Broussard: Hornets Gauging Interest in Gordon {merged all of Gordon rumors}

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Originally Posted by PELICANSFAN

I think it would be several years before GS could trade a 1st rounder. Without Barnes thrown in, I would have to pass.

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Couldn't agree more.

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Originally Posted by Eman5805

If we make this move, I'll be surprised.

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Agree with this too.

Just wanted to point this out, but if we do Gordon for Thompson, I'm pretty sure we'd have the tallest starting line up by far.

Vasquez 6'6
Thompson 6'7
Aminu 6'9
Davis 6'11
Lopez 7'

TL;DR -> They love Draymond coming off the bench for their team

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Originally Posted by Bee-Fense

Just wanted to point this out, but if we do Gordon for Thompson, I'm pretty sure we'd have the tallest starting line up by far.

Vasquez 6'6
Thompson 6'7
Aminu 6'9
Davis 6'11
Lopez 7'

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This says we're already the tallest (by a smidgen) right now. Thompson would no doubt bring that height up.

http://hoopspeak.com/2013/02/does-size-really-matter/

Reading NBA writer tweets on hoops hype, and everyone is blasting GS for even thinking about trading Klay for Gordon. Maybe we value Gordon to much?

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Originally Posted by GeauxPelicans

Reading NBA writer tweets on hoops hype, and everyone is blasting GS for even thinking about trading Klay for Gordon. Maybe we value Gordon to much?

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What's this we stuff?

http://bleacherreport.com/articles/1...or-eric-gordon

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Originally Posted by Eman5805

What's this we stuff?

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Word...as of right now they are averaging around the same amount of pts. Difference is Thompson has played all 53 games....Gordon has played 19. Another plus is that Thompson is a much better 3pt shooter.

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Originally Posted by GeauxPelicans

Reading NBA writer tweets on hoops hype, and everyone is blasting GS for even thinking about trading Klay for Gordon. Maybe we value Gordon to much?

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Gordon still isn't playing back to backs, he has a lot of games to play before he shakes the soft/injury prone label with the media. GMs considering a trade for Gordon will no doubt get access to more information about Gordon's condition than the number of games played.

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Originally Posted by Eman5805

What's this we stuff?

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We, as in Pelicans fans. Maybe we should b happy with Klay/Rich Jefferson?

From Sam Amico of Fox Sports Ohio:

Sam Amico ‏@SamAmicoFSO
FYI: Source says trade talks involving Hornets G Eric Gordon and Warriors G Klay Thompson are at "more than exploratory" stage.

https://twitter.com/SamAmicoFSO/stat...98433991307264

and later:

Sam Amico ‏@SamAmicoFSO
Yes. First reported by @JohnReidTP of Times-Picayune. RT @JonesOnTheNBA: This Golden State acquiring Eric Gordon rumor have legs?

Has legs, but a bum knee

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Originally Posted by GeauxPelicans

We, as in Pelicans fans. Maybe we should b happy with Klay/Rich Jefferson?

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All the talk of them adding Barnes and others are pipe dreams. A lot of people are overrating Gordon's value at this point. We'd be lucky to get Klay/Jefferson for Gordon. I don't think GS will do it. Our best bet is somehow for the remainder of the season Gordon plays well enough, or even sometime before the trade deadline next year he's healthy and plays well and we get some sort of value. He's dangerously close to just being a flat-out bad contract / unproductive player. He has very little value IMO. I hope I'm wrong, but that seems to be what other people think who aren't Hornets fans.

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Originally Posted by IamQuailman

Has legs, but a bum knee

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http://gifrific.com/wp-content/uploa...the-office.gif

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Originally Posted by IamQuailman

Has legs, but a bum knee

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:hihi:

Uggghhhhhhh, we can gauge all of the other stats fairly objectively, but how do we gauge injury potentiality ughgughgughgghg.

I don't understand the rush to get rid of him... we aren't making the playoffs, we're selling low, and we aren't facing salary cap problems. the guy isn't cleared to play back-to-backs still so it's a bad time for his stock. it's giving austin extra minutes, we'd have to take back a bad contract to match salaries most likely and this team is still a .500 team while he's on the floor and no where close to .500 when he's sitting. see where we fall in the draft, possible free agents and then if anything wait til next deadline to trade him. no reason to rush the gun on a team not going anywhere this season

WAIT he's basing it off of a rumor started by John Reid?


:hihi: :hihi: :hihi:

^ Yeah and the longer we wait the chances of him totally blowing his knee out increase. Unfortunately.

I would rather have Barnes than Thompson in that deal, but can't complain, that trade is great. I hope we can pull it off.

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Originally Posted by AD23nEG10

I don't understand the rush to get rid of him... we aren't making the playoffs, we're selling low, and we aren't facing salary cap problems. the guy isn't cleared to play back-to-backs still so it's a bad time for his stock. it's giving austin extra minutes, we'd have to take back a bad contract to match salaries most likely and this team is still a .500 team while he's on the floor and no where close to .500 when he's sitting. see where we fall in the draft, possible free agents and then if anything wait til next deadline to trade him. no reason to rush the gun on a team not going anywhere this season

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this.

we can talk all we want on message boards and propose trades all we want and it won't make a hill of beans. Even the very scant "rumors" that have been tweeted out by "insiders" all have come with a disclaimer: "there is no chance that this actually happens."

Dell is too smart to give up Eric Gordon for nothing right now.

Getting Thompson back is far from nothing.

It's simple for me. Do the Hornets have faith in his ability to stay healthy?

If the answer is yes, keep him. If it's no, then move him.

While I don't feel like Dell needs to force a trade I'm not sold that waiting will increase Gordon's value. If his play isn't up to par(for whatever reason) or God forbid he gets hurt again his value will most certainly go down. If we can get a solid offer before the deadline personally I would sell now rather than wait for Gordon to get healthy and/or playing at a high level before pulling the trigger.

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Originally Posted by AD23forMVP

Getting Thompson back is far from nothing.

It's simple for me. Do the Hornets have faith in his ability to stay healthy?

If the answer is yes, keep him. If it's no, then move him.

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This

Barnes. No Barnes, no happy 42. I'd rather keep Gordon in that case.

Keep Thompson if need be.

There is little doubt in my mind that we are building around Anthony Davis. Klay Thompson is not as good as Eric Gordon, but he can stretch a defense, and doesn't have a long history of injuries. Taking Klay, Jefferson or Biedrins, plus another cheap player would be a step in the right direction for this rebuild. Everyone discounts the importance of stability and chemistry on a team, Gordon offers neither of those with his poor PR skills and talent for injury. If you can get rid of him now, when his value is arguably higher than it may ever be again, then you have a bad contract for, at most, a season and a half rather than three more seasons. Klay, when it's time to re-up him, won't command a high price (barring the unexpected in his development), thus allowing the team to continue to build around Davis. There are just so many layers to this potential move. The present may be saying that this is a bad move right now, but the future is screaming to make this move before it's too late.

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Originally Posted by Zach Leto

There is little doubt in my mind that we are building around Anthony Davis. Klay Thompson is not as good as Eric Gordon, but he can stretch a defense, and doesn't have a long history of injuries. Taking Klay, Jefferson or Biedrins, plus another cheap player would be a step in the right direction for this rebuild. Everyone discounts the importance of stability and chemistry on a team, Gordon offers neither of those with his poor PR skills and talent for injury. If you can get rid of him now, when his value is arguably higher than it may ever be again, then you have a bad contract for, at most, a season and a half rather than three more seasons. Klay, when it's time to re-up him, won't command a high price (barring the unexpected in his development), thus allowing the team to continue to build around Davis. There are just so many layers to this potential move. The present may be saying that this is a bad move right now, but the future is screaming to make this move before it's too late.

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This.....

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Originally Posted by Zach Leto

There is little doubt in my mind that we are building around Anthony Davis. Klay Thompson is not as good as Eric Gordon, but he can stretch a defense, and doesn't have a long history of injuries. Taking Klay, Jefferson or Biedrins, plus another cheap player would be a step in the right direction for this rebuild. Everyone discounts the importance of stability and chemistry on a team, Gordon offers neither of those with his poor PR skills and talent for injury. If you can get rid of him now, when his value is arguably higher than it may ever be again, then you have a bad contract for, at most, a season and a half rather than three more seasons. Klay, when it's time to re-up him, won't command a high price (barring the unexpected in his development), thus allowing the team to continue to build around Davis. There are just so many layers to this potential move. The present may be saying that this is a bad move right now, but the future is screaming to make this move before it's too late.

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Hell of a post :clap:

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Originally Posted by Zach Leto

There is little doubt in my mind that we are building around Anthony Davis. Klay Thompson is not as good as Eric Gordon, but he can stretch a defense, and doesn't have a long history of injuries. Taking Klay, Jefferson or Biedrins, plus another cheap player would be a step in the right direction for this rebuild. Everyone discounts the importance of stability and chemistry on a team, Gordon offers neither of those with his poor PR skills and talent for injury. If you can get rid of him now, when his value is arguably higher than it may ever be again, then you have a bad contract for, at most, a season and a half rather than three more seasons. Klay, when it's time to re-up him, won't command a high price (barring the unexpected in his development), thus allowing the team to continue to build around Davis. There are just so many layers to this potential move. The present may be saying that this is a bad move right now, but the future is screaming to make this move before it's too late.

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Dammit, now I'm going to be disappointed when this trade doesn't go through

Glad someone beat me to the whole team chemistry bit.

Got mentioned a couple times and it baffled me how anyone could think the low key, mostly aloof Gordon was critical to team chemistry. You'd have something a point about Vasquez or Jason Smith or even Aminu. But Gordon? He cheers but...he's so wooden and subdued. Nothing wrong with that, but team chemistry for a guy who everyone knows will play at most only 65% of games? And in those 6 games in 10 night deals, he'll only play in 3 of them.

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Originally Posted by Zach Leto

There is little doubt in my mind that we are building around Anthony Davis. Klay Thompson is not as good as Eric Gordon, but he can stretch a defense, and doesn't have a long history of injuries. Taking Klay, Jefferson or Biedrins, plus another cheap player would be a step in the right direction for this rebuild. Everyone discounts the importance of stability and chemistry on a team, Gordon offers neither of those with his poor PR skills and talent for injury. If you can get rid of him now, when his value is arguably higher than it may ever be again, then you have a bad contract for, at most, a season and a half rather than three more seasons. Klay, when it's time to re-up him, won't command a high price (barring the unexpected in his development), thus allowing the team to continue to build around Davis. There are just so many layers to this potential move. The present may be saying that this is a bad move right now, but the future is screaming to make this move before it's too late.

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While a lot of this is correct and you make good points, you are talking about trading Gordon for a role player, and that isn't how you make a championship team. Gordon, when healthy (yes, unfortunately, this is the common aside when mentioning his name), is one of the best SGs in the game. **insert poster who talks about his below average season so far** Well, sir, I have to say that it is to be expected that Gordon would have a down year after missing almost 2 years of basketball reps. I'd also say that a down year for Gordon still has him averaging almost 17 points a game on top of his injuries.

It all boils down to this:

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Originally Posted by AD23forMVP

Getting Thompson back is far from nothing.

It's simple for me. Do the Hornets have faith in his ability to stay healthy?

If the answer is yes, keep him. If it's no, then move him.

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Couldn't have said it better myself.

I hope Gordon puts up 50 points in his next game, so the team can see what he can do, and keep him.

Does anyone really have any faith the Hornets can pull off this trade? I watch so many other teams make moves at this time of year to hopefully improve their teams. I just don't see where any other GM's take Demps seriously because we always hear rumors of talk and never see anything come of it. I recommend no one hold their breathe on this even coming remotely close to happening. I would love to eat crow and get Gordon out of here with this trade but in my mind it will never happen.

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Originally Posted by BuzzmanD

Does anyone really have any faith the Hornets can pull off this trade? I watch so many other teams make moves at this time of year to hopefully improve their teams. I just don't see where any other GM's take Demps seriously because we always hear rumors of talk and never see anything come of it. I recommend no one hold their breathe on this even coming remotely close to happening. I would love to eat crow and get Gordon out of here with this trade but in my mind it will never happen.

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I, personally, don't think it's going to happen. Also, quite a few of Demps' trades have come when you've heard absolutely nothing at all about it (i.e. Ryan Anderson). I don't think him shipping Emeka and Trevor away was totally expected either. GM's take each other seriously. It's the media talking heads that we shouldn't always take seriously.

This would be great if it happens. Make it happen Demps!

I honestly don’t think the Hornets will make any moves before the deadline.

I'm in two minds about trading Gordon + our 2013 pick.
If it's just for Klay, Barnes, Biedrins, then why does this trade have to happen this year?

I say we let Gordon get healthy and then evaluate the team next season.
It's a 50/50....we either get better trade value or he gets injured again.
That's life!

This team needs to keep the 2013 pick and draft a PG/SG (depends where Rivers ends up playing) or a SF depending what happens with Aminu.
This team needs to play together with the right pieces for more than 50 games.
Hell they haven’t played with the same starting five more than 20 games……let alone for 2 games in a row.

I’m hoping this will be the team to start next season:

Out: Roberts, Henry & possibly Mason.
In: Budinger, 2013 pick and Aminu (new contract).

Vasquez/Rivers
Gordon/2013 pick/Mason (for veteran leadership)
Budinger/Aminu/Miller
Davis/Anderson/Thomas
Lopez/Smith

Then we can make some big trades in next year’s deadline to shake things up.
Barnes and Klay will still be there!

They will still be there, sure. Doesn't mean they will be available. Especially if they continue to develop.

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Originally Posted by nolaslim213

While a lot of this is correct and you make good points, you are talking about trading Gordon for a role player, and that isn't how you make a championship team. Gordon, when healthy (yes, unfortunately, this is the common aside when mentioning his name), is one of the best SGs in the game. **insert poster who talks about his below average season so far** Well, sir, I have to say that it is to be expected that Gordon would have a down year after missing almost 2 years of basketball reps. I'd also say that a down year for Gordon still has him averaging almost 17 points a game on top of his injuries.

It all boils down to this:



Couldn't have said it better myself.

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Hi5 dude. A bad out of shape Gordon is still better than what the Warriors trade would land. I just don't understand the rush to trade him.

Does anybody think Dell will make any deals not including EG tomorrow?

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Originally Posted by Tim Floyd

Does anybody think Dell will make any deals not including EG tomorrow?

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I said before the Warriors stuff dropped, I'll say it now. Ultimately, I don't think we make any deals between now and tomorrow.

The trades will probably occur in the offseason. Especially after (or during) the draft.

I doubt anything happens tomorrow... its fun to speculate and discuss though.

I heard a rumor. Is it true?

you're fired

Always one

*sigh* Lemme try again.

It's true that there's a rumor.

Location: How far over the Hill are you?....LOL

Klay Thompson is up and coming and if all it costs to land us is Gordon and taking Jeffersons contract the. Sign me the hell up. Gordon WILL always be injured. At least with Jefferson you will get solid veteran leadership, and a guy who won't miss games. With Landing Klay you have taken care of your sg/sf position for a while and you can focus that draft pick on a pg or BPA.

For the guys that continue to say wait for Gordon to get healthy and then trade him, I say who is to say he will ever be healthy as long as he is apart of this team. So we either gamble now and get a solid player or we wait and possibly cannot move him at all. If he requires Micro Fracture surgery on his knee then this franchise is screwed for years to come. I have little faith Dell can pull anything off before the trade deadline but in my opinion I think we should be happy just to remove him and his salary for little or nothing. Find guys that want to play here, not some head case like we are dealing now. So do you really want to gamble keeping him around and have him come down with another injury that we all know could happen at any moment or do you cut bait, gain a solid player and have a ton of money to throw at some free agents thus summer and as we'll as add a top 10 pick?

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Originally Posted by BuzzmanD

For the guys that continue to say wait for Gordon to get healthy and then trade him, I say who is to say he will ever be healthy as long as he is apart of this team. So we either gamble now and get a solid player or we wait and possibly cannot move him at all. If he requires Micro Fracture surgery on his knee then this franchise is screwed for years to come. I have little faith Dell can pull anything off before the trade deadline but in my opinion I think we should be happy just to remove him and his salary for little or nothing. Find guys that want to play here, not some head case like we are dealing now. So do you really want to gamble keeping him around and have him come down with another injury that we all know could happen at any moment or do you cut bait, gain a solid player and have a ton of money to throw at some free agents thus summer and as we'll as add a top 10 pick?

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I find this funny. Guy says his heats in Phoenix and now he's a head case?

Ric Bucher‏@RicBucher

Close the door on Eric Gordon going to the Warriors for now, but don't nail it shut. As good as the Warriors have http://sulia.com/my_thoughts/27353fd...source=twitter …