Pelicans looking to get a top 5 pick?

I would like to keep our core 4 but if you can get Embiid I'd trade anyone but Jrue and Davis.

I don't think we really have a core 4 yet. Until they have some success together, it's too early to say anyone is part of a "core". We have Davis, Jrue, and assets. If Dell loves Vonleh or Embiid, you gotta use those assets to go get the player.

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Originally Posted by tdcreator

I would like to keep our core 4 but if you can get Embiid I'd trade anyone but Jrue and Davis.

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I'd rather keep Evans than Jrue.

I don't think (or at least hope) Jrue will be dealt come draft day. I think he's way to valuable to our team to let him go. He's the only PG on the team outside of maybe Evans or Rivers if you want to call them that. Wouldn't it be awesome if Dell can somehow deal Gordon for a late first round draft pick.

how good do you guys think Vonleh could be? I didnt see him play but I've seen alot of people comparing him to Taj Gibson (who I would never take in the top 5)

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Originally Posted by NMThreeMVP

I don't think we really have a core 4 yet. Until they have some success together, it's too early to say anyone is part of a "core". We have Davis, Jrue, and assets. If Dell loves Vonleh or Embiid, you gotta use those assets to go get the player.

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Can someone enlighten me on how Conley would fit on this team? Serious, not trying to be a jerk about it, but I don't see why we'd actively go after him when we have AD.

Jrue, Tryeke, Ryno, and Davis are players you can win games with. Now I'd love for Rivers and Ryno to be first off the bench and Ryno to be in at crunch time.

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Originally Posted by IamQuailman

Can someone enlighten me on how Conley would fit on this team? Serious, not trying to be a jerk about it, but I don't see why we'd actively go after him when we have AD.

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Why would having AD, preclude the Pellies from going after a frontcourt player with the ability to play PF or C?

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Originally Posted by tdcreator

Jrue, Tryeke, Ryno, and Davis are players you can win games with. Now I'd love for Rivers and Ryno to be first off the bench and Ryno to be in at crunch time.

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You can win games with any combination of players acquired over the next 2 years ...and Jrue and Davis.

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Originally Posted by NMThreeMVP

Why would having AD, preclude the Pellies from going after a frontcourt player with the ability to play PF or C?

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Right, but why would you want to draft a guy who plays the same position as AD (a big argument for those wanting to trade Ryno because he's backing up AD)

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Originally Posted by IamQuailman

Right, but why would you want to draft a guy who plays the same position as AD (a big argument for those wanting to trade Ryno because he's backing up AD)

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Vonleh can play Center, Ryan Anderson can not.

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Originally Posted by NMThreeMVP

Vonleh can play Center, Ryan Anderson can not.

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Can he?!?!

I hope the draft gets here soon, my head is spinning reading all of these possibilities. How can there be so many options without a draft pick? Although I hope someone would give up a lot for one of the Pelicans player or two.

Vonleh is projecting more as a stretch big on the offensive end who could defend centers on the other end. Think Derrick Favors but more perimeter oriented if he pans out.

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Originally Posted by MichaelMcNamara

Vonleh is projecting more as a stretch big on the offensive end who could defend centers on the other end. Think Derrick Favors but more perimeter oriented if he pans out.

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Would J J Hickson be a bad comparison?

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Originally Posted by MichaelMcNamara

Vonleh is projecting more as a stretch big on the offensive end who could defend centers on the other end. Think Derrick Favors but more perimeter oriented if he pans out.

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...and doesn't that sound like an awesome guy to put next to AD?!

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Originally Posted by IamQuailman

Would J J Hickson be a bad comparison?

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Yes. Hickson more athletic (despite what combine numbers say) but Vonleh plays with better IQ and is a much better shooter than Hickson coming out. Also, will be much bigger. Probably finishes around 6'10", 260-265. Offensive game, again if it develops (I am not a believer) will probably be similar to Milsap. Can post a bit, can drive, and has perimeter game that I think he likes too much.

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Originally Posted by NMThreeMVP

...and doesn't that sound like an awesome guy to put next to AD?!

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If he hits, yes.

I am not a believer, though. But yes, in the universe where he maximizes his potential, he would be close to an ideal fit.

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Originally Posted by MichaelMcNamara

If he hits, yes.

I am not a believer, though. But yes, in the universe where he maximizes his potential, he would be close to an ideal fit.

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So if Dell believes, wouldn't he try to move heaven and earth to make this pairing happen and have his ideal frontcourt for the next 15 years?! Wouldn't it make sense if he was offering up anything outside of Davis and Jrue?

People always say good GMs don't worry about whether or not they're going to be around for the fruits of their labor to pay off... They just make the best moves. Maybe Dell is a good GM.

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Originally Posted by IamQuailman

6'9" .... I dunno if I'd want him playing center. Unless you are saying he'd be able to play the 3?

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Na i was on the phone so i couldn't do into detail

He could play PF or C, he is 6'9.5" and has a 7'5" wing span. He is also a freshman and will prob grow another inch.

He was the best rebounder in the country this year, if he put on 15 pounds and grew another inch he would be 6"11 260 and I think he could play center easily. Right now his best position is at PF though.

The Magic could have as much as $33m in cap space, before any rumored trades of Aaron Afflalo that could clear additional salary.

If Dell calls Orlando and offers Rivers, Anderson, Gordon, and a top five protected 2015 pick and an unprotected 2017 pick, for the #4 pick, how does Orlando respond?

They're not a playoff team next season, I doubt they're going to be free agent players, they've got 2 lottery picks in this draft, and they already have a bunch of really young guys.

If Dell believes he is the ideal fit, then yes, it would make sense for him to do anything to go get him. But by pulling Jrue and AD out of the equation you are pulling out the only two assets that can get you in the top 5. Therein lies the rub.

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Originally Posted by donato

I'd rather keep Evans than Jrue.

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Why? Jrue can do everything Tyreke can but is a better shooter and defender?

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Originally Posted by NMThreeMVP

The Magic could have as much as $33m in cap space, before any rumored trades of Aaron Afflalo that could clear additional salary.

If Dell calls Orlando and offers Rivers, Anderson, Gordon, and a top five protect 2015 pick and an unprotected 2017 pick, for the #4 pick, how does Orlando respond?

They're not a playoff team next season, I doubt they're going to be free agent players, they've got 2 lottery picks in this draft, and they already have a bunch of really young guys.

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They say no in a millisecond and then tells us not to call back with practical jokes any more because they are busy.

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Originally Posted by IamQuailman

Would J J Hickson be a bad comparison?

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If you watch him play Vonleh is a brute, he constantly puts Bigs in foul trouble because he just bullies them, he isn't a great shot blocker because he isn't too athletic but his post defense is to be reckoned with, it would go very well with AD.

He kind of reminds me of a sack randolph but with defense, but thats just me...