Good pick. I was looking at him as a possible choice. He is young and incredibly immature, and his shot selection sucks, but his talent is undeniable. I wouldn't want him to lead my team, but in the right locker room, he could be a great talent.
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Good pick. I was looking at him as a possible choice. He is young and incredibly immature, and his shot selection sucks, but his talent is undeniable. I wouldn't want him to lead my team, but in the right locker room, he could be a great talent.
Get the elite young talent now, and the good veteran leadership later.
That's my strategy anyway.
I have 3 early second rounders and an early 4th if anyone is looking to make a deal.
Official Trade
hornetstime247 gets
2(45)
3
4 (93)
5
7
Bee-Fence gets:
2(25)
4(76)
8
9,9
78, if you want, you can have my team. I have Rondo, so I'm not sure if you like how I started the team, but you can probably turn it around. :)
Where's rbow?
hornetstime, i hope your sending your trades to rbow aswell
****TRADE ALERT****
Nolaslim213 has sent his 1st round pick (#24 overall), his 4th round pick (#73 overall), and his 7th round pick (From Detriot via Kaitos) to SharlieCheen in exchange for Derrick Rose.
I made a thread asking if you guys wanted to make this a keeper-league where we keep some players we draft and maybe do a rookie draft, but it didnt get many replies so I just kept it 1 year
Sorry kaitos but those trades are awful, I wanted to be a fair/easy going commish but those trades make the other teams stacked, and you should be able to get much better value than what you got
I think I'm going to have to veto..should I make a poll?
so you both have Derrick Rose? and rbow vetoing kaitos' trade? CHAOS!
Hey rbow, delete your inbox.
rbow, i suggest you make another thread for the 2nd round
damn i wanna keeper league, which actually sounds like a sim league
like I said to nolaslim in a PM:
the general opinion is that Westbrook>Gay, and he took a pick 2 rounds lower. Then he traded Gay for a bunch of picks, when he could've traded Westbrook for more, I'm sorry bro there is 0 logic in that, he might as well have 3 accounts.
I wanted this to be a who can draft the best team competition, not who can rip off Kaitos first
so what happens now?
Not to be a pain but i suppose to gt 2 3 rounders from
Hornets247 this is the trade. Trell get(CAVS
2 3rd rounders
6
7
Hornettime247 receives
2,9,11,12
Waiting for the approval.
As i said im not mad at all.
But thanks for the league bro, im really enjoying myself until lottery night! :)
Your inbox was full!
You did get both 3rd rounders according to the chart
oh crap im on the clock, sorry didnt get a PM, gimme a mintue thanks
before i make my pick can someone tell me if we plan on after this is over also drafting the first round of this years draft class, also if this is just for THIS year or this will be a continued franchise type of deal because then i will take into account age
oh yea I made everyone's name in the 1st round a link to their inbox so you can message them easier
Trell you did get both 3rds, and i'll clear my inbox in a sec
i'm also looking to land another 2nd round pick, so if anyone wants my 1st rounder, or wants to give up their 2nd rounder for additional picks, message me! Thank you
This is complete BS, and I resent that. I would never rip someone off. Kaitos told me he wanted middle-round picks, so that's what I offered. He is a grown *** man who can make his own decisions, and just because you don't think it's a good trade doesn't mean that it is a bad one. Real GMs in real life make bad trades all the time. Everyone is a grown adult here, and they should be able to make their own decisions.
I need to know what is going on because I am in limbo with 2 different deals as of right now. A little more organization would be appreciated.
Everyone other than you and Trell, who benefited from his trades, seems to think so, go back and read the posts. You pretty much got 1st for a 3rd
He can build his team like that if he wants but dont make trades so lopsided it makes it unfair to everyone else in the draft, I guarantee he can much better value for what he gave up
Seems like the only person still complaining is you. Everyone else accepted it and moved on, until you brought it up again. We are grown men here, and we can make our own decisions. And I already told you, Rudy Gay is a 2nd round talent. I traded a 3rd, a 6th, and an 8th, which close to a 2nd round value - and that is what he wanted anyway (middle round picks). Who are you to tell him that his strategy sucks?
Also, you never said anything about the commissioner having to sign off on all trades. Why are you stepping in now?
It is all supposed to be a game, and wheeling and dealing is part of that. If we were just making straight up picks with no trades, then this stuff would be boring. Strategy comes into play, and people have different strategies. Who are you to decide who's strategy is best? You are taking the fun out of this, and that is all I'm saying on the matter.
I'm complaining, I tried to be civil with you, you said his first two trades were terrible yourself. Rbow is right 100% and you would have agreed if it weren't for your trade
everyone already said what they had to, sorry I wasnt on to complain with them at the same time?
Cuz it gives you an unfair advantage which could screw over everyone else in the league, which makes it unfair and less fun. I'm just trying to do whats fair for the league
I just told u why his strategy is complete ****. If he had any clue what he was doing he would've tried to get more for Westbrook
Sorry for not anticipating someone to have that bad of a strategy
You stopped complaining earlier. Now you started up again. But really, it is only you and rbow. Stop crying dude. Maybe you should be PMing more people and trying to get better picks like I was doing.
As I said above, half of this battle is wheeling and dealing. I pick at the very end of the draft, and I didn't complain once about it. In fact, I accepted it as a challenge, so I started talking with people about moving around. If I didn't seek out trades, I would automatically have the worst team in this game. How are you going to tell me that all the work I put into trying to improve my roster is moot because you think the trade was bad? That's messed up.
Kaitos is a grown man, and he can make his own decisions. Stop *****ing and moaning. Start checking around for trades, and try to improve your own team.
is this for this year or will it be a continued franchise? thanks, basing my pick off of this, also if anyone wants my pick lemme know
This is Grade A BS. These 2 posters said it best:
You and BeeBall Reasons are acting like a couple of punks who are upset because you guys chose not to check around for good trade opportunities. Be a man. Stop crying. Complete the deals, since you are the commissioner, and let's move on from this.
the fact that Kaitos traded the 15th pick and the 58th pick for the 17th and the 120th proves that he has no idea what he is doing. PERIOD. There is no way around that fact. I stopped complaining because no one was backing me so i gave up. If rbow wanted to he could have given himself the 1st pick but no, he and i are both more interested in fairness then ourselves. Can you say the same?
and no one has been so stingy and complaining about rules other than you, I thought this would just be a relaxed thing with no complaining, and if any problems came up I would just ask everyone's opinion, and the majority hates kaitos' trades
I am considering letting it go, BUT I would assign a co-GM to kaitos to help him make these decisions from now on
Rudy Gay shouldn't have been picked 15th anyway - that is why the original guy who picked him traded him to Kaitos. Then Kaitos didn't want him anymore, so I took him at a reduced rate. Nothing wrong with that. He is a mid-second round pick, and that is the value that I exchanged with him.
If that is the way you want to play it, then fine. I was hoping to have fun with this too, and I was having a lot of fun before all of this mess happened. Now, I can't even make my pick next because I agreed on a trade with SharlieCheen that hasn't even been ruled on yet.
If you want me to drop, I will. Just let me know. But I would never take advantage of someone, especially not to win some silly game. I got that trade because I love doing this kind of stuff - wheeling and dealing. Why do you think I am always messing with the trademachine? Love it. This was fun for me. Now it is turning viral.
Westbrook was the 15th pick Gay was the 17th
Well I mean if I let it go then the rest of the league might come calling for my head so its not that easy of a decision
Its not just your trade but what about the one where he traded the better player and the MUCH better pick.
Personally for me it was definitely unfair, but I'm confident I can still win and I could live with it
The rest of the league was okay with it, except for BeeBall Reasons. 1 guy out of 24.
I understand your predicament, but all you can do now is install new rules for the rest of the rounds. What's done is done. Let's just move forward.
Also, that last sentence seems to echo what the majority of the posters in this game think, so it seems like an easy decision to move forward.
Shouldn't have allowed trading. What a mess.
lol, no surprise nolaslim is part of a lopsided trade. (referring to the infamous trade proposals that have been posted)
I don't get the Rose trade.. That's the one that stands out to me. Is a 4th rounder really enough to get Rose instead of getting whoever is left at the end of the 1st round?
Also, I think both traders should have to message rbow before being 100% completed. He can then say if the trade is good for approval.