General Offseason News

Donte DiVincenzo is not picking up his $4.7 million player option with the Warriors and will enter unrestricted free agency, source tells ESPN.

— Kendra Andrews (@kendra__andrews) June 27, 2023

I think he would be the perfect fit for the Pels.

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Donte DiVincenzo is not picking up his $4.7 million player option with the Warriors and will enter unrestricted free agency, source tells ESPN.

— Kendra Andrews (@kendra__andrews) June 27, 2023

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That's my guy, but you already knew that. The Paul trade should have signaled teams to line up. I hope Pelicans are one of those teams.

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? Shamit Dua (@FearTheBrown) June 27, 2023

Jarrett Allen would be a huge get. I don't dare dream.

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I posted on another board:

Cavs Get: Jonas and Keldon Johnson
Pels Get: Jarrett Allen
Spurs Get: Okoro and Dyson

I'd trade Jonas to the Lakers for mo Bamba and 2 2nd rounders

JV is so undervalued by this team. I wont be surprised at all if he is gone, but seems likely that his replacement will not be an upgrade.

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JV is so undervalued by this team. I wont be surprised at all if he is gone, but seems likely that his replacement will not be an upgrade.

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JV's + asset(s) should be enough to get Jarrett Allen IMO, assuming the + assets solve their SF problem.

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Originally Posted by Impose

JV's + asset(s) should be enough to get Jarrett Allen IMO, assuming the + assets solve their SF problem.

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They want that to be Trey and that's a no-go.

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They want that to be Trey and that's a no-go.

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Yea I could maybe live with Jonas + Herb for Allen but I'd still feel we overpaid. Murphy I value more than Herb, to me Murphy is untouchable because he can cover either Ingram or Zion if one goes down.

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Yea I could maybe live with Jonas + Herb for Allen but I'd still feel we overpaid. Murphy I value more than Herb, to me Murphy is untouchable because he can cover either Ingram or Zion if one goes down.

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Yikes Herb and JV for Allen??? I would not like that at all

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Yikes Herb and JV for Allen??? I would not like that at all

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I wouldnt be overly thrilled either but being able to close out games with Allen on the floor is a massive upgrade over Nance and the reality is Cavs will want a Jones-level starting SF along with Jonas in order to move from Allen, if they have any motivation to do so in the first place. So either we keep Jones and a 3rd team gets involved to take our future firsts and Dyson or we have to bite the bullet on letting one of trey/Herb go.

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I wouldnt be overly thrilled either but being able to close out games with Allen on the floor is a massive upgrade over Nance and the reality is Cavs will want a Jones-level starting SF along with Jonas in order to move from Allen, if they have any motivation to do so in the first place. So either we keep Jones and a 3rd team gets involved to take our future firsts and Dyson or we have to bite the bullet on letting one of trey/Herb go.

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The benefit of being able to close out games with Allen on the floor is negated by not being able to close out games with Herb on the floor. A lockdown wing defender is more important. Willie needs to get over himself and embrace Jonas as a Pelican.

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The benefit of being able to close out games with Allen on the floor is negated by not being able to close out games with Herb on the floor. A lockdown wing defender is more important. Willie needs to get over himself and embrace Jonas as a Pelican.

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Love Jonas...can't stand the way Willie has played him. But, in a 'motion offense', JV will be a square peg trying to fit in a round hole. It would be like trying to make Rudy Jobert or Dwight Howard assist machines and asking them to stretch the floor. Neither are 'the Joker'. Even Hall of Famers, Shaq and Hakeem wouldn't cut it in this type of offense.

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Yikes Herb and JV for Allen??? I would not like that at all

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Agree. not at all.

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Love Jonas...can't stand the way Willie has played him. But, in a 'motion offense', JV will be a square peg trying to fit in a round hole. It would be like trying to make Rudy Jobert or Dwight Howard assist machines and asking them to stretch the floor. Neither are 'the Joker'. Even Hall of Famers, Shaq and Hakeem wouldn't cut it in this type of offense.

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Does Allen fit it though? He is a better rim protector and solid rebounder, but he is less of a perimeter threat than JV. Is he a better screen setter?

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That's my guy, but you already knew that. The Paul trade should have signaled teams to line up. I hope Pelicans are one of those teams.

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Think he will get paid more than Pels would be willing to pay. Also, will create more of a logjam at the guard position.

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Does Allen fit it though? He is a better rim protector and solid rebounder, but he is less of a perimeter threat than JV. Is he a better screen setter?

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I'm not an JA proponent, either. Would rather Olynyk or Eubanks in a motion offense

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I'm not an JA proponent, either. Would rather Olynyk or Eubanks in a motion offense

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Eubanks seems like a low risk/low cost option.

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Eubanks seems like a low risk/low cost option.

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Voila!! PF and AISI agree on something.

The Chicago Bulls and center Nikola Vucevic are nearing a three-year, $60 million contract extension, league sources tell @TheAthletic @Stadium. pic.twitter.com/xYo9vF0Gk1

— Shams Charania (@ShamsCharania) June 28, 2023

Bulls seem determined to tread water forever

The Hornets have extended qualifying offers today to Miles Bridges, Theo Maledon and PJ Washington to make all three restricted free agents.

More NBA from me: https://t.co/A6ycVmnrjq

— Marc Stein (@TheSteinLine) June 28, 2023

The new Collective Bargaining Agreement has been signed and shared with the 30 NBA teams, sources tell ESPN. The 676-page agreement goes into effect on July 1 and runs through the 2029-2030 season

— Adrian Wojnarowski (@wojespn) June 28, 2023

NBA teams gotta become experts in a new CBA within the next 48 hours lmao

I'm curious do we do anything in FA? Or is the only move we make is trying to replace JV?

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JV is so undervalued by this team. I wont be surprised at all if he is gone, but seems likely that his replacement will not be an upgrade.

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I don’t think Green is high on him if last season is any indication so maybe we need to get a more mobile guy. FWIW I agree that Jonas is a really good player and hasn’t been utilized properly. It may not be an upgrade per say but an upgrade for what Willie wants to build.

Laugh all yal want. But I think not considering Jaxson Hayes for a larger role has been .... and will be.. a mistake. I think he hasn't played in the past cause he wasn't nearly the best big on our roster. But as a coach, one has to realize at some juncture that it isn't our year to win it all and play some of the guys with higher upsides that need further development, despite the fact that they aren't better than the others yet.
I've seen Jaxson come in and be a game changer many times; given it was usually playing pf when this happened, but still. I'd like to see him retained

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Laugh all yal want. But I think not considering Jaxson Hayes for a larger role has been .... and will be.. a mistake. I think he hasn't played in the past cause he wasn't nearly the best big on our roster. But as a coach, one has to realize at some juncture that it isn't our year to win it all and play some of the guys with higher upsides that need further development, despite the fact that they aren't better than the others yet.
I've seen Jaxson come in and be a game changer many times; given it was usually playing pf when this happened, but still. I'd like to see him retained

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His qualifying offer is $7.75MM; so, we ain't going there. The only way he sticks around is if he played for the league minimum which he probably can get from seven to ten other teams in the league. If Myles Turner leaves Indianapolis, that's where I can see him going on the cheap.

Jaxson Hayes will definitely go down as a huge what if. He has so many qualities that would make him a great contributor, just lacking the bball IQ and instincts. Which is something that was known when he was drafted. Just a major fail on the player development side, of course having 3 different coaching staffs in his first 3 years is not a great recipe for developing a raw 19 year old prospect.

The Pelicans and Garrett Temple have agreed to extend the deadline on guaranteeing his $5.4 million contract for the 2023-24 season to July 7, sources told ESPN.

The previous deadline was tomorrow.

— Andrew Lopez (@_Andrew_Lopez) June 29, 2023

Gordon’s waiving saves the Clippers $110M in luxury tax, per @BobbyMarks42. https://t.co/g4dEgWxymZ

— Adrian Wojnarowski (@wojespn) June 29, 2023

$110m dollars to keep Eric Gordon lmao

Yeah. I love JV but question his fit at times. TBH, I' don't really love the fit of any of the names we could go after either. There just seems to be a major flaw to each fit. Meh.

Also, there's not a lot of sample size to go on with this but I liked the way we played the Nuggets when we had JV and Zion as a tandem last season and they are the team to beat currently. But we have to save money somewhere.

This is an updated Summer League roster for Pelicans: https://clutchpoints.com/nba-summer-...osters-tracker

New Orleans Pelicans
Dyson Daniels ? New Orleans Pelicans [Pick No. 8 in 2022 NBA Draft]
Jordan Hawkins ? UConn [Pick No. 14 in 2023 NBA Draft]
Kamaka Hepa ? Hawaii
Tevian Jones ? Southern Utah
E.J. Liddell ? New Orleans Pelicans Two-Way Contract [Pick No. 41 in 2022 NBA Draft]
Karlo Matkovic ? Cedevita Olimpija (Slovenia) [Pick No. 52 in 2022 NBA Draft]
Landers Nolley II ? Cincinnati
Liam Robbins ? Vanderbilt
Dereon Seabron ? New Orleans Pelicans Two-Way Contract

Because rosters of other teams seemed incomplete, with less than 10 players in some cases, I am guessing this will be revised as the games get started next week. A new name on this list is Kamaka Hepa, from the University of Hawaii.

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The Lakers are waiving Mo Bamba, according to a league source.

— Jake Fischer (@JakeLFischer) June 29, 2023

Chicago Bulls center Andre Drummond is opting into his $3.3 million player option for the 2023-24 season, league sources tell @NBAonTNT, @BleacherReport.

— Chris Haynes (@ChrisBHaynes) June 29, 2023

With James Harden opting into his $35.6 million player option with the Philadelphia 76ers to initiate trade dialogue, the Los Angeles Clippers are a team to monitor for his services, league sources tell @NBAonTNT, @BleacherReport.

— Chris Haynes (@ChrisBHaynes) June 29, 2023

The New Orleans Pelicans are declining forward Herb Jones’ $1.8 million team option for the 2023-24 season, which clears way for Jones to be a restricted free agent and for the sides to work toward a long-term extension, sources tell @TheAthletic @Stadium.

— Shams Charania (@ShamsCharania) June 29, 2023

Locking up Herb means some tax evading moves are coming. We can't afford to pay him his extension without cutting some cost elsewhere.

JV on the move?

Oh ********! Here we go!

Likely a 4/$50.8M deal on deck.

But that means trades to come https://t.co/mgmBUhfvmk

— Shamit Dua (@FearTheBrown) June 29, 2023

Yeah, that.

nice to see some familiar faces still around here

The Pelicans declined Willy Hernangomez's team option, a source said. They also did not extend the qualifying offer to Jaxson Hayes. Hayes is a UFA.

— Christian Clark (@cclark_13) June 29, 2023

Makes sense, neither are particularly worth investing in and if we need him, we can probably just pick Willy back up on a minimum when things have died down somewhat.

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The New Orleans Pelicans are declining forward Herb Jones’ $1.8 million team option for the 2023-24 season, which clears way for Jones to be a restricted free agent and for the sides to work toward a long-term extension, sources tell @TheAthletic @Stadium.

— Shams Charania (@ShamsCharania) June 29, 2023

Locking up Herb means some tax evading moves are coming. We can't afford to pay him his extension without cutting some cost elsewhere.

JV on the move?

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They seem to be trying to move Kira. Not sure who would take him into space though.

it's gotta be kira going. i think they tried moving JV, but it's difficult to do when you need a playable center back too.

I wouldn't be surprised to see herb's deal come in at slightly less than the max arenas extension. but i wouldn't be that mad at the max i guess even though that's essentially valuing herb at 16 million a year because you lose out on the cheap team option year.

Hope Herb gets a nice number. His skill set can be very underappreciated by some fans. He deserves starter money.

Little surprised about Jax. Thought some GM would think they've got the midas touch and would accept him in a trade. Guess not.

Lakers letting go of Malik Beasley. For now.

The Lakers will waive Mo Bamba and not pick up the team option on Malik Beasley today, sources told ESPN. LAL plans to stay in contact with both players’ representatives throughout free agency and could find different deal structures for Bamba and/or Beasley’s return to LA

— Dave McMenamin (@mcten) June 29, 2023

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The Pelicans declined Willy Hernangomez's team option, a source said. They also did not extend the qualifying offer to Jaxson Hayes. Hayes is a UFA.

— Christian Clark (@cclark_13) June 29, 2023

Makes sense, neither are particularly worth investing in and if we need him, we can probably just pick Willy back up on a minimum when things have died down somewhat.

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No way Willy comes back after this season. Too many other teams with title chances can give him the same money. Phoenix or Philly.

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No way Willy comes back after this season. Too many other teams with title chances can give him the same money. Phoenix or Philly.

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The question is, which of those teams want him?

Sacramento Kings forward Harrison Barnes – a key part of the franchise’s rise into Western Conference contention – has agreed on a new three-year, $54 million contract extension, his agent Jeff Schwartz of @Excelbasketball tells ESPN. pic.twitter.com/JCT4RUayt7

— Adrian Wojnarowski (@wojespn) June 30, 2023

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The Pelicans and Garrett Temple have agreed to extend the deadline on guaranteeing his $5.4 million contract for the 2023-24 season to July 7, sources told ESPN.

The previous deadline was tomorrow.

— Andrew Lopez (@_Andrew_Lopez) June 29, 2023

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Are we really going to waste a roster spot on this guy YET AGAIN? CMON MAN!

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Are we really going to waste a roster spot on this guy YET AGAIN? CMON MAN!

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It's just to see if they can work out a trade. He's not returning as a player to our team.

Suns will take anyone over 6'9'' with a pulse and close to a vet min salary. EuroMVP on the resume helps.

Are we going to finally go after Myles Turner?


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So by this time next week, JV, Jax, and Willy could all be gone. The only surviving bigs will be Larry and EJ.

Makes me really think they would have taken Lively at 14 if he would have been there.