Our Current Standing

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Originally Posted by PelsFan2313

Basically, we should be shooting for the fifth worst record (or better), so that we're guaranteed a top 6 pick, and subsequently a player from the first or second tier (McLemore, Noel, Smart, Porter, Shabazz, or Oladipo) in this years draft.

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I agree but I still want Burke.
I know I'm going to get flamed for this comment, but he really reminds me of CP3.
As much as people hate him for leaving, it would be nice to replace him with the closest player in the draft.

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Originally Posted by PelsFan2313

Basically, we should be shooting for the fifth worst record (or better), so that we're guaranteed a top 6 pick, and subsequently a player from the first or second tier (McLemore, Noel, Smart, Porter, Shabazz, or Oladipo) in this years draft.

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I'd put burke in tier 1 because he is the best PG in the draft, my top 5 right now is noel, mclemore, burke, smart, porter with bazz and oladipo tying at 6th

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Originally Posted by PelsFan2313

Basically, we should be shooting for the fifth worst record (or better), so that we're guaranteed a top 6 pick, and subsequently a player from the first or second tier (McLemore, Noel, Smart, Porter, Shabazz, or Oladipo) in this years draft.

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I'd put burke in tier 1 because he is the best PG in the draft, my top 5 right now is noel, mclemore, burke, smart, porter with bazz and oladipo tying at 6th

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Originally Posted by HornetGuru

I'd put burke in tier 1 because he is the best PG in the draft, my top 5 right now is noel, mclemore, burke, smart, porter with bazz and oladipo tying at 6th

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Fair enough. I wouldn't mind taking Burke if elite ceiling players like McLemore, Noel, and Smart are off the board.

In my opinion, Porter makes the most sense fitting wise with our current core of Rivers, EJ, Anderson, and Davis.

Nevertheless, Demps will probably go BPA. As he should.

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Originally Posted by PelsFan2313

Fair enough. I wouldn't mind taking Burke if elite ceiling players like McLemore, Noel, and Smart are off the board.

In my opinion, Porter makes the most sense fitting wise with our current core of Rivers, EJ, Anderson, and Davis.

Nevertheless, Demps will probably go BPA. As he should.

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Agree in the nba u should always go BPA because u can trade, only time BPA doesnt matter is when u have 2 players graded the same, then u can kill 2 birds with 1 stone taking the BPA and filling a need, i see burke and shabazz both as this, grade them about the same and have a need for PG and SF

Phoenix, Sacramento, and Dallas are all winnable games. Phoenix is pretty much in tank mode losing their last 6 to teams like Minnesota, Washington, and Sacramento. It should be no different against the Hornets. The Kings game will be interesting as the Hornets are 2-0 against them this year. I'm sure they'll give the team a tough time in Sacramento. Dallas is 1-1 against the Hornets and playing against them in our final two games gives us a good shot at splitting those games.

I can see a 29-53 or 28-54. I hope 28 games is the most they'll win. As 29 wins makes things pretty complicated as I expect Toronto, Sacramento, and maybe Washington could be hovering around there if they decide to tank.

I think at the end of the day, we'll be somewhere around 6-8. I don't see any way we'll end up in the bottom 5 in the overall standings.

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Originally Posted by Nola Hornet

Phoenix, Sacramento, and Dallas are all winnable games. Phoenix is pretty much in tank mode losing their last 6 to teams like Minnesota, Washington, and Sacramento. It should be no different against the Hornets. The Kings game will be interesting as the Hornets are 2-0 against them this year. I'm sure they'll give the team a tough time in Sacramento. Dallas is 1-1 against the Hornets and playing against them in our final two games gives us a good shot at splitting those games.

I can see a 29-53 or 28-54. I hope 28 games is the most they'll win. As 29 wins makes things pretty complicated as I expect Toronto, Sacramento, and maybe Washington could be hovering around there if they decide to tank.

I think at the end of the day, we'll be somewhere around 6-8. I don't see any way we'll end up in the bottom 5 in the overall standings.

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ya im really hoping monty shuts down gordon and lets him keep rehabing, take GV out so he doesnt hurt his trade value w a possible injury, and give more minutes to people like roberts, miller and aminu to evaluate them.

Man, the Cavs are in their annual tank mode. This is every year. Once they are out of it, it seems like they intentionally continue to lose. 10 straight now.

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Originally Posted by HornetGuru

ya im really hoping monty shuts down gordon and lets him keep rehabing, take GV out so he doesnt hurt his trade value w a possible injury, and give more minutes to people like roberts, miller and aminu to evaluate them.

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Wasn't it around this time last year that they shut down Ariza?

We are winning too many games now, when it doesn't matter playoffs wise. And we may finish with a late 10 pick... If we could still get Burke i would be ok.
The good point is we don't stablish a totally losing culture with that group.

No such thing as winning to many games.

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Originally Posted by Inner_GI

No such thing as winning to many games.

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When they are meaningless at the end of the season I think there is such a thing.

I just hate the notion of "meaningless" games. Do you think they are meaningless to Davis, Miller, Aminu, etc? No, and probably a resounding no. They want to play well, learn the NBA, grow their skills, audition for a job, etc.

They need these games, and they want to win. Fans shouldn't root for losses. It's quite simple.

Agreed, and I don't. Kind of like not picking your own team in the March Madness brackets. If they win, bonus for you because your team advanced, but if they lose then you got it right :hihi:

Losing out while providing a fight is good enough for me (the ticket holder).

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Originally Posted by UNO Gracias

Losing out while providing a fight is good enough for me (the ticket holder).

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Good enough for me too, but I'm not going to blatantly root for losses and/or suggest benching Davis to lose. Davis needs all the minutes he can get.

Does he need the minuets? Sure. But what if he gets injured in the process and we lose him to start next season? That would suck. Give him fewer minuets in these meaningless games.

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Originally Posted by UNO Gracias

Does he need the minuets? Sure. But what if he gets injured in the process and we lose him to start next season? That would suck. Give him fewer minuets in these meaningless games.

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So we are playing the what-if game now... okay cool. Yes, that would suck, but if we are going that route we should just sign d-leaguers to play our games. Gordon, vasquez, anderson, and davis should be resting if we played that game. Davis needs the minutes more than anyone on the team.

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Originally Posted by UNO Gracias

Does he need the minuets? Sure. But what if he gets injured in the process and we lose him to start next season? That would suck. Give him fewer minuets in these meaningless games.

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A player is just as likely to get hurt playing 10 minutes than 25+. You can always get hurt, it's sports.

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Originally Posted by Purple Haze

A player is just as likely to get hurt playing 10 minutes than 25+. You can always get hurt, it's sports.

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I know where you are coming from and I am not suggesting anyone sit out as an injury concern, but I'm not sure the math adds up here.....

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Originally Posted by Inner_GI

I just hate the notion of "meaningless" games. Do you think they are meaningless to Davis, Miller, Aminu, etc? No, and probably a resounding no. They want to play well, learn the NBA, grow their skills, audition for a job, etc.

They need these games, and they want to win. Fans shouldn't root for losses. It's quite simple.

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IMO, fans should want the team to get better. It's quite simple. What is meaningful to those guys is how they play, not whether the team won or loss. I would not try and throw a game, but as a fan, at this late stage of the season I would prefer they just play well and lose. I realize they cannot nor should not be able to control that, but that is my preference with less than 10 games to go and out of the playoffs.

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Originally Posted by ramsters60

I know where you are coming from and I am not suggesting anyone sit out as an injury concern, but I'm not sure the math adds up here.....

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I said just as likely, not MORE likely. An injury can come at any time.

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Originally Posted by PELICANSFAN

IMO, fans should want the team to get better. It's quite simple. What is meaningful to those guys is how they play, not whether the team won or loss. I would not try and throw a game, but as a fan, at this late stage of the season I would prefer they just play well and lose. I realize they cannot nor should not be able to control that, but that is my preference with less than 10 games to go and out of the playoffs.

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That's exactly my point of view, with the few games remaining to the end of the season, and all playoffs chances being down since many time ago I would want the team to keep the games close till the end, but lose them.
Next year we start from zero again.

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Originally Posted by PELICANSFAN

IMO, fans should want the team to get better. It's quite simple. What is meaningful to those guys is how they play, not whether the team won or loss. I would not try and throw a game, but as a fan, at this late stage of the season I would prefer they just play well and lose. I realize they cannot nor should not be able to control that, but that is my preference with less than 10 games to go and out of the playoffs.

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Couldn't agree more, especially with the bolded part.

hornets in sole possession of 6th worst, kings at 7th worst, Detroit at 5th worst.

Gordon and GV should sit tomorrow. Fif place here we come.

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Originally Posted by luckyman

Gordon and GV should sit tomorrow. Fif place here we come.

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yup

we are 1 game from being tied for 5th

Tomorrow is a huge game. Sacramento is going to lose out because their schedule is brutal after us. We need to lose, no question. Detroit could drop a few games because they play @Cleveland, vsCharlotte, vs Philly, and @Brooklyn (who might rest players for playoffs). If they lose a couple of those, we are in 5th place.

we have no gordon tomorrow and GV turned his ankle tonight so we should lose to the kings, and detroit has to win 1 game out of the 2 vs the cavs or bobcats

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Originally Posted by HornetGuru

we have no gordon tomorrow and GV turned his ankle tonight so we should lose to the kings, and detroit has to win 1 game out of the 2 vs the cavs or bobcats

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Vasquez said he is fine:

Saliendo para Sacramento! Gracias A Dios por que lo del tobillo no fue nada grave. Off to Sacramentos!! My ankle is ok nothing major.

— Greivis Vasquez (@greivisvasquez) April 10, 2013

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Originally Posted by nolaslim213

Vasquez said he is fine:

Saliendo para Sacramento! Gracias A Dios por que lo del tobillo no fue nada grave. Off to Sacramentos!! My ankle is ok nothing major.

— Greivis Vasquez (@greivisvasquez) April 10, 2013

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it is now but i bet it has some pain tomorrow

It's that time of the year again lol

I really think the SAC will win their last game of the year against the Crappers.
Its at home, their last chance to play in front of their fans and more than likely players will be rested for the playoffs.

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Originally Posted by Purple Haze

I said just as likely, not MORE likely. An injury can come at any time.

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It still makes no sense.

I can step outside in a storm for one second and get struck by lightning but it's more likely to happen if I stand out in it for an hour. I could be on the freeway for half a mile and get nailed by an eighteen wheeler but with every additional mile I drive it grows more likely. It's pretty basic statistics logic.

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Originally Posted by -jlam-

It still makes no sense.

I can step outside in a storm for one second and get struck by lightning but it's more likely to happen if I stand out in it for an hour. I could be on the freeway for half a mile and get nailed by an eighteen wheeler but with every additional mile I drive it grows more likely. It's pretty basic statistics logic.

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Obviously more minutes -> more chances logically, but all I'm saying is that it doesn't always boil down to statistics. Like you said, you could never ride the bus in your life and the first time you step foot on one it drives off a cliff. You just never know and AD needs the experience.

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Originally Posted by AUSSIE_PELICAN

I really think the SAC will win their last game of the year against the Crappers.
Its at home, their last chance to play in front of their fans and more than likely players will be rested for the playoffs.

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Off topic, but I'm hoping the Kings stay in Sacramento. Sure, Seattle should have a team, but let them get one via expansion. I just hate to see cities lose their teams and Sac-town has been a really good basketball city for most of the time the Kings have been there. Now that they seem to have a comparable deal in place the team should stay there.

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Originally Posted by Purple Haze

Obviously more minutes -> more chances logically, but all I'm saying is that it doesn't always boil down to statistics. Like you said, you could never ride the bus in your life and the first time you step foot on one it drives off a cliff. You just never know and AD needs the experience.

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I actually agree with your conclusion. I don't want to sit Davis, either. Both because I think he's getting valuable developmental minutes (notice that his role on offense has been expanded a lot these last several weeks) and because I selfishly need a reason to GAF about tuning into the league pass package that gets me subtly nagged at on the 23rd of every month.

Just letting you know that basing the argument on the premise that a person is "just as likely" to get hurt in 10 minutes as in 30 minutes isn't a good way to go about framing it.

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Originally Posted by Gumbo Jackson

Off topic, but I'm hoping the Kings stay in Sacramento.

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Not looking good for Sac-Town. Lost one of its key investors before the groups pitch.

Source: http://www.sacbee.com/2013/04/09/532...cramentos.html

Bledsoe
Oladipo
Webster
Davis
Sanders

Tied for 5th with Detroit

April 11th

I think 3 would be perfect, but 5 would be second-best. They'd have their pick of Oladipo or Burke or even Bennett at 5.

I don't know about you guys but I'm tired of talking about the draft from March through June. Can't wait until we make the playoffs an discuss who we'll play against.

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Originally Posted by Purple Haze

I think 3 would be perfect, but 5 would be second-best. They'd have their pick of Oladipo or Burke or even Bennett at 5.

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How would Bennett fit in with this team though? Isn't he pretty much a pure 4?

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Originally Posted by donato

How would Bennett fit in with this team though? Isn't he pretty much a pure 4?

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He doesn't and yeah he is, but he may be BPA on their board, who knows. Probably not but that's why I included him there.

fair enough.