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05-14-2013, 10:47 PM
HornetGuru

deandre was compared to dwight coming into the draft because of his size, athleticism and quickness.
05-14-2013, 10:49 PM
Snarly

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Originally Posted by HornetGuru

deandre was compared to dwight coming into the draft because of his size, athleticism and quickness.

What's your point? Those comparisons are dubious as most draft comparisons are. When you compare two NBA players and their ability to affect the game at the same level playing field, There's no more need to project.
05-14-2013, 10:52 PM
HornetGuru

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Originally Posted by Nola Hornet

What's your point? Those comparisons are dubious as most draft comparisons are. When you compare two NBA players and their ability to affect the game at the same level playing field, There's no more need to project.

Didn't have a point, i was just telling everyone who his comparison was to because people were talking about his comparisons. Slow your roll, my post wasn't addressed to you slick.
05-14-2013, 10:55 PM
NMThreeMVP

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Originally Posted by Nola Hornet

He can play in the 4th quarter and can hit free throws. He's also one of the smartest defensive players in the league. And coaches and players have came out on more than one occasion to praise his basketball IQ. Now if you keep wanting to look at stats and use that as your sole barometer then go ahead. But no one in their right minds will ever use such comparison for Jordan.

Smartest defensive players in the league!???? Really? Based on what? Same goes for these anonymous basketball people who praise his IQ... Who are they?!!

Gordon can't play in 4th qtr or hit free throws dressed in penny loafers, skinny jeans and a bad sports coat!

..or from his sofa while he tweets about college games.
05-14-2013, 10:57 PM
NMThreeMVP

Now what I have heard from players, coaches and GM's is that Gordon is sensitive, unprofessional and injured a lot.
05-14-2013, 10:59 PM
Snarly

Why do you keep bringing up Gordon in your responses to me? Am I suppose to be a Gordon fanboy or something?
05-14-2013, 11:01 PM
LoCo89

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Originally Posted by NMThreeMVP

..or from his sofa while he tweets about college games.

Still hurts?
05-14-2013, 11:28 PM
NMThreeMVP

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Originally Posted by Nola Hornet

Why do you keep bringing up Gordon in your responses to me? Am I suppose to be a Gordon fanboy or something?

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Originally Posted by Nola Hornet

He can play in the 4th quarter and can hit free throws. He's also one of the smartest defensive players in the league. And coaches and players have came out on more than one occasion to praise his basketball IQ. Now if you keep wanting to look at stats and use that as your sole barometer then go ahead. But no one in their right minds will ever use such comparison for Jordan.

You tell me...

You seem to value Gordon a lot more than I do.

This thread is about a trade involving Gordon. You high opinion of him seems relevant.
05-14-2013, 11:30 PM
Snarly

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Originally Posted by NMThreeMVP

You tell me...

You seem to value Gordon a lot more than I do.

This thread is about a trade involving Gordon. You high opinion of him seems relevant.

Um... You asked what the difference is between Jordan and Chandler. And I answered. :idoh:
05-14-2013, 11:30 PM
NMThreeMVP

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Originally Posted by LoCo89

Gordon is still hurt?

Fixed that for you.
05-14-2013, 11:34 PM
NMThreeMVP

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Originally Posted by NMThreeMVP

I hear your opinion, but I don't see any fact. How is Jordan any different from Tyson Chandler at a similar stage in his career?

...The same knowledge "everyone and their mother.." has, could be said about Gordon's bad attitude and fragile body.

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Originally Posted by Nola Hornet

Um... You asked what the difference is between Jordan and Chandler. And I answered. :idoh:

You were replying to the first part of my post, and I thought you were replying to the 2nd part.

Honest mistake. My apologies.

That being said, I don't think anyone was praising a 24 year old Chandler the way you described.
05-14-2013, 11:35 PM
LoCo89

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Originally Posted by NMThreeMVP

Fixed that for you.

Im sorry, I was legitimately asking not being facetious. Seemed a weird place to bring it up I thought. Sorry it ruffled your feathers man forget I asked, cheers
05-14-2013, 11:59 PM
Topdawg26

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Originally Posted by HornetGuru

deandre was compared to dwight coming into the draft because of his size, athleticism and quickness.

Maybe coming into the draft but not anymore! Jordan doesn't have any offensive moves besides he can dunk, but neither does Dwight though honestly. I really don't think your upgrading the center position over Lopez with Jordan (not to mention Lopez ideal contract).
05-15-2013, 07:13 AM
da ThRONe

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Originally Posted by Topdawg26

Maybe coming into the draft but not anymore! Jordan doesn't have any offensive moves besides he can dunk, but neither does Dwight though honestly. I really don't think your upgrading the center position over Lopez with Jordan (not to mention Lopez ideal contract).

We have to gamble if we are going to win. This is a low risk medium reward move IMO. I don't think too many people believe Lopez even has the potential to be apart of a championship core. I think DeAndre at least has said potential even if he has digressed. He clearly has some moves and he started out the season displaying his new post skills. Not sure what went wrong.
05-15-2013, 11:35 AM
SportsPillowTlk

If Butler was an alternative rather than Jordan, I would do it in a heart beat.
05-15-2013, 12:13 PM
NMThreeMVP

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Originally Posted by SportsPillowTlk

If Butler was an alternative rather than Jordan, I would do it in a heart beat.

The money works on Butler, Green, and Bledsoe for Gordon. I'd do it. Butler is in the last year of a deal that pays him $8m. But he's washed up on the court, so he's really just a contract, whereas with Jordan he's only 24 and can get better.

I think Bledsoe can become a better player, professional, and leader than Gordon, so whatever needs to happen to swap those two players, I'm fine with it.
05-15-2013, 02:36 PM
Jabberwalker

I love this trade. DJ's contract is risky (awful if he doesn't develop) but I'd take it compared to Gordon's also risky (if he continues to be consistently injured) but more punitive horrible one. Bledsoe is a smart, athletic, 2 way player. After a year or two of running a team his experience will make him an even better floor general. He is tough and fits the scrappy young veteran mold.
Jordan also played incredibly well the first 10 or so games this season. I don't know what that says that he didn't continue but he showed that he is still developing. Most of all I like that he can start, play center, but isn't going to be on the floor at the end of games leaving Davis and Anderson on the floor which is how it should be. Even though he starts he's essentially a 3rd big. Even though we have to swallow some of his contract, this year his and Bledsoe's will combine for less than Gordon's. If we get Oladipo, McLemore, or Porter then I think this is a great idea.
The only I turn it down is if we get Noel or if Burke is the last option available.
05-15-2013, 03:00 PM
NMThreeMVP

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Originally Posted by Jabberwalker

I love this trade. DJ's contract is risky (awful if he doesn't develop) but I'd take it compared to Gordon's also risky (if he continues to be consistently injured) but more punitive horrible one. Bledsoe is a smart, athletic, 2 way player. After a year or two of running a team his experience will make him an even better floor general. He is tough and fits the scrappy young veteran mold.
Jordan also played incredibly well the first 10 or so games this season. I don't know what that says that he didn't continue but he showed that he is still developing. Most of all I like that he can start, play center, but isn't going to be on the floor at the end of games leaving Davis and Anderson on the floor which is how it should be. Even though he starts he's essentially a 3rd big. Even though we have to swallow some of his contract, this year his and Bledsoe's will combine for less than Gordon's. If we get Oladipo, McLemore, or Porter then I think this is a great idea.
The only I turn it down is if we get Noel or if Burke is the last option available.

If Burke is the only option left, we trade down an pick up more assets. Hopefully a pick in 2014 and a late lottery pick this year.
05-15-2013, 03:13 PM
HornetGuru

bledsoe
mclemore
budinger
davis
jordan

sick athleticism
05-15-2013, 03:28 PM
NMThreeMVP

Chad Ford said in his recent chat that he didn't think 14 and 21 would be enough for Utah to move into top 6 and grab Burke.

If we take care of our PG need with this trade, we could definitely give ourselves more flexibility and the option of fleecing a team like Utah for multiple picks.
05-15-2013, 03:32 PM
HornetGuru

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Originally Posted by NMThreeMVP

Chad Ford said in his recent chat that he didn't think 14 and 21 would be enough for Utah to move into top 6 and grab Burke.

If we take care of our PG need with this trade, we could definitely give ourselves more flexibility and the option of fleecing a team like Utah for multiple picks.

they can have our 1st this year and next year and greivis vasques for their 14, and 21 this year, alec burks, and their unprotected first next year. I'd do it.
05-15-2013, 03:37 PM
MMEmbreno

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Originally Posted by HornetGuru

they can have our 1st this year and next year and greivis vasques for their 14, and 21 this year, alec burks, and their unprotected first next year. I'd do it.

That would be an amazing trade for us if we gave them Gordon instead of our first next year, saved some more cap space for next offseason and maybe we end up with 2 top 10 picks in 2014 plus loads of cap space. That would be a scary team in 3 years with Davis nearing his potential by then bc we won't be able to afford Davis and Gordon at max contracts plus good assets, it won't happen.
05-15-2013, 03:56 PM
NMThreeMVP

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Originally Posted by HornetGuru

they can have our 1st this year and next year and greivis vasques for their 14, and 21 this year, alec burks, and their unprotected first next year. I'd do it.

I don't see any reason we'd have to throw in our first. If they want to swap out Burks for Vasquez, that's fine with me, but not necessary.

I'd take 14, 21, and a top 5 protected 2014 pick. Or 14 and an unprotected 2014 pick.

Definitely wouldn't give up our 2014 first to Utah under any circumstance.
05-15-2013, 05:08 PM
xulapaul

It's exciting to think of the possibilities as we get closer to the draft and free agency. If we end up with the 5th or 6th pick, I wouldn't be surprised to see Demps trade down to acquire more picks. Getting Utah's 14 & 21 plus another asset is an interesting possibility. If we did that deal, I'll bet one of the two picks would be a European player that could be stashed overseas. We need young talent, but we don't want half our roster to be 20 years old either.
05-15-2013, 05:09 PM
HornetGuru

well i would be fine with getting 14 and 21 and taking kaldwell pope at 14 and someone like saric or giannis at 21 then next year we could maybe draft parker or randle and harrison

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