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08-14-2021, 03:07 AM
Taker597

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Originally Posted by 13 - 3

Did y ‘all hear this story on Jason Kidd? Good thing we did not hire him

https://www.barstoolsports.com/blog/...s-fans-nervous

I read the new Giannis biography that is coming out tomorrow. My biggest takeaway is that Jason Kidd should not be be allowed to be around other people let alone coach an NBA team. The worst story is his response to a team loss on the day before Christmas Eve. pic.twitter.com/SYdwfX3t9t
— Dr. Elliot Kupferberg's Water Bottle (@FakeTJHawke) August 9, 2021

I saw that and that is a whole bunch of yikes.
08-14-2021, 09:37 AM
pelafanatic

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Originally Posted by Taker597

When you been a losing team for ten years and had to trade away 3 franchise players... It make plenty of sense. It's how the media portrays bad franchise that stay bad. Just don't take it personally and understand it goes away when we start winning.

My bad. I didn?t realize you were speaking from the media?s perspective. Now it makes sense lol
08-14-2021, 01:04 PM
13 - 3

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Originally Posted by Taker597

I saw that and that is a whole bunch of yikes.

I don ‘ t guess Reddick returns to Dallas. LOL , Can you imagine if Kidd brings his nutty behavior to that big mouth?
08-14-2021, 01:55 PM
Fedupfan

Sign JJ. Clearly the guy misses the Pels. :D
08-14-2021, 04:49 PM
msusousaphone

Bring J Reddik back.
08-15-2021, 07:18 PM
ozwego15

The Los Angeles Clippers are trading Patrick Beverley, Rajon Rondo and Daniel Oturu to the Memphis Grizzlies for guard Eric Bledsoe, sources tell ESPN.
— Adrian Wojnarowski (@wojespn) August 16, 2021
08-15-2021, 07:20 PM
PELSGIRL

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Originally Posted by ozwego15

The Los Angeles Clippers are trading Patrick Beverley, Rajon Rondo and Daniel Oturu to the Memphis Grizzlies for guard Eric Bledsoe, sources tell ESPN.
— Adrian Wojnarowski (@wojespn) August 16, 2021

Lol. Bad move on the clips part.
08-15-2021, 07:22 PM
RobertM320

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Originally Posted by ozwego15

The Los Angeles Clippers are trading Patrick Beverley, Rajon Rondo and Daniel Oturu to the Memphis Grizzlies for guard Eric Bledsoe, sources tell ESPN.
— Adrian Wojnarowski (@wojespn) August 16, 2021

Not sure how this benefits the Clips.
08-15-2021, 07:24 PM
ozwego15

i am surprised Bledsoe has that much value
08-15-2021, 07:26 PM
Taker597

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Originally Posted by RobertM320

Not sure how this benefits the Clips.

Lowers tax bill lol
08-15-2021, 07:26 PM
Eman5805

Since Bledsoe is alone, this a separate trade from us?
08-15-2021, 07:29 PM
PELSGIRL

Wait, so this is apart of our deal?
08-15-2021, 07:45 PM
Pelifan

think I would have preferred this deal for the Pels over the Memphis one. even if you keep none of those players
08-15-2021, 07:46 PM
As I See It

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Originally Posted by PELSGIRL

Lol. Bad move on the clips part.

Why didn't the Pels get in on this deal?
08-15-2021, 07:51 PM
PELSGIRL

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Originally Posted by As I See It

Why didn't the Pels get in on this deal?

That's what I'm wondering has the Memphis deal been finalized for us? Can we get in on this?
08-15-2021, 08:26 PM
Butters

Would the Pels have interest in Rondo or Beverly?
08-15-2021, 08:27 PM
bradael

Clippers probably wanted to wait to make sure Kawhi re-signed before they did this. They save like $30m in luxury tax with Kawhi probably out all this year.
08-15-2021, 10:35 PM
PELICANSFAN

Hopefully Griffin has something up his sleeve with the TPE. Otherwise, it could look bad that he could have gotten Rondo and Beverly for Bledsoe instead of giving up a 1st rounder to Memphis to take him. Rondo could have been our veteran presence in the locker room and we would not have had to spend $15 million on a 3 year deal for Temple. Beverly could have been a valuable PG who could instill a defensive mindset in our players and can hit the 3. So, it is really a matter of what Griffin does with the TPE the trade created to see if he made the right call.
08-15-2021, 10:40 PM
PELSGIRL

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Originally Posted by PELICANSFAN

Hopefully Griffin has something up his sleeve with the TPE. Otherwise, it could look bad that he could have gotten Rondo and Beverly for Bledsoe instead of giving up a 1st rounder to Memphis to take him. Rondo could have been our veteran presence in the locker room and we would not have had to spend $15 million on a 3 year deal for Temple. Beverly could have been a valuable PG who could instill a defensive mindset in our players and can hit the 3. So, it is really a matter of what Griffin does with the TPE the trade created to see if he made the right call.

So can we still get Bev or Rondo w/ the TPE created or no?
08-16-2021, 08:34 AM
PELICANSFAN

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Originally Posted by PELSGIRL

So can we still get Bev or Rondo w/ the TPE created or no?

Technically, one or the other. Not both. Do you think they would give us our 1st rounder back to take them?
08-16-2021, 09:19 AM
donato

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Originally Posted by PELICANSFAN

Hopefully Griffin has something up his sleeve with the TPE. Otherwise, it could look bad that he could have gotten Rondo and Beverly for Bledsoe instead of giving up a 1st rounder to Memphis to take him.

That wasn't the entirety of the trade though. We also got a significant upgrade going from Adams to Jonas and the 2 year contract Adams had for the expiring of Jonas.
08-16-2021, 10:03 AM
Pels4Life

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Originally Posted by ozwego15

The Los Angeles Clippers are trading Patrick Beverley, Rajon Rondo and Daniel Oturu to the Memphis Grizzlies for guard Eric Bledsoe, sources tell ESPN.
— Adrian Wojnarowski (@wojespn) August 16, 2021

I had to check if this was April the 1st when I first heard this news. Clips got clipped.
08-16-2021, 10:19 AM
PELICANSFAN

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Originally Posted by donato

That wasn't the entirety of the trade though. We also got a significant upgrade going from Adams to Jonas and the 2 year contract Adams had for the expiring of Jonas.

And we also dropped from 10 to 17 as a result of that.
08-16-2021, 10:28 AM
pelafanatic

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Originally Posted by PELICANSFAN

And we also dropped from 10 to 17 as a result of that.

And still got the player we wanted at 10. Who cares about Pat Beverly and Rondo? Didn't we learn our lesson with Bledsoe? Those guys wouldnt give a crap if they came to Nola. You guys really wanted to take on an additional 10 million in order to get off Bledsoe?
08-16-2021, 10:33 AM
Pels4Life

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Originally Posted by PELICANSFAN

And we also dropped from 10 to 17 as a result of that.

hindsight is 20/20
08-16-2021, 10:44 AM
PELICANSFAN

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Originally Posted by pelafanatic

And still got the player we wanted at 10. Who cares about Pat Beverly and Rondo? Didn't we learn our lesson with Bledsoe? Those guys wouldnt give a crap if they came to Nola. You guys really wanted to take on an additional 10 million in order to get off Bledsoe?

First, Langdon put that to rest. He even said he could not say that they would have taken Murphy at 10, but that they had him rated higher than 17. We had 2 other players above Murphy that we were targeting between 10 and 17 and both got taken. Would you take on Beverly and Rondo on expiring contracts for a 1st rounder? I would argue Rondo is a much better person to have on the bench and in the locker room than Temple as the veteran leader. So, there would have been no need to commit to a 3 years/$15 million deal with Temple. Beverly could have either been kept to help teach defense to the youngsters and as someone who could hit the 3 or he could have been re-rerouted by the deadline. However, Griffin may have better ideas for the TPE than taking on expirings for a 1st.
08-16-2021, 10:59 AM
pelafanatic

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Originally Posted by PELICANSFAN

First, Langdon put that to rest. He even said he could not say that they would have taken Murphy at 10, but that they had him rated higher than 17. We had 2 other players above Murphy that we were targeting between 10 and 17 and both got taken.

I can tell you for a fact that this is not true
08-16-2021, 01:44 PM
PELICANSFAN

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Originally Posted by pelafanatic

I can tell you for a fact that this is not true

So Langdon in a public interview lied?
08-16-2021, 01:51 PM
Taker597

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Originally Posted by PELICANSFAN

And we also dropped from 10 to 17 as a result of that.

And basically drafted the same player type we would at 10 that we would at 17. We was pretty high on Murphy.
08-16-2021, 01:55 PM
Taker597

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Originally Posted by PELICANSFAN

First, Langdon put that to rest. He even said he could not say that they would have taken Murphy at 10, but that they had him rated higher than 17. We had 2 other players above Murphy that we were targeting between 10 and 17 and both got taken. Would you take on Beverly and Rondo on expiring contracts for a 1st rounder? I would argue Rondo is a much better person to have on the bench and in the locker room than Temple as the veteran leader. So, there would have been no need to commit to a 3 years/$15 million deal with Temple. Beverly could have either been kept to help teach defense to the youngsters and as someone who could hit the 3 or he could have been re-rerouted by the deadline. However, Griffin may have better ideas for the TPE than taking on expirings for a 1st.

I heard Kispert and Durante... But as a prospect... I probably still rather side with Murphy upside.
08-16-2021, 02:18 PM
pelafanatic

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Originally Posted by Taker597

I heard Kispert and Durante... But as a prospect... I probably still rather side with Murphy upside.

If Murphy was gone we wanted Kispert or Duarte. Obviously the board fell in the Pels favor and those guys were picked above Trey
08-16-2021, 04:00 PM
PELICANSFAN

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Originally Posted by pelafanatic

If Murphy was gone we wanted Kispert or Duarte. Obviously the board fell in the Pels favor and those guys were picked above Trey

The heavy speculation was Moody was one of the 2 that went between 10 and 17 that the Pels had higher than Murphy.
08-16-2021, 04:04 PM
Darkhorse985

I guess no Buddy Hield with Josh Hart re-signing.

Lineup

PG: Graham/Kira/Satoransky
SG: NAW/Hart/Didi
SF: Ingram/Murphy/Temple
PF: Zion/Marshall/Jones
C: Valanciunas/Hayes/Hernangomez
08-16-2021, 04:05 PM
Eman5805

What does this do far as deadline options?
08-16-2021, 04:08 PM
Sleeper

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Originally Posted by Darkhorse985

I guess no Buddy Hield with Josh Hart re-signing.

Lineup

PG: Graham/Kira/Satoransky
SG: NAW/Hart/Didi
SF: Ingram/Murphy/Temple
PF: Zion/Marshall/Jones
C: Valanciunas/Hayes/Hernangomez

When did Hart sign?

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08-16-2021, 04:11 PM
pelafanatic

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Originally Posted by PELICANSFAN

The heavy speculation was Moody was one of the 2 that went between 10 and 17 that the Pels had higher than Murphy.

I have some receipts that this is not the case lol. Possible there's different sources with different info
08-16-2021, 04:11 PM
pelafanatic

Restricted free agent G Josh Hart is closing in on a three-year, $38 million deal to stay with the New Orleans Pelicans, his agents Aaron Mintz, Steven Heumann and Dave Spahn of @CAA_Basketball tell ESPN.
— Adrian Wojnarowski (@wojespn) August 16, 2021

Can't say I'm a fan
08-16-2021, 04:13 PM
donato

Ugh. Hope we move him at the deadline.
08-16-2021, 04:17 PM
Darkhorse985

I think Murphy could sneak his way into the starting lineup by seasons end if he continues to build on what he has shown in summer league.
08-16-2021, 04:18 PM
Pelicanidae

$12+m a year for Hart is a hefty overpay in general. Doubly so when you realise that guys like Naji have basically taken his job and are better at it.

Gotta hope there's some unguaranteed money, or a team option, or the plan is to trade him. Cause just giving him that contract straight up with the intention of retaining him is a very questionable choice.
08-16-2021, 04:21 PM
pelafanatic

To clear so much cap space with the use of multiple first round picks only to largely retain the same team is a tremendous failure. Need to crush the developmental phase now
08-16-2021, 04:24 PM
HoustonRox

How does Hart get double the $$ that someone like Cam Payne got?
08-16-2021, 04:28 PM
bradael

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Originally Posted by pelafanatic

Restricted free agent G Josh Hart is closing in on a three-year, $38 million deal to stay with the New Orleans Pelicans, his agents Aaron Mintz, Steven Heumann and Dave Spahn of @CAA_Basketball tell ESPN.
— Adrian Wojnarowski (@wojespn) August 16, 2021

Can't say I'm a fan

I kinda expected this when I saw the Pelicans' YouTube posted the 1st interview with Sato a few hours ago. Would feel wrong to do that and then trade him a few days later. I guess it still could happen though.
08-16-2021, 04:30 PM
PELICANSFAN

So much for getting Buddy. Sounds like a pretty big overpay for Hart. A bit disappointed that Griffin is giving him this much. Hoping 3rd year is team option, but doubting.
08-16-2021, 04:31 PM
Taker597

That's a bunch of yikes.
08-16-2021, 04:31 PM
bradael

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Originally Posted by pelafanatic

To clear so much cap space with the use of multiple first round picks only to largely retain the same team is a tremendous failure. Need to crush the developmental phase now

I get your point but 3 starters have been replaced. The team is actually going to look fairly different. Obviously the two biggest pieces are not.
08-16-2021, 04:38 PM
Darkhorse985

If all goes right, the Pels will be the 10th best team in the west. Alright!
08-16-2021, 04:38 PM
Taker597

Well. The TM3 Era gotta start now. Lol
08-16-2021, 04:39 PM
neworleanshoo

Ugh. Really not happy with this news.
08-16-2021, 04:40 PM
Darkhorse985

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Originally Posted by Taker597

Well. The TM3 Era gotta start now. Lol

He is the only addition with potential for star power. I predict that he is in the starting lineup with Ingram and Zion by the end of the season. Maybe NAW outplays Graham to be the other starting guard. A lineup of NAW/Ingram/Murphy/Zion/Valanciunas has a ton of length. I think Kira isn’t ready for significant minutes yet. He can’t defend a flea at this point.

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