Hornets Report Redraft 2013 draft thread

There goes my PF. lol

Beeball you really needed Al jeff to go along with Bosh and KG? I know a couple guys you could've really used

I had a really tough time deciding between Millsap and one other guy

Really surprised he last this long.

Phoenix Suns select:


Nicolas Batum

http://basket-infos.com/wp-content/u...dunk-mcgee.jpg



This pick allows me to move Faried to PF where he belongs, and I add another defender to my squad. Batum should be the perfect outlet for my PG when teams crowd Kobe. Then Faried will clean up the mess on the boards.

I had Batum behind Gallo and another SF.

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Originally Posted by Pelicans78

I had Batum behind Gallo and another SF.

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There is still one more I like. But I need to decide between him and someone else...

May be able to get them both. We're at the flip side were you get two pretty close picks. I have 2 guys I really like for my team, but not sure if they'll last till the end of the next round.

That's about where Batum should go imo

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Originally Posted by Inner_GI

Really surprised he last this long.

Phoenix Suns select:


Nicolas Batum





This pick allows me to move Faried to PF where he belongs, and I add another defender to my squad. Batum should be the perfect outlet for my PG when teams crowd Kobe. Then Faried will clean up the mess on the boards.

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I spent a long time looking at the stats between him and Leonard. Some things just popped about Leonard.


Honestly I wasn't even considering Leonard but while researching Batum, Leonard kept popping up.

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Originally Posted by Soundwave

I spent a long time looking at the stats between him and Leonard. Some things just popped about Leonard.

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I wanted Leonard, but you know, I've missed all the players I've wanted... I'm thinking this draft order led to that. I didn't fully understand how pick #5 really messes **** up with getting a quality big man.

Makes me glad I Picked Howard when I could. I think there is one more good big man

If the guy I'm looking for falls to me it'll be a miracle by round 4. Still trying to get back into Round 3 in some shape or fashion. Batum was a quality pick this late. We aren't playing money based contracts anyways so solid pick for a swingman like Batum. I guess you either didn't see my message or care to respond AD23/AD23forMVP

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Originally Posted by Inner_GI

I wanted Leonard, but you know, I've missed all the players I've wanted... I'm thinking this draft order led to that. I didn't fully understand how pick #5 really messes **** up with getting a quality big man.

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Honestly, it's just a pretty thin position so I had to grab one when I could.

With the 67 Picks... The NY Knicks select C Larry Sanders

http://www.bucksketball.com/wp-conte...ry-sanders.jpg





Larry Sanders leads the NBA in shot blocking and he is one of the favourites to win the DPOY. He has broken out this year and gives Knicks a solid defensive anchor down low to complement Durant and Aldridge. A paper on interior defense presented at the prestigous Sloan sports analytics conference pointed out that Larry Sanders is the NBAs best interior defender!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature...&v=0HX0Ezb-OPE

What a terrible pairing with Aldridge !!!!

^^^ lol i dont care anymore haha, just wanted to actually be involved in this instead of having to wait 6 more rounds to pick.

oh also since ad23 at one point said Lamarcus Aldridge is not a good defender... here is more on the paper presented at the Sloan MIT conference highlighting that not only is Larry Sanders the best interior defender in the NBA but Lamarcus Aldridge is right up there with him.. making my front court the best defensive front court in this game.

http://www.blazersedge.com/2013/3/4/...post-defenders

http://www.sloansportsconference.com...0the%20NBA.pdf

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Originally Posted by hornetstime247

^^^ lol i dont care anymore haha, just wanted to actually be involved in this instead of having to wait 6 more rounds to pick.

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I'm just messing lol

With the 68th pick, the Sacramento Kings are proud to select:

http://nbcprobasketballtalk.files.wo...ndyv.jpg?w=296

Anderson Varejao, C

Varejao was averaging 14 points and 14 rebounds before his injury, but luckily this redraft doesn't take injuries into account. Varejao ranks second among centers in offensive rebound rate and second in defensive rebound rate. Varejao ranks second among power forwards and centers in offensive rebound rate and third in defensive rebound rate. So long story short, Varejao is atleast a top three rebounder in the NBA, amongst all players. But that isn't all Varejao is elite at. He's also an elite pick and roll defender allowing just 0.64 points per pick and roll, allowing a unheard of 31.8% shooting. He also allows just 0.83 points in the post on 41% shooting.

Varejao also knows how to play the pick and roll offensively as well, averaging 1.02 points per pick and roll on 50% shooting. Which makes him a top 50 pick and roll player in the league. Last season he averaged 1.09 points per roll on 62% shooting. Which made him a top 35 player in the league. This is obviously huge for the Kings as they now have two pick and roll options for one of the leagues premier pick and roll guards, James Harden.

You SOB

Damn. There goes one of my guys

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Originally Posted by AD23forMVP

With the 68th pick, the Sacramento Kings are proud to select:

http://nbcprobasketballtalk.files.wo...ndyv.jpg?w=296

Anderson Varejao, C

Varejao was averaging 14 points and 14 rebounds before his injury, but luckily this redraft doesn't take injuries into account. Varejao ranks second among centers in offensive rebound rate and second in defensive rebound rate. Varejao ranks second among power forwards and centers in offensive rebound rate and third in defensive rebound rate. So long story short, Varejao is atleast a top three rebounder in the NBA, amongst all players. But that isn't all Varejao is elite at. He's also an elite pick and roll defender allowing just 0.64 points per pick and roll, allowing a unheard of 31.8% shooting. He also allows just 0.83 points in the post on 41% shooting.

Varejao also knows how to play the pick and roll offensively as well, averaging 1.02 points per pick and roll on 50% shooting. Which makes him a top 50 pick and roll player in the league. Last season he averaged 1.09 points per roll on 62% shooting. Which made him a top 35 player in the league. This is obviously huge for the Kings as they now have two pick and roll options for one of the leagues premier pick and roll guards, James Harden.

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****!!!!!! Whyyyy bruhh?

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Originally Posted by Trell

****!!!!!! Whyyyy bruhh?

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Why is he still available this late?

I'm asking myself the same question.

Obligatory angry post about you picking one of the few guys I want arrgghhh

I'm also going to throw out there again that I am thrilled about my pick and roll offense.

#unstoppable

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Originally Posted by AD23forMVP

With the 68th pick, the Sacramento Kings are proud to select:

http://nbcprobasketballtalk.files.wo...ndyv.jpg?w=296

Anderson Varejao, C

Varejao was averaging 14 points and 14 rebounds before his injury, but luckily this redraft doesn't take injuries into account. Varejao ranks second among centers in offensive rebound rate and second in defensive rebound rate. Varejao ranks second among power forwards and centers in offensive rebound rate and third in defensive rebound rate. So long story short, Varejao is atleast a top three rebounder in the NBA, amongst all players. But that isn't all Varejao is elite at. He's also an elite pick and roll defender allowing just 0.64 points per pick and roll, allowing a unheard of 31.8% shooting. He also allows just 0.83 points in the post on 41% shooting.

Varejao also knows how to play the pick and roll offensively as well, averaging 1.02 points per pick and roll on 50% shooting. Which makes him a top 50 pick and roll player in the league. Last season he averaged 1.09 points per roll on 62% shooting. Which made him a top 35 player in the league. This is obviously huge for the Kings as they now have two pick and roll options for one of the leagues premier pick and roll guards, James Harden.

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According to this... Anderson Varejo tested as the NBAs worst interior defender :)

http://www.sloansportsconference.com...0the%20NBA.pdf

Varejeo numbers are a little inflated if you ask me. He is a poor interior defender who often doesn't contest the shot in effort of getting the rebound. And while blocks aren't everything has one of the lowest numbers amongst centers per 48 minutes which is alarming for someone as mobile as he is. He also plays with Kyrie Irving in the pick in roll on a team with not a lot of other options. Still a nice pick, just debating.

There is still one big guy out there that Im shocked is still available...

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Originally Posted by BeeBall Reasons

Varejeo numbers are a little inflated if you ask me. He is a poor interior defender who often doesn't contest the shot in effort of getting the rebound. And while blocks aren't everything has one of the lowest numbers amongst centers per 48 minutes which is alarming for someone as mobile as he is. He also plays with Kyrie Irving in the pick in roll on a team with not a lot of other options. Still a nice pick, just debating.

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Posted similar numbers in that post-Lebron pre-Kyrie season, so I don't think Kyrie has much to do with it.

Also teams don't really go after him defensively. Only 29 post attempts in 25 games this season.

With the 69th pick in the draft, the Atlanta Hawks select:

PF Derrick Favors

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Originally Posted by AD23forMVP

Posted similar numbers in that post-Lebron pre-Kyrie season, so I don't think Kyrie has much to do with it.

Also teams don't really go after him defensively. Teams only went after him in the post 29 times in 25 games this season.

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not talking about in the post. I'm talking about to contest players near the basket. He's a solid pick and roll defender yes but he doesn't contest shots effectively. I think you are going to need to pick up a couple of solid perimeter defenders that can also spread the floor for Harden, or else that is your weak spot. You'll be a nightmare on the glass though, that's for sure.

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Originally Posted by BeeBall Reasons

not talking about in the post. I'm talking about to contest players near the basket. He's a solid pick and roll defender yes but he doesn't contest shots effectively. I think you are going to need to pick up a couple of solid perimeter defenders that can also spread the floor for Harden, or else that is your weak spot. You'll be a nightmare on the glass though, that's for sure.

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I'm not talking about the post either lol. I'm talking about pick and roll offensively and defensively.

And I agree about the contesting shots. Neither Boozer or Varejao do it. But I'm not worried.

I've been anxiously waiting my pick for a while and can't believe he fell this far and how Kevin Martin was drafted before him, but with the 70th pick, the Brooklyn Nets select...
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Joe Johnson, Sg

I've got a bad feeling about this bojangles pick...

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well ****

nice pick bo, I got Andy V in the mid 4th round last year

nice pick bojangles... joe johnson is still a very good player even if he is overpaid.

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I've got a bad feeling about this bojangles pick...

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:cool:

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Originally Posted by hornetstime247

nice pick bojangles... joe johnson is still a very good player even if he is overpaid.

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Yea I'm glad contracts don't come into play.

I don't see the hype of Verajao. He's played like 50 games the past 2 seasons... I thought about picking him, but didn't know we'd be going back 3-4 years to predict what he "could" be. lol

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Originally Posted by Inner_GI

I don't see the hype of Verajao. He's played like 50 games the past 2 seasons... I thought about picking him, but didn't know we'd be going back 3-4 years to predict what he "could" be. lol

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We know what he is, his only issue is his injuries.

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Originally Posted by AD23forMVP

We know what he is, his only issue is his injuries.

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Yeah, that was my reasoning for selecting Gordon this round, that and it was pretty great value at that spot.

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Originally Posted by AD23forMVP

We know what he is, his only issue is his injuries.

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He hasn't been what he "is" in years. Can I pick MJ because he plays pickup games against MKG? Kidding of course, but damn.

I just think I misunderstood the premise of this draft. I thought it was build a team this year. It seems career values will come more into play.

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He hasn't been what he "is" in years. Can I pick MJ because he plays pickup games against MKG? Kidding of course, but damn.

I just think I misunderstood the premise of this draft. I thought it was build a team this year. It seems career values will come more into play.

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He was performing at an allstar level earlier this year.

I don't know if this is a draft for this year or for what people think players are right now to be honest, but either way Varejao was having a career year. Probably a All-Star type year and putting up rebound numbers that are elite.

for 25 games. That's like saying Gordon was back to his Clipper ways with his 21pt average last year.

Either way, I agree he's a good pick, but only if we take career perception and stats into play.

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Originally Posted by Inner_GI

for 25 games. That's like saying Gordon was back to his Clipper ways with his 21pt average last year.

Either way, I agree he's a good pick, but only if we take career perception and stats into play.

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And like I've stated, this wasn't just a 25 game "fluke" type thing. He's been playing like this for a couple years.

The San Antonio Spurs select...

http://www.nba.com/media/act_tyreke_evans.jpg

TYREKE EVANS

Tyreke Evans is an outstanding ball handler with amazing size, while posting a PER of 18.42 this year. He brings the ability to bullrush his way to the rim, as well as use his crafty handles to navigate through traffic. He has also learned how to play within himself and has identified his role on a team, as he has improved his efficiency and his improved advanced metrics show this.

3 picks away from my top target... if i get him this late in the draft I will be shocked.

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3 picks away from my top target... if i get him this late in the draft I will be shocked.

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If you select the guy I think you're going to take I'll be pretty upset...

There's a few guys I still really like.