As I See It

Am I the only one who thinks that Frank Jackson should be getting playing time?

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Yes?

He is statistically one of the worst players in the NBA in plus-minus and impact metrics. He is occasionally okay but mostly a losing player at this point.

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Originally Posted by Fedupfan

Nope. He should play all day over Moore and sometimes over JJ. Frank is a much better on ball defender. I think he would have been good against Caruso.

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I can almost guarantee you that Danny Green would not have been five of nine from 3.

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Originally Posted by As I See It

Am I the only one who thinks that Frank Jackson should be getting playing time?

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I thought Frank and Jax should have gotten minutes over Okafor and JJ (who was cold)

If Jax became deadly from 3, he'd always have a case to be on the court. Ugh I wish we could morph Melli and Jax into one person haha

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Originally Posted by HartOfaPelican

LOOK! It’s a bird.... it’s a plane.....

Nope... it’s Just Jrue sucking again in a big game with 11pts and 4 TO.

ON 5 OF 19 SHOOTING!!!!

Should of traded him when we had the chance!!

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When are we going to start acknowledging this pattern? Oh i know. Never. Because he has his hands on the ball way more times than he should and gets advanced statistics due to usage.

If i use the slot machine more times than the other guy than i am not less dumb if i lose because i had more tries and therefore decreased my odds of winning statistically.


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Originally Posted by Eman5805

Chris Paul was never on the table. The point of a making moves is to get BETTER. The main reason to defend Jrue is because we have no other better options. Which isn't sad. It's practical.

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I wouldn’t of wanted Paul in the first place.

We’re not ready to win this season. I would of taken a young player and a draft pick for Jrue. I don’t think the Pels ever shopped him seriously... which will prove to be a mistake and missed opportunity l.

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Originally Posted by akhan786

I thought Frank and Jax should have gotten minutes over Okafor and JJ (who was cold)

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JJ had nothing whatsoever to offer tonight. The Lakers know that all he can do is shoot so they hounded him and then abused him on the other end.

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Originally Posted by akhan786

I thought Frank and Jax should have gotten minutes over Okafor and JJ (who was cold)

If Jax became deadly from 3, he'd always have a case to be on the court. Ugh I wish we could morph Melli and Jax into one person haha

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JAX would have been red meat tonight for the Lakers. There is no one on that team he can guard.

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Originally Posted by Sleeper

When are we going to start acknowledging this pattern? Oh i know. Never. Because he has his hands on the ball way more times than he should and gets advanced statistics due to usage.

If i use the slot machine more times than the other guy than i am not less dumb if i lose because i had more tries and therefore decreased my odds of winning statistically.


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The pattern is in plain sight. He killed two runs tonight all by himself. People hold on to past memories of Jrue.

The only way he would be of value to us at this point is if he were a clutch player/closer. Both of which he is def not! Which is exactly why we should of traded him. It will be BI and Zions job to close in the future.

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Originally Posted by Pelicanidae

Let me check

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Don't bother.
I didn't watch the game, but IMO this team needs a 3/4 who can guard the larger SF's.
I know its hard to guard Lebron, but as bad as Cunningham was he did a decent job on Lebron and the bigger/physical SF's

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Originally Posted by AUSSIE_PELICAN

Don't bother.
I didn't watch the game, but IMO this team needs a 3/4 who can guard the larger SF's.
I know its hard to guard Lebron, but as bad as Cunningham was he did a decent job on Lebron and the bigger/physical SF's

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I would trade Jrue to Toronto for OG in a second.

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Originally Posted by HartOfaPelican

I wouldn’t of wanted Paul in the first place.

We’re not ready to win this season. I would of taken a young player and a draft pick for Jrue. I don’t think the Pels ever shopped him seriously... which will prove to be a mistake and missed opportunity l.

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I don't see how. Book is known on Jrue. Nothing he does between now and the end of the season will suddenly change his trade value, far as playing on the court goes.

We stand to see a push to get him from us depending on a few things. Not a great free agent market could mean we see a few near contenders want to make a move.

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Originally Posted by Fedupfan

I would trade Jrue to Toronto for OG in a second.

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No reason why they can draft a guy like this in this draft or next.

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Originally Posted by Fedupfan

I would trade Jrue to Toronto for OG in a second.

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I would do that in a heartbeat! I’m sure if the Pels wanted to they could of made a trade happen.

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Originally Posted by AUSSIE_PELICAN

No reason why they can draft a guy like this in this draft or next.

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Have you watch OG?!? He’s really good and has length. You can’t just pick that up in the draft. You can try but you can get a sure thing via trade.