NBA Draft Combine Tomorrow (5/16/13)/Measurements pg. 6

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Originally Posted by Eman5805

Demps did say AD's grown half an inch since we drafted him, actually.

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And that was a few months ago.

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Originally Posted by Nola Hornet

Look at Davis arms. He's clearly longer than Noel.

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That's first thing I noticed too. Wide shoulders plus long arms equal crazy wingspan!

They had to count his hair their measurement. Davis looks to be taller than Noel in that pic.

I really like CJ McCollum. He can score. He is the craftiest ball handler I've seen in a while. He can split the trap in the pick and roll. Hesitation, crossover in iso, come off of screens, step back jumper. Hes not a great athlete. But I still wish I could have seen his numbers.

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Originally Posted by BeeBall Reasons

I really like CJ McCollum. He can score. He is the craftiest ball handler I've seen in a while. He can split the trap in the pick and roll. Hesitation, crossover in iso, come off of screens, step back jumper. Hes not a great athlete. But I still wish I could have seen his numbers.

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I think you would probably be impressed with his interview too....

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Originally Posted by ramsters60

I think you would probably be impressed with his interview too....

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I really don't care to much for interviews but his is maybe the best I've ever seen. Ben McLemore is real dumb.

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Originally Posted by BeeBall Reasons

I really don't care to much for interviews but his is maybe the best I've ever seen. Ben McLemore is real dumb.

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Not picking on u ,but to everyone calling him dumb from an interview is really blunt and ignorant. Not every guy is good with the public, or nervousness may even come in. Its extremely unfair to judge someone from only one appearance. People like that really annoys me and shows close-mindness.

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Originally Posted by Purple Haze

I'm really not a fan of BM :( I get his attributes but his bad qualities just make me very nervous as a starting 2.

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Lol B-Mac will be a late bloomer IMO. He has "it" but doesn't know it yet. He really pisses me of when he doesn't help his team take cover.

I'm rooting for the guy ..maybe he will surprise us and become the Andre Drummond of this year(potential in college but never showed up for their teams)

I can see Michael Beasley in BM tbh.

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Originally Posted by Silverfoxx

Lol B-Mac will be a late bloomer IMO. He has "it" but doesn't know it yet. He really pisses me of when he doesn't help his team take cover.

I'm rooting for the guy ..maybe he will surprise us and become the Andre Drummond of this year(potential in college but never showed up for their teams)

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College bigs have different issues that may prevent they from playing to their potential. The paint is usually packed and if you have selfish guard play a lot of times bigs won't get to touch the ball like they should. McLemore is a perimeter player which the college game caters to.

McLemore's interview does nothing to alleviate the worries about his aggressiveness and assertiveness on the court.

I don't believe McLemore has "it".

...and CJ McCollum duplicates the roll we hope Austin Rivers captures.

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Originally Posted by Silverfoxx

Not picking on u ,but to everyone calling him dumb from an interview is really blunt and ignorant. Not every guy is good with the public, or nervousness may even come in. Its extremely unfair to judge someone from only one appearance. People like that really annoys me and shows close-mindness.

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You do realize he was redshirted for being academically inelidgeable right? I dont know him personally and I'm sure he's a nice guy but I think its fair to question his intelligence when you pair that with his interview. I doubt it will affect his ability to play basketball however.

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Originally Posted by BeeBall Reasons

You do realize he was redshirted for being academically inelidgeable right? I dont know him personally and I'm sure he's a nice guy but I think its fair to question his intelligence when you pair that with his interview. I doubt it will affect his ability to play basketball however.

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Being academically ineligible doesn't mean you're dumb though. Maybe he just didn't have his priorities right at the time. I don't know personally but I agree you certainly have to call it in question and talk to the kid. One can see dumb pretty quickly.

He was ineligible due to transferring too many times. He qualified academically.

Again nothing against the guy I'm sure he's nice but he was dismissed from Oak Hill and arrested for not appearing in court. I think he's a pretty nice humble kid, but he doesn't sound to bright.

Hes not a rocket scientist, but calling him dumb is a little harsh. As long as he can ball and is willing to learn i dont care if his IQ is that of a carrot. He does not seem like the type of kid that will be trouble for a team. The only true worry for me is his passive nature; he impressed me alot with his vert. I did not realize he was on par with Oladipo.

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Originally Posted by BallSoHard

Being academically ineligible doesn't mean you're dumb though. Maybe he just didn't have his priorities right at the time. I don't know personally but I agree you certainly have to call it in question and talk to the kid. One can see dumb pretty quickly.

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If you can't grease pass college courses enough to play ball even if it's doesn't speak to your ability to learn the fact you were that distracted says something about you. Especially with so much at stake.

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Originally Posted by da ThRONe

If you can't grease pass college courses enough to play ball even if it's doesn't speak to your ability to learn the fact you were that distracted says something about you. Especially with so much at stake.

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Right, except that's not what happened w mclemore.

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Originally Posted by BallSoHard

Right, except that's not what happened w mclemore.

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So what did happen?

#364

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Originally Posted by da ThRONe

So what did happen?

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The partial qualifier tag was placed on McLemore and Traylor due to the two players having murky high school transcripts:McLemore started his high school career at Wellston High in his hometown. Last year, he attended both Oak Hill Academy in Mouth of Wilson, Va., and Christian Life Center in Houston. Traylor attended Fenger and Julian High Schools in Chicago and IMG Academy in Florida last year.

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Originally Posted by BallSoHard

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Seems like a very dumb reason to hold kids out. But sounds very par the course for the NCAA.

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Originally Posted by da ThRONe

Seems like a very dumb reason to hold kids out. But sounds very par the course for the NCAA.

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Can't agree more man.

We lose out on Porter and Burke, give me CJ.

I think if we lose out on the top 5, I'd trade down for Caldwell Pope and/or Gobert. Then you can run one more year with Gordon and Lopez while they season. Gobert and Davis would make us so stout inside it would be sick. Him and Davis could workout together to gain some weight and be better than Gasol and Randolph from Memphis.

Even with Gobert, at crunch time or small ball lineup your running with Anderson and Davis.

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Originally Posted by Eman5805

For reference, CP3 ran a 3.22, Westbrook ran a 3.08, Derrick Rose ran a 3.05, John Wall ran a 3.14, Jeff Teague ran a 3.18, and Nate Robinson ran a 2.96.

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gordon ran a 3.02

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Originally Posted by NMThreeMVP

McLemore's interview does nothing to alleviate the worries about his aggressiveness and assertiveness on the court.

I don't believe McLemore has "it".

...and CJ McCollum duplicates the roll we hope Austin Rivers captures.

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Why does it matter? We aren't looking for a #1 option. We're looking for a #2 or #3 option. I swear, People seem to have this idea that we need to draft #1 option in this draft.

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Originally Posted by ramsters60

I think you would probably be impressed with his interview too....

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CJ went to Lehigh.. A school not quite on par with the Ivy League schools, but not that far below them either. They have a HIGH academic standard.

I'm highly in favor of picking him. He's got many intangibles that can't be coached, including court smarts. And trust me, having on court smarts matters big time.

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Originally Posted by Bayou Bee

CJ went to Lehigh.. A school not quite on par with the Ivy League schools, but not that far below them either. They have a HIGH academic standard.

I'm highly in favor of picking him. He's got many intangibles that can't be coached, including court smarts. And trust me, having on court smarts matters big time.

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Placing Lehigh anywhere near an Ivy is a gross exaggeration.

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Originally Posted by Bayou Bee

CJ went to Lehigh.. A school not quite on par with the Ivy League schools, but not that far below them either. They have a HIGH academic standard.

I'm highly in favor of picking him. He's got many intangibles that can't be coached, including court smarts. And trust me, having on court smarts matters big time.

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It might be a "reach" but along the same lines as a Lillard reach. I wouldn't be mad at all (if Burke's gone).

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Originally Posted by Purple Haze

It might be a "reach" but along the same lines as a Lillard reach. I wouldn't be mad at all (if Burke's gone).

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No way we take CJ, Demps is going to see too many similarities to Rivers and Monty is not going to lack him because he's not an elite athlete. Still I think he would be a good lightning to Gordon's thunder and with him we would have a Spurs-esque team of guards who can get into the paint as well as shoot from the outside.

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Originally Posted by HornetGuru

gordon ran a 3.02

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That is ridiculously fast.

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Originally Posted by nolaslim213

That is ridiculously fast.

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9th fastest time in the DX database of all time. Nate Robinson is the only active player that has a faster time at 2.96 (good for 3rd all time).

Also, while looking up all time rankings, I spotted Brian Roberts near the top. The dude had some incredible times with a 3.05 in the sprint and a 10.65 in the lane agility.

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Originally Posted by Bee-Fense

9th fastest time in the DX database of all time. Nate Robinson is the only active player that has a faster time at 2.96 (good for 3rd all time).

Also, while looking up all time rankings, I spotted Brian Roberts near the top. The dude had some incredible times with a 3.05 in the sprint and a 10.65 in the lane agility.

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If Roberts could just develop some court vision, he'd be a very solid player in this league. His shooting is fantastic, and he improved defensively as the year went on. From what I understand, he's new to the PG position, so there is an adjustment period, but he is already 27. He's a nice bench player as of right now though.

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Originally Posted by nolaslim213

That is ridiculously fast.

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ya he also had a 40 inch vert. He's always been a sick athlete.

A pity he's made of porcelain

so true

Everyone is saying mclemore might go #1 overall and this and that. Let's look into the stats:

Otto Porter 16.2 - 7.5 - 2.7 - 48%
Ben Mclemore 15.9 - 5.2 - 2.0 49%

Porter is the youngest of all the prospects besides Noel, he is only 19 and theres nothing he cant do. He can score, defend, pass, basketball IQ, and rebound. There really arent any holes in his game, some people say he cant create for himself, i disagree. I think 5 years down the road Porter and Burke will be the 2 best players in this draft. Also Porter is 6"9 with a 7"2 wingspan

The more I read about this stuff the more I'm beginning to think that the stars are aligning for the Pelicans to trade their lottery pick in some package to get a proven vet and probably a pick later in the draft or another 1st in 2014.

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Originally Posted by Davisistheman

The more I read about this stuff the more I'm beginning to think that the stars are aligning for the Pelicans to trade their lottery pick in some package to get a proven vet and probably a pick later in the draft or another 1st in 2014.

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You have to have a suitor. Other teams know how much better next year's draft is, too.

We will have a lot more information tomorrow night after the lottery. Right now I think the top three players to go are going to be McLemore, Noel and Porter. IMO Noel is a bad fit for the team and Porter is a great fit. I think if the Pels win the lottery they will go with McLemore or Porter.

If the Pels don't win the lottery and are picking between 5 an 8 I would be very happy with Oladipo or Burke. If neither of those guys is available and someone offered a trade I would be good with trading down a few spots if we can get an asset in return. Mid to late lottery has several intriguing players. At center Len, Gobert, or Zeller. I don't know a ton about Saric, but SF is a position of need and he seems like he could be good. CJ McCollum and MCW could be candidates at guard.

With Monty being a seemingly defense minded coach, does Shabazz get any consideration if the Pels are picking outside the top 4? I admit I do not follow most of the collage players, only know of what I read. Early on I thought this guy would be our best bet since he's a pretty solid scoring threat at the 3 which we are sorely lacking, but I have since cooled on him because of what is written of his defense or lack their of. Can this guy develop defense or is he destained to be Aminu's polor opposite? Would there be a possibility where Shabazz and Aminu co-existed to form a complete SF?

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Originally Posted by Davisistheman

With Monty being a seemingly defense minded coach, does Shabazz get any consideration is the Pels are picking outside the top 4? I admit I do not follow most of the collage players, only know of what I read. Early on I thought this guy would be our best bet since he's a pretty solid scoring threat at the 3 which we are sorely lacking, but I have sense cooled on him because of what is written of his defense or lack their of. Can this guy develop defense or is he destained to be Aminu's polor opposite? Would there be a possibility where Shabazz and Aminu co-existed to forme a whole SF?

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i think so, rivers' wasnt known for his D but we took him. bazz has potential to be a very good defender. I think he could be a good fit.

I could be totally wrong here, but when I see Shabazz play, I think about Paul Pierce.

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Originally Posted by RaisingTheBar

I could be totally wrong here, but when I see Shabazz play, I think about Paul Pierce.

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You and me.

Would it be bad to have a Paul Pierce type of player?

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Originally Posted by Vinny6420

Would it be bad to have a Paul Pierce type of player?

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Sheeeet if we knew shabazz would be Paul pierce caliber type player. We would draft him #1 overall :hihi:

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Originally Posted by Vinny6420

Would it be bad to have a Paul Pierce type of player?

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not if u like winning.

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Originally Posted by kclaboy504

Sheeeet if we knew shabazz would be Paul pierce caliber type player. We would draft him #1 overall :hihi:

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def.

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Originally Posted by Eman5805

http://ukrecruiting.bloginky.com/fil...08/UKposts.jpg

Couple things stand out. Look how much narrower Noel's shoulders are compared to Davis. Hell. Look how broad Davis's shoulders are compared to Cauley-Stein.

And also, when they did Noel's measurements, did they count the hair too? :huh2:

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Noel has a slight frame for such a tall guy. It's even more troubling that since his injury in Feb, he's lost weight doing less activity. If his metabolism works at such a high rate, it might be many years before he enters the 250lb territory he needs to be to play C.