Pelicans talking with Rondo about a 1 year deal {updated - Signed}

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Originally Posted by DaPelFromHell

Hopefully Rondo can give us a stat line of 10-12 pts, 11-13 apg, 5-7 rpg, & a couple steals. If the first unit can give us close to these numbers we should be really solid.

C: Cousins 24-26 pts, 11-13 rpg, 5-6 apg, & 1-2 bpg
PF: AD 26-29 pts, 10-12 rpg, 3-4 apg, 2 bpg, & a steal
SF: Hill 10-12 pts, 5-7 rph, 2-3 apg
SG: Jrue 17-19 pts, 6-8 apg, 4-5 rpg, & a steal or 2
PG: Rondo 10-12 pts, 11-13 apt, 5-7 rpg, & 2 steals like last year

Then hope Moore, Crawford, Diallo, Cook, and whoever else we add can be a decent 2nd unit. I personally like the Rondo pick if AD & Cousins can keep his head on straight. Hope Jrue will be cool with playing the 2 a good bit. Hopefully he thrives and gets a bunch of baskets. Rondo just does so much things decent. He can give you double figures in scoring and assists. Then he can also get you a good bit of boards. He was one of the better starters out there. Don't think we could have afforded D Rose or KCP. I didn't care for Rose anyway. Now KCP would of been a good addition, but he probably wants more than a year deal and he might of been out are price range. With us having the two bigs now, I rather have that straight point guard. I've always seen Jrue as more of a combo guard that leaned more 1 than 2. Rondo is a pure point guard that can still be really crafty with the ball and get you a pile of assists. I know his defense may not be as good as it once was, but he still has then really long arms and gets in the passing lane for steals. I surprisingly like the move cause I didn't want to start the season with both Solomon Hill & Etwaun Moore starting.

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All I see in that line-up is first round swept. This whole being content with just being an 8th seed BS is old. Should of cleaned house at the start of the offseason. All is see treading water and revel in mediocrity.

There is more to life (and basketball) than stats. The deal is already done, so let's look on the upside:

1. Rondo has won an NBA championship and knows what is necessary to get it done. He has seen the work P. Pierce and K. Garnett put in.
2. Rondo is tough and does not back down.
3. We have good players who need to be tougher. Many of them are quite young and probably don't know the level of effort that is necessary to win championships or even have playoff success. Maybe Rondo can kick the whole team's effort up a notch.
4. Rondo is an elite passer. He could get 15apg with the guys we already have.
5. Rondo will attract more national attention than we otherwise would get and perhaps some more national TV games.

Maybe I'm wrong. I think, however, that is why they play the games.

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Originally Posted by Taker597

All I see in that line-up is first round swept. This whole being content with just being an 8th seed BS is old. Should of cleaned house at the start of the offseason. All is see treading water and revel in mediocrity.

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Starting over and tanking maybe gets us another AD. Probably not. More likely a Kyrie Irving or such, if that.

The Warriors own the NBA right now. The West is stacked. Having a championship or bust mindset right now is setting yourself up for disappointment.

Which is your prerogative. Do what you want. But eventually the team actually has to try and beat the good teams, even if they're the underdog. The hope of cleaning house and getting lottery luck doesn't actually do anything.

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Originally Posted by Taker597

All I see in that line-up is first round swept. This whole being content with just being an 8th seed BS is old. Should of cleaned house at the start of the offseason. All is see treading water and revel in mediocrity.

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Two superstar bigs in the hand, in a teeny tiny market, and yet an argument was being advanced to blow it up? I mean...good lord.

A market the size of New Orleans could draft for 1000 years and not luck into two talents the size of A.D. and Boogie both in their prime at the same time. These are halcyon days for the organization, or might be. You have to be nuts not to give it a try. The whole and entire purpose of drafting is to draft superstar talents. And you already are sitting on two of them.

Dell was trying to hit home runs with hill and omer and they backfired he basically shot himself in the foot and tied his hands financially

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Originally Posted by PELICANSFAN

I think that is great, but saw some comments from a sports writer that he was terrible in Sacramento because he forced too many thinks to Cousins and the offense became dysfunctional. I did not follow the Kings enough to see that though.

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If that sports writer looks suspiciously like the wicked witch of the West and writes for the Sac Bee I wouldn't put an ounce of credibility in it. She's not a sports writer, she's a sports editorialist who thinks she runs the Kings and had a half decade feud with Boogie. She immediately took to George Karl because Karl was going to teach Boogie a lesson and put him in his place, and then spent the next year and a half shrieking as Boogie beat the hell out of him and sent him into retirement. Actually, players break down into two camps for her, soft pretty little submissive betas who she develops cougar crushes on and ickily praises for their rippling muscles in her columns, and then big mean scary men who are bullies a decent little town like Sacramento can never accept.

One day, if they are lucky, a house will fall on her and her feet will shrivel up and disappear beneath it. Until then though she ironically is about as bad a source of news about the Kings as you can find, because everything she writes is blatantly full of her own agendas. She wants to be queen of her own little dunghill.

Yup let's go with crap shoot that is the draft some of you people and your obsession with the draft is amazing bc guess what cleavland had 3 chances to get it right and yet it didn't happen sp totally let's rely on the draft cause ya know casuals fans ad all that smh

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C- Cousins
PF- Davis
SF- Hill
SG- Holiday
PG- Rondo

6th- Crawford
7th- Pondexter?
8th- Moore
9th- SF/PF to be signed (Cunningham? Barnes?)
10th- Diallo
11th- Ajinca
12th- Asik

13th- Cook and rookies

Good pieces forming up, it's just still being trapped with too many of the old middling pieces which is holding things back. Can't just add here, need to clear some of the mediocre pieces out of the way to make room for anything new.

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Originally Posted by bahmamamba

Yup let's go with crap shoot that is the draft some of you people and your obsession with the draft is amazing bc guess what cleavland had 3 chances to get it right and yet it didn't happen sp totally let's rely on the draft cause ya know casuals fans ad all that smh

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Because Cleveland is terrible at drafting. Golden State built their core through the draft (prior to KD). All I see is that we could have had AD, Hield, one of Isaac, Dennis Smith JR, Donovan Mitchell or Markkanen and I would have felt like "Sure, its not gonna be a playoffs team, but I'm interested to see where this goes".

I'd have been completely fine to ride out this GS dynasty a little and aim to compete with a well built squad when AD is like 27. Instead we're trying to double dip and contend now, and then possibly re-stack when Boogie and Jrue get old. I think I just would have taken development route with players you can control for 7+ years (rookies/RFA's) especially knowing that this draft was STACKED.

But we'll see how it plays out, maybe the Pels make noise this year, I see some chance of that happening, but I think there were better routes to take.

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Originally Posted by Taker597

All I see in that line-up is first round swept. This whole being content with just being an 8th seed BS is old. Should of cleaned house at the start of the offseason. All is see treading water and revel in mediocrity.

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This is an act, right? There's no way you are real.

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Originally Posted by Impose

Because Cleveland is terrible at drafting. Golden State built their core through the draft (prior to KD). All I see is that we could have had AD, Hield, one of Isaac, Dennis Smith JR, Donovan Mitchell or Markkanen and I would have felt like "Sure, its not gonna be a playoffs team, but I'm interested to see where this goes".

I'd have been completely fine to ride out this GS dynasty a little and aim to compete with a well built squad when AD is like 27. Instead we're trying to double dip and contend now, and then possibly re-stack when Boogie and Jrue get old. I think I just would have taken development route with players you can control for 7+ years (rookies/RFA's) especially knowing that this draft was STACKED.

But we'll see how it plays out, maybe the Pels make noise this year, I see some chance of that happening, but I think there were better routes to take.

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And yet all of this is opinion you think this you think that blah blah blah the biggest thing GW has is this mystique the whole league is so scared of them when really they're pretty easy to beat

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Originally Posted by bahmamamba

And yet all of this is opinion you think this you think that blah blah blah the biggest thing GW has is this mystique the whole league is so scared of them when really they're pretty easy to beat

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You just called the 1st or 2nd greatest team of all time 'pretty easy to beat'. This is why I argue with people on this forum. You're just wrong, most of the time.

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Originally Posted by Bricklayer

If that sports writer looks suspiciously like the wicked witch of the West and writes for the Sac Bee I wouldn't put an ounce of credibility in it. She's not a sports writer, she's a sports editorialist who thinks she runs the Kings and had a half decade feud with Boogie. She immediately took to George Karl because Karl was going to teach Boogie a lesson and put him in his place, and then spent the next year and a half shrieking as Boogie beat the hell out of him and sent him into retirement. Actually, players break down into two camps for her, soft pretty little submissive betas who she develops cougar crushes on and ickily praises for their rippling muscles in her columns, and then big mean scary men who are bullies a decent little town like Sacramento can never accept.

One day, if they are lucky, a house will fall on her and her feet will shrivel up and disappear beneath it. Until then though she ironically is about as bad a source of news about the Kings as you can find, because everything she writes is blatantly full of her own agendas. She wants to be queen of her own little dunghill.

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It was a guy. I do not recall the name, but of course Fletch keep quoting him.

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Originally Posted by Impose

You just called the 1st or 2nd greatest team of all time 'pretty easy to beat'. This is why I argue with people on this forum. You're just wrong, most of the time.

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Of course you must be right at all times m6 fault for offending your team 😂

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Originally Posted by bahmamamba

And yet all of this is opinion you think this you think that blah blah blah the biggest thing GW has is this mystique the whole league is so scared of them when really they're pretty easy to beat

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Easy to beat? Since when? You may want to share that secret with the rest of the NBA.

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Originally Posted by PELICANSFAN

Easy to beat? Since when? You may want to share that secret with the rest of the NBA.

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Oh okay watch them play the spurs

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Originally Posted by bahmamamba

Oh okay watch them play the spurs

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And? Over the last 3 years, the Warriors have won over 84% of their games and 2 NBA championships and 1 NBA runner up. No one can, with a straight face, make the claim that they are "easy to beat."

I just did so what's your point?

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Originally Posted by bahmamamba

I just did so what's your point?

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Go follow Sacramento dude, you're not needed here.

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Originally Posted by bahmamamba

I just did so what's your point?

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My point is that you simply pulling stuff out of the air. It does not make it accurate. If they were easy to beat, teams would be doing it. How many titles have the Spurs won the last 3 years? The Spurs may have the game plan for beating them, but it certainly is not "easy" and the proof is clearly in the actual results.

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Originally Posted by Impose

Go follow Sacramento dude, you're not needed here.

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Lmao really how about you? I mean you're always talking ******** to every as if you're right how about you go be one of THOSE casual fans buddy

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Put of the air and yet the celtics usually beat them and 76 ers beat them lol sorry bug when you let teams like that beat you you aren't that good

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Originally Posted by bahmamamba

I just did so what's your point?

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His point is that your basketball knowledge is biased at best and lacking at worst. I'll echo the sentiment.

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Originally Posted by Mr. West

His point is that your basketball knowledge is biased at best and lacking at worst. I'll echo the sentiment.

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Congrats I'll give you both a cookie for being better at not actually knowing things but just thinking yoy do?

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Originally Posted by Impose

Go follow Sacramento dude, you're not needed here.

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LMBO this is so messed up but funny slso

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Originally Posted by Taker597

All I see in that line-up is first round swept. This whole being content with just being an 8th seed BS is old. Should of cleaned house at the start of the offseason. All is see treading water and revel in mediocrity.

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What team are you honestly looking at???

This roster is going to be featuring a legit top 5 overall player in the whole world and another big with deep shooting range that is a legit top 15-20 player...again....IN THE WORLD!

No team will be able to realistically contain that Frontline. Add in the fact that Diallo has come into his own and will be by seasons end the third big in the rotation and you've got three guys that won't be stopped night in and night out. The entire point of this off-season was to retain Jrue and get another above average primary passer and ball handler to put next to him. Rondo fits that bill perfectly.... especially when looking at what was still out there. His previous relationship and time spent with Boogie only makes me think that the two of them will be a fantastic 1-2 pick a roll punch all season, leaving Jrue and AD to do the same type of two man stuff in their own right. Jordan Crawford will surprise many when he duplicates his play late last year over the course of an entire year and improvements to hill and Moore's game is also expected. If Quinn Cook can give you some quality play for a few minutes a game then this lineup is not a first round sweep victim, it's a potential top 4 team in the west. AD is coming around to the point of being so good that he can simply will his team to victory. Boogie is the best center in the game. You have totally underestimated this roster in it's entirety, this is not an 8 seed destined to lose to the warriors. Maybe they aren't top 4, but there are not 7 teams better top to bottom ahead of the pelicans anymore.

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Originally Posted by bahmamamba

Put of the air and yet the celtics usually beat them and 76 ers beat them lol sorry bug when you let teams like that beat you you aren't that good

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Just wondering do you think that the GS can be beat in a 7 game series and by who?

I think it would be more accurate to say with the Warriors that as all time great teams go, they have an obvious potential fatal flaw to exploit. And its not accidental either -- they have grown up and developed their team in an era when nobody had the personnel to exploit it, so they thought they could cheat inside and get away with it. And they have been right.

But I've said before that people not intrigued by the Pelicans, well, kinda suck. Because this team, right now, has the potential to change the small ball/perimeter paradigm. To eb the team that breaks the game back the other way. And great as the Warriors are, that's the one thing they are not built to contend with. Because why would they be in an era when big men were on the run and the few the league had were stuck on vastly inferior teams?

Basically its matchups. The Pels have an opportunity to be a nightmare matchup for the Warriors in excess of the overall talent on the team. They hit the Warriors where the Warriors are weak. Doesn't mean they'll beat them. But does mean they could cause problems in excess of their overall talent.

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Originally Posted by tyler

Just wondering do you think that the GS can be beat in a 7 game series and by who?

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The spurs would of beaten them last year if kwai doesn't get hurt and the celtics for some reason have their number and we play them pretty well I mean almost bear them with back ups last year that's crazy

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Originally Posted by Bricklayer

I think it would be more accurate to say with the Warriors that as all time great teams go, they have an obvious potential fatal flaw to exploit. And its not accidental either -- they have grown up and developed their team in an era when nobody had the personnel to exploit it, so they thought they could cheat inside and get away with it. And they have been right.

But I've said before that people not intrigued by the Pelicans, well, kinda suck. Because this team, right now, has the potential to change the small ball/perimeter paradigm. To eb the team that breaks the game back the other way. And great as the Warriors are, that's the one thing they are not built to contend with. Because why would they be in an era when big men were on the run and the few the league had were stuck on vastly inferior teams?

Basically its matchups. The Pels have an opportunity to be a nightmare matchup for the Warriors in excess of the overall talent on the team. They hit the Warriors where the Warriors are weak. Doesn't mean they'll beat them. But does mean they could cause problems in excess of their overall talent.

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I mean we have a start with 2 top 10 players... but lets be honest the have 2 top 10 players as well and 2 top 20 player with excellent role players... so in my eyes we need a lot more to be able to take it with them... they basically have 2 former all stars and a very good starter in livingston... we need a bench and a nice point guard and wing someone like a Conley and a Middleton to beat them 2 players that play D and can shoot the ball

I see both sides.

Golden State has had it easy. They've been dominant, but most of their playoff series wins have come against teams that were shells of themselves from injuries. The year we played them first round, we had some major injuries, CP3 went down, Kyrie, and others. The next year they lost to the Cave. This year they dominated......but no team was really great except the Cavs. It was a pretty down year for the rest of the NBA.....oh....and Leonard went out. When it comes to injuries, GS has been insanely lucky with their own guys and who they play. So I can get behind the Mamba a bit. It's like their head coaches somehow sacrifice their own bodies to voodoo hurt their opponents.

The Golden State Warriors have yet to win a title in a season where the top teams weren't neutered by injuries.

They have been really great. But the rest if the league has been really blah. This year we're shaping up, Houston is interesting. The Spurs may be trending downward.....how will PG do in OKC.........it will be a more interesting season. And at some point the Ws luck with injuries has to end.

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Originally Posted by MSU-Sousaphone

I see both sides.

Golden State has had it easy. They've been dominant, but most of their playoff series wins have come against teams that were shells of themselves from injuries. The year we played them first round, we had some major injuries, CP3 went down, Kyrie, and others. The next year they lost to the Cave. This year they dominated......but no team was really great except the Cavs. It was a pretty down year for the rest of the NBA.....oh....and Leonard went out. When it comes to injuries, GS has been insanely lucky with their own guys and who they play. So I can get behind the Mamba a bit. It's like their head coaches somehow sacrifice their own bodies to voodoo hurt their opponents.

They have been really great. But the rest if the league has been really blah. This year we're shaping up, Houston is interesting. The Spurs may be trending downward.....how will PG do in OKC.........it will be a more interesting season. And at some point the Ws luck with injuries has to end.

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Pretty much all of this

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Originally Posted by bahmamamba

The spurs would of beaten them last year if kwai doesn't get hurt and the celtics for some reason have their number and we play them pretty well I mean almost bear them with back ups last year that's crazy

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Oh ok... I think the spurs would won a game or 2 but the way Aldridge played they wouldn't have gotten far.. the Celtics got smashed by Cleveland and then Cleveland was demolished by GS and as far as us... 2 of the 3 games we lost by double digits one being by 20 but I understand your points might not agree but understand

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Originally Posted by tyler

Oh ok... I think the spurs would won a game or 2 but the way Aldridge played they wouldn't have gotten far.. the Celtics got smashed by Cleveland and then Cleveland was demolished by GS and as far as us... 2 of the 3 games we lost by double digits one being by 20 but I understand your points might not agree but understand

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Thank you man lol but the spurs were up 30 points before he went out and I think I blue print against Houston was perfect let harden score but stop everyone else

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Originally Posted by MSU-Sousaphone

I see both sides.

Golden State has had it easy. They've been dominant, but most of their playoff series wins have come against teams that were shells of themselves from injuries. The year we played them first round, we had some major injuries, CP3 went down, Kyrie, and others. The next year they lost to the Cave. This year they dominated......but no team was really great except the Cavs. It was a pretty down year for the rest of the NBA.....oh....and Leonard went out. When it comes to injuries, GS has been insanely lucky with their own guys and who they play. So I can get behind the Mamba a bit. It's like their head coaches somehow sacrifice their own bodies to voodoo hurt their opponents.

The Golden State Warriors have yet to win a title in a season where the top teams weren't neutered by injuries.

They have been really great. But the rest if the league has been really blah. This year we're shaping up, Houston is interesting. The Spurs may be trending downward.....how will PG do in OKC.........it will be a more interesting season. And at some point the Ws luck with injuries has to end.

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Tbh they was suppose to win it last year but they suspended Green and Andre and bogut got hurt the game after but even this year they added KD so tbh even if everybody was healthy they still would lose they are just that good

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Originally Posted by bahmamamba

Thank you man lol but the spurs were up 30 points before he went out and I think I blue print against Houston was perfect let harden score but stop everyone else

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Yea they did I just wonder how far a team with an injured tony Parker an aged manu and a very inconsistent Aldridge would have taken them but I think Rudy gay is a sleeper and a nice pick up... Rudy is on my 2k team lighting it up lol

You may be right. But all we have to go on is the extremely small sample size from when the Spurs were up 30 in Oakland before Leonard went down. Now, they may have been able to rally from that one game deficit but that's my point, an argument can be made for what Mamba is saying.

Like I said, I'm in the middle. They are great. But they are beatable. It's not easy. You need an amazing defense and some points in the paint.......but hey.....this roster....a legit argument can be made this team will be the best defense in the league......and we should be able to rake I some points in the paint.....

Back to Rondo:

I kinda like the idea of staggering AD with Jrue and Boogie with Rondo after starting and eventually finishing the game together. If you started Jrue-Rondo-Solo-AD-Boogie, then took out Rondo and Boogie for Moore and Cunningham halfway through the quarter, you could close the quarter with our starting lineup from last year and open the 2nd with a fresh Cuz and Rondo.

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Originally Posted by Mr. West

Back to Rondo:

I kinda like the idea of staggering AD with Jrue and Boogie with Rondo after starting and eventually finishing the game together. If you started Jrue-Rondo-Solo-AD-Boogie, then took out Rondo and Boogie for Moore and Cunningham halfway through the quarter, you could close the quarter with our starting lineup from last year and open the 2nd with a fresh Cuz and Rondo.

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I was thinking if gentry managed the game well he could basically have a combo of jrue and AD or Rondo and Cousins. You have two players that facilitate and offense at all times.


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Originally Posted by Mr. West

Back to Rondo:

I kinda like the idea of staggering AD with Jrue and Boogie with Rondo after starting and eventually finishing the game together. If you started Jrue-Rondo-Solo-AD-Boogie, then took out Rondo and Boogie for Moore and Cunningham halfway through the quarter, you could close the quarter with our starting lineup from last year and open the 2nd with a fresh Cuz and Rondo.

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Lol cool

Mmmmmmmmmmm.

An admission that the pretentiousness was over the top would have been cool.....but OK. Back to Rondo. Yeah. Staggering like that would be excellent. Leaves us never without a starting quality PG and dominant big and covers up our weak bench.

I said this a few days ago when we thought Ryno was a possibility.....but that staggering plus am addition like Ryno actually would be amazing. Will be interesting to see what future moves are made.

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Originally Posted by msw2024

I was thinking if gentry managed the game well he could basically have a combo of jrue and AD or Rondo and Cousins. You have two players that facilitate and offense at all times.


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My thinking exactly just in a shorter more precise manner than I managed :hihi:

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Originally Posted by tyler

Lol cool

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Ya

We had a lot of dry spells last year if jrue or AD was on the bench.


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Originally Posted by Impose

Go follow Sacramento dude, you're not needed here.

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Chill man, Mamba is the homie

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Originally Posted by msw2024

We had a lot of dry spells last year if jrue or AD was on the bench

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The most dynamic our offense ever has been in the Davis era was with Tyreke on the floor with either Jrue or Gordon. The need for 2 guards capable of running PnR in a big dominated offense is evident. Can Rondo provide the same level of production as Tyreke or even Gordon? Not in the same fashion surely, but perhaps.

Did we find out what the contract is?

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Originally Posted by Taker597

All I see in that line-up is first round swept. This whole being content with just being an 8th seed BS is old. Should of cleaned house at the start of the offseason. All is see treading water and revel in mediocrity.

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Maybe it's time to level up on the bifocals because you should be seeing more than that.

I mean this team has Anthony Davis, Demarcus Cousins, and a very capable pg in Rajon Rondo on the same team. That's a load of talent right there.

Whats going on is a severe mental downward bias because they all play for the New Orleans Pelicans. Which isn't the Pelicans problem.

Whats got me intrigued is everybody is talking about how Rondo and Cousins play together.

Well looking at some highlights, I saw plenty between Rondo and Cauley-Stein.

This move will be of huge benefit to AD. A pg that knows how to probe the lane and throw alleys consistently.

As to possible centers

Speights
Withey
Lee
Reed

All of them are rather cheap options.
Some of them are combo. Assuming we will dump Alexis and Omer and clear some space

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Originally Posted by pawel

As to possible centers

Speights
Withey
Lee
Reed

All of them are rather cheap options.
Some of them are combo. Assuming we will dump Alexis and Omer and clear some space

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I like Speights coz he can shoot