27th November - New Orleans Pelicans VS Los Angeles Lakers - 6-11

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Originally Posted by Sleeper

Jrue is not the player Griff thought he was. I really hope he was just pumping him up to be traded because he is nothing like Steve Nash was. Bad decisions in the clutch again.


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The post game AD crap made me want to ship him out tonight. Dude throws the ball to AD to help his buddy then kisses him after the game. Get em outta here coach!

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Originally Posted by AtlPelsFan

I hope AD or lebron gets injured

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Go somewhere else with that type of talk.....

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Originally Posted by Pelicanidae

If that's the case, head on over the ot 2020 Draft Thread where I'm keeping running tabs on tons of prospects :hihi:

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Fam... Love the work you put in that thread.

When you have a timeout and draw up a set play to tie the game or potentially win, and can’t even get the ball in bounds, something is wrong.

Atleast we got the Saints tomorrow lol.

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Originally Posted by AtlPelsFan

I hope AD or lebron gets injured

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I understand why you feel that way. I can’t stand them either, but it’s not there fault our coach helped them win. We can’t even inbound the basketball out of a timeout.

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Originally Posted by Pelicanidae

You wanna know how bad this game was for Ingram, from a shot-making perspective?

His 3pt% dropped 5% from tonight alone.

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Jesus

We got punished every time Gentry went with his small lineup

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Originally Posted by Taker597

Atleast we got the Saints tomorrow lol.

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Man going from SP to Alvin is something isn’t it?!

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Originally Posted by Taker597

Fam... Love the work you put in that thread.

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Will update it throughout the year. I still haven't done a Tyrese Haliburton post, haven't done a full Okongwu or Tshiebwe post, need to watch the Anthony Edwards game from tonight for more info, then I need to check out George Conditt, do a full Nico Mannion analysis, catch up with Théo Maledon (who I haven't watched at all yet this year)... so many prospects :hihi:

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Originally Posted by luckyman

Keep putting the ball in Jrue's hands at the end of the game. Jrue's hands keeping having the iq of a turtle.

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To be fair, I think he and Gentry know it.

We really miss Ball.

Can't believe Kuzma shot perfect smh

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Originally Posted by Fedupfan

The post game AD crap made me want to ship him out tonight. Dude throws the ball to AD to help his buddy then kisses him after the game. Get em outta here coach!

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No “killer” in him whatsoever when needed.


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Who wins tonight if Pels had a coach like Nick Nurse, Buddenholzer, or anybody that can actually in-game coach? This is getting horrific.

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Originally Posted by AusPel

Jesus

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Yep, before tonight he was 34 of 74, for 45.9%
Tonight he was 2 of 11 (18%)
Which makes a total of 36 of 85, which is 42.3% so it's a 3.6% drop, not 5%. My rough calculations were off (I'm bad at mental arithmatic lol)

But still a pretty big drop off for one game.

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Originally Posted by Sleeper

No “killer” in him whatsoever when needed.


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Pels seem to have a lot of soft players. They don’t get pissed enough and take it personal.

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Originally Posted by msusousaphone

To be fair, I think he and Gentry know it.

We really miss Ball.

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I think Griffin might have been in his ear to showcase Jrue. Because we figured his late game limitations years ago.

Odd for Gentry to suddenly have amnesia and do this again. I would honestly have rathered ANYBODY else inbound the ball there.

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Originally Posted by AusPel

Can't believe Kuzma shot perfect smh

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I mean he was guarded all game by nobody or someone 6’3

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Originally Posted by Fedupfan

Pels seem to have a lot of soft players. They don’t get pissed enough and take it personal.

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I’d disagree with that. Even Ingram seems to have more heart than Jrue. I’m proud of the teams resilience but.... making Jrue the leader? Nah man. Maybe locker room but in terms of handling the ball late in games... we need to learn from our mistakes


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Originally Posted by luckyman

I think Griffin might have been in his ear to showcase Jrue. Because we figured his late game limitations years ago.

Odd for Gentry to suddenly have amnesia and do this again. I would honestly have rathered ANYBODY else inbound the ball there.

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Sad part is they had a timeout still and he didn’t throw it till ad started running.

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Originally Posted by boot318

Go somewhere else with that type of talk.....

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You must be a AD fan smh

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Originally Posted by Sleeper

I’d disagree with that. Even Ingram seems to have more heart than Jrue. I’m proud of the teams resilience but.... making Jrue the leader? Nah man. Maybe locker room but in terms of handling the ball late in games... we need to learn from our mistakes


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I was referencing the “killer” part. Not many on the roster have that but lots have more than Jrue.

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Originally Posted by Pelicanidae

You wanna know how bad this game was for Ingram, from a shot-making perspective?

His 3pt% dropped 5% from tonight alone.

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That's what happens when you push a 3 point centric brand of play without instructing your personnel not to take stupid shots. He took really dumb 3 point shots. I hope I never see it again..

In other news, Cheick had 17 and 11 tonight continuing his great play

I hope this cements the fact that they have to get Lonzo playing and playing right. He's the best option at point guard right now.

If he would just drive the ball and stop the excessive 3s, he ottherwise runs the team like a point guard should.

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Originally Posted by Fedupfan

I was referencing the “killer” part. Not many on the roster have that but lots have more than Jrue.

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I got ya. I think Griffin said Jrue was a “Killer”in one of his summer league interviews.

These other guys aren’t paid to be killers but they show more determination than him for sure most of the time. I am a fan and i can even tell that most teams wait until the end of quarters and the game to full press and go hard. Why can’t he realize that?


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I’m glad I don’t watch ESPN. It’s going to be sickening until another game is played.

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Originally Posted by Fedupfan

Who wins tonight if Pels had a coach like Nick Nurse, Buddenholzer, or anybody that can actually in-game coach? This is getting horrific.

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The problem is finding a coach on that level.

The answer is zero.

Go back and look at the inbounds play that Davis stole. Everybody, and I mean everybody, was a statue except for Reddick...……….and that was coming off of a time out.

Why didn't Gentry challenge the Ingram drive when he was sandwiched between LBJ and Davis?

This was a game we literally gave away.

Need Favors back so bad. Hayes and Okafor combined for 13 & 6. And that 6 is very troubling.

Favors has done better than that by himself before this latest injury.

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Originally Posted by luckyman

I hope this cements the fact that they have to get Lonzo playing and playing right. He's the best option at point guard right now.

If he would just drive the ball and stop the excessive 3s, he ottherwise runs the team like a point guard should.

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Ball isn't a better option at point than Jrue.. I've watched him for the entirety of his career.

Unless he decides to grow a pair and start playing like he's not scared of the paint.

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Originally Posted by Taker597

The problem is finding a coach on that level.

The answer is zero.

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Surely someone is out there that won’t blow a 15 point lead or play a lineup that constantly gives up the paint. I mean how about playing a big at the end so they can at-least inbound the ball or protect the rim a little. Just completely stupid to play BI at center in any situation.

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Originally Posted by As I See It

Go back and look at the inbounds play that Davis stole. Everybody, and I mean everybody, was a statue except for Reddick...……….and that was coming off of a time out.

Why didn't Gentry challenge the Ingram drive when he was sandwiched between LBJ and Davis?

This was a game we literally gave away.

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Yep, they both fouled him.

Jrue should be traded after that hugging AD after the game. We dont need that soft ******** on our squad

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Originally Posted by AtlPelsFan

Jrue should be traded after that hugging AD after the game. We dont need that soft ******** on our squad

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:rolleyes:

Glad this game is over. We’ll have Zion and Favors when we face them again. Moving on to OKC.

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Originally Posted by As I See It

Go back and look at the inbounds play that Davis stole. Everybody, and I mean everybody, was a statue except for Reddick...……….and that was coming off of a time out.

Why didn't Gentry challenge the Ingram drive when he was sandwiched between LBJ and Davis?

This was a game we literally gave away.

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Anthony smacked Ingram clear as day before he knocked it out. How they missed that is beyond me. Not sure if that is something Gentry can challenge though.

Hell of a game. Couple of takeaways.

1. We need to fill the starting pg position. Lonzo needs to step up. If not, make some moves or draft a star pg. Jrue has no business playing point guard. He had too many turnovers.

2. Jaxson Hayes has a great future. He’s gotta get his reps and he needs to put on some weight. Maybe develop a midrange jumper. He’s got all star potential though.

3. Ingram is still a work in progress. He’s gotta focus on closing out games. Tonight wasn’t his night.

4. We need to keep Kenrich (for the right price)


I’m disappointed we lost but we played a pretty good game. Zion will be back soon so we have a lot to look forward to.




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Originally Posted by AtlPelsFan

Jrue should be traded after that hugging AD after the game. We dont need that soft ******** on our squad

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I feel like you but that’s the part of me that traditional fans don’t always feel. I’m never hugging someone that I just took an L to and bailed on my squad and my city. Jrue isn’t about that life and that was the perfect example. The man is charmin ultra soft.

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Originally Posted by Fedupfan

Surely someone is out there that won’t blow a 15 point lead or play a lineup that constantly gives up the paint. I mean how about playing a big at the end so they can at-least inbound the ball or protect the rim a little. Just completely stupid to play BI at center in any situation.

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You're gambling on complete unknowns for that to happen. Then, you risk at becoming a coaching carousel. I'll be honest... Finding a great coach in the NBA is hard. It's why great coaches and executives rarely move. There is only a dozen good ones and the next great ones come out of nowhere.

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Originally Posted by Taker597

You're gambling on complete unknowns for that to happen. Then, you risk at becoming a coaching carousel. I'll be honest... Finding a great coach in the NBA is hard. It's why grear coaches and executives rarely move. There is only a dozen giod ones and the next great ones come out of nowhere.

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This is very true. As anti Gentry as I am, I’m not sure the guy we’d want would be available. Hiring Gentry from the start was a huge mistake mind, but finding the right one won’t be as easy as snapping our fingers.

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Originally Posted by JJackisangry

This is very true. As anti Gentry as I am, I’m not sure the guy we’d want would be available. Hiring Gentry from the start was a huge mistake mind, but finding the right one won’t be as easy as snapping our fingers.

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I agree with that. I’m just tired of Gentry. He has lost games the exact same way for 5 years.

Gentry will get fired if he doesn’t do great with Zion in the lineup. He will be fired in the offseason.

These guys should be moved: Frank Jackson, Melli, Okafor. Disappointed in them.




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Originally Posted by pelicanchamp

Hell of a game. Couple of takeaways.

1. We need to fill the starting pg position. Lonzo needs to step up. If not, make some moves or draft a star pg. Jrue has no business playing point guard. He had too many turnovers.

2. Jaxson Hayes has a great future. He’s gotta get his reps and he needs to put on some weight. Maybe develop a midrange jumper. He’s got all star potential though.

3. Ingram is still a work in progress. He’s gotta focus on closing out games. Tonight wasn’t his night.

4. We need to keep Kenrich (for the right price)


I’m disappointed we lost but we played a pretty good game. Zion will be back soon so we have a lot to look forward to.




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If you're going to give the ball away 7 times, you better put up 45 like Harden. Jrue scored 4 points in the 2nd half.

Most of us can agree that Gentry is not the future for the Pelicans coaching position. He makes way too many mistakes every single game.

That being said, the real discussion is, when do we move on from him
and who do we hire?

I think if the front office is thinking about moving on. They should just rip off the bandaid and get it over with. The sooner we can get a coach in the better to start developing chemistry for the rest of this season going into next season.

I think it would be a huge mistake to wait till the offseason to make a change with this young team.

After tonight, the Pelicans' starting lineup of Jrue, JJ, BI, Kenrich, & Hayes has played 68 minutes together.

Of lineups that have played 65+ minutes, they are tied for the second highest net rating (+21.3) with the 76ers' starters, trailing only the Bucks. (via @nbastats)

— Mason Ginsberg (@MasonGinsberg) November 28, 2019

68 minutes is not enough (I prefer not to talk about lineup stats until there's at least a few hundred minutes in the books) but this is still a good sign.

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Originally Posted by HartOfaPelican

Most of us can agree that Gentry is not the future for the Pelicans coaching position. He makes way too many mistakes every single game.

That being said, the real discussion is, when do we move on from him
and who do we hire?

I think if the front office is thinking about moving on. They should just rip off the bandaid and get it over with. The sooner we can get a coach in the better to start developing chemistry for the rest of this season going into next season.

I think it would be a huge mistake to wait till the offseason to make a change with this young team.

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You dont do anything silly until you see what the team looks like healthy. If the Lakers are missing Lebron or AD, plus say Kuzma or Dwight, they definitely arent 15-2 right now and probably lose big tonight.

Not many teams can withstand missing at least two crucial pieces of the team for long stretches like this.

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Originally Posted by HartOfaPelican

Most of us can agree that Gentry is not the future for the Pelicans coaching position. He makes way too many mistakes every single game.

That being said, the real discussion is, when do we move on from him
and who do we hire?


I think if the front office is thinking about moving on. They should just rip off the bandaid and get it over with. The sooner we can get a coach in the better to start developing chemistry for the rest of this season going into next season.

I think it would be a huge mistake to wait till the offseason to make a change with this young team.

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I really think they should give Finch or someone on the staff a chance. Fred Vinson as well. Just let someone else get a chance if they make a change.

Man that's a tough loss.

I can't understand why we didn't hold for the last shot with like 14 sec left in the game down by 1.

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Originally Posted by luckyman

You dont do anything silly until you see what the team looks like healthy. If the Lakers are missing Lebron or AD, plus say Kuzma or Dwight, they definitely arent 15-2 right now and probably lose big tonight.

Not many teams can withstand missing at least two crucial pieces of the team for long stretches like this.

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That is what’s saving Gentry’s job. He’s a bad coach but the injuries are helping hide it. His coaching career outside of Pels speaks for itself. He’s just not good.