Gameday Thread: Hornets @ Cavaliers

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Originally Posted by BuzzmanD

Tom Benson is the biggest loser in this mess signing this idiot head coach for 5 years. It's one thing to know you lose games because you don't have the talent to compete it is another when a average fan questions why we have to watch our opponents starters play against our 2nd and 3rd string players and get toasted. It's sickening!

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Easy. It's not like the coaches contract inhibits our ability to make moves. They could fire Monty tomorrow and not hinder us any. Even if the contract is guaranteed.

I'm not even suggesting going that far, but I'm just sick of his rotations. I like everything else about him however.

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Originally Posted by iNolaNightmare

Dell or Mickey need to sit down with Monty and talk to him about rotations if possible. I love Monty. I couldn't imagine anyone else coaching this team.

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Mickey don't know nothing bout basketball....thats Dell's job. Mickey was just around really so he could have something to do while he was suspended.

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Originally Posted by AD23forMVP

Monty benched Greivis...interesting.

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Crossing my fingers that he was just traded ;)

All this talk of Thompson. Rivers is like .10 below Thompson on the year ft shooting

when monty is interviewed by local media does anyone ask him why he keeps AD on the bench in the fourth?

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Originally Posted by nolaslim213

Crossing my fingers that he was just traded ;)

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For Eric Bledsoe.

I'm crossing a giant's fingers for that.

Well that was a great play drawn up. SMDH

ROBERTS FOR 333333333!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Jon Barry really LOVES Roberts :hihi:

All that fouling was killing me. Good it is over.

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Davis and Rivers both got 30mins tonight, don't know why people are getting so pissed, people get pissed when Monty sticks with hot hand over our talent but people immediately call for ryno to come out because he is struggling of late, Davis was also 0-5 in his first 27 mins btw and Lopez was doing ok offensively and we were losing. Davis is 19 years old he doesn't need 35 minutes a game, he'll probably get closer to that next season anyway, same old stuff on here

Monty should have benched himself tonight.

"Roberts, he could be a special player."

:hihi:

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Originally Posted by Shelbywmccarty

All this talk of Thompson. Rivers is like .10 below Thompson on the year ft shooting

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...what? Thompson is shooting 87% from the stripe.

If Greivis is ever traded, I'll be furious. He legitimately wants to be here and supports this franchise through thick and thin and plays his butt off. He's underrated in the league and on this board.

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Originally Posted by superstar7th

when monty is interviewed by local media does anyone ask him why he keeps AD on the bench in the fourth?

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You really think the local media is smart enough to ask actual questions?

Good news!

With this loss we now have the 5th worst record in the NBA while the Cavs have the 6th.

Yeah boi!!!!!

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Originally Posted by HunnyB

What are we going to do in the 4th? They're calling Irving "Mr. 4th Quarter".

I put my tv on mute in the 3rd. I got tired of the rabble babble.

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Originally Posted by BallSoHard

I think we'll end up losing by like 2-4 points TBH.

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Welp, I was 1 point off.

Funny story:

The local media is fair-weather as all hell.

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Originally Posted by Eman5805

"Roberts, he could be a special player."

:hihi:



...what? Thompson is shooting 87% from the stripe.

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Originally Posted by jgman

Davis and Rivers both got 30mins tonight, don't know why people are getting so pissed, people get pissed when Monty sticks with hot hand over our talent but people immediately call for ryno to come out because he is struggling of late, Davis was also 0-5 in his first 27 mins btw and Lopez was doing ok offensively and we were losing. Davis is 19 years old he doesn't need 35 minutes a game, he'll probably get closer to that next season anyway, same old stuff on here

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No. No. No. No. And further more, no.

Can't look at the aggregate minutes accrued and not mention how it took Robin Lopez fouling out to get Davis back in the game.

It's not the quantity of minutes that's drawing people's ire. It's the quality of the minutes. We're in dire straights, Irving is getting to the basket at well when you have a player, I mean no one even shoots the same kind of shots when Davis is near the basket because of the mere threat of the shot block. That right there lowers shot percentages without Davis moving a muscle.

Then immediately Davis runs the floor, gets a basket in transition, then tips in a missed shot for a basket. We aren't contending for a title and a green rookie is a liability. If Davis is going to get used to winning, how the hell is benching him for 75% of the 4th gonna help?

And he was 0-5 on a bunch of 17 foot jumpers that he's streaky on. Whenever he went inside, he got fouled and converted from the stripe. That's called box score watching, my friend.

17 free throws in the 4th for Cleveland?

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Rivers had a good game tonight

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Originally Posted by HunnyB

17 free throws in the 4th for Cleveland?

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Tons of Intentional fouls at the end.

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Originally Posted by Eman5805

Easy. It's not like the coaches contract inhibits our ability to make moves. They could fire Monty tomorrow and not hinder us any. Even if the contract is guaranteed.

I'm not even suggesting going that far, but I'm just sick of his rotations. I like everything else about him however.

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I agree with you Eman, but something is very wrong with what is going on here. When you have casual fans that recognize these horrible rotations that continue to hurt the team and development of our young talent mostly AD, then something has to change. I think we can all agree Monty is a great human being and very likable but the horrible in game management cannot continue if we as a fan base what to see this team succeed and win.

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Originally Posted by iNolaNightmare

If Greivis is ever traded, I'll be furious. He legitimately wants to be here and supports this franchise through thick and thin and plays his butt off. He's underrated in the league and on this board.

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This. U guys are mean to the General for stupid reasons. He is the heart of this team right now.

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Originally Posted by jgman

Davis and Rivers both got 30mins tonight, don't know why people are getting so pissed, people get pissed when Monty sticks with hot hand over our talent but people immediately call for ryno to come out because he is struggling of late, Davis was also 0-5 in his first 27 mins btw and Lopez was doing ok offensively and we were losing. Davis is 19 years old he doesn't need 35 minutes a game, he'll probably get closer to that next season anyway, same old stuff on here

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This. Everybody is screaming for Davis as if he was setting the court on fire and then put on the bench. 30mins is fine for Davis a game especially for on the days when his shot is off.

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Originally Posted by Eman5805

No. No. No. No. And further more, no.

Can't look at the aggregate minutes accrued and not mention how it took Robin Lopez fouling out to get Davis back in the game.

It's not the quantity of minutes that's drawing people's ire. It's the quality of the minutes. We're in dire straights, Irving is getting to the basket at well when you have a player, I mean no one even shoots the same kind of shots when Davis is near the basket because of the mere threat of the shot block. That right there lowers shot percentages without Davis moving a muscle.

Then immediately Davis runs the floor, gets a basket in transition, then tips in a missed shot for a basket. We aren't contending for a title and a green rookie is a liability. If Davis is going to get used to winning, how the hell is benching him for 75% of the 4th gonna help?

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I agree. Good post Eman. When you have someone continually going into the paint and you have a guy that changes shots sitting on the bench... it just ain't right. Monty don't know when to re-insert players that likely can/will make a difference.

Irving scored 20 pts in the last 6:43 of the game

I think he outscored the Hornets in the 4th

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Originally Posted by UNO Gracias

Good news!

With this loss we now have the 5th worst record in the NBA while the Cavs have the 6th.

Yeah boi!!!!!

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I'm with you! :1pmusic2:

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Originally Posted by HunnyB

17 free throws in the 4th for Cleveland?

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NBA officiating at its finest.

We're all tripping. Benson told Monty "nah look, you don't wanna try to win too many games cuz we want anotha one o those top draft picks ya hea?"

:hihi:

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Originally Posted by JJackisangry

NBA officiating at its finest.

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That makes me sick. Sometimes I wonder why I bother with the train wreck that is the NBA.

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Originally Posted by HunnyB

We're all tripping. Benson told Monty "nah look, you don't wanna try to win too many games cuz we want anotha one o those top draft picks ya hea?"

:hihi:

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:hihi:

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Originally Posted by Silverfoxx

This. U guys are mean to the General for stupid reasons. He is the heart of this team right now.

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Terrible defense is not a stupid reason. I love his effort. I love his grit. I don't want him traded. I want him coming off the bench and not being hung out to dry trying to make Kyrie Irving work harder to score. No one can stop him. But we need more.

It's my madness mantra for this team. More.

I like a lot of things about this team, but we just need more. More Davis late. More Rivers making shots at the rim. More rebounding. More of our highest paid player actually playing.

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Originally Posted by HunnyB

We're all tripping. Benson told Monty "nah look, you don't wanna try to win too many games cuz we want anotha one o those top draft picks ya hea?"

:hihi:

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"A lotta teams these days...they're just all runnin around, (*hands flailing*) ya know. But WE got a team that knows how to lose with...some pride."

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Originally Posted by superstar7th

when monty is interviewed by local media does anyone ask him why he keeps AD on the bench in the fourth?

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The answer is No! There is such poor coverage of this team in this city it's disgusting. If this was going on with the Saints it would be discussed daily on sports talk and local Media would be asking these questions.

If Greivis is the heart of the team, then its time for a heart transplant.

I think we lose the game even if Davis is playing, for the record. Irving was on fire. If he couldn't get to the rim, he'd just hit stepback jumpers. But if we gotta lose, I wanna see us go down swinging. Not with Achilles confined to his tent.

I think we all need to take our pills. We will get a good draft pick this year and hopefully the Gordon situation (should he stay or should he go) gets resolved. We have cap space and we're not afraid to use it!

I want him off the bench as well. But imagining this team without Greivis and/or Monty, is something I find mentally impossible.

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Originally Posted by BuzzmanD

The answer is No! There is such poor coverage of this team in this city it's disgusting. If this was going on with the Saints it would be discussed daily on sports talk and local Media would be asking these questions.

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Even if they're just as iggn'ant sounding, we need a Bobby and Deke for the Hornets.

Hell, I'll do it! Sign me up, Benson!

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Originally Posted by Pelicans78

If Greivis is the heart of the team, then its time for a heart transplant.

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Bwahaha. We really needed gravy's scoring tonight. We didnt need his defense though.

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Originally Posted by Eman5805

Terrible defense is not a stupid reason. I love his effort. I love his grit. I don't want him traded. I want him coming off the bench and not being hung out to dry trying to make Kyrie Irving work harder to score. No one can stop him. But we need more.

It's my madness mantra for this team. More.

I like a lot of things about this team, but we just need more. More Davis late. More Rivers making shots at the rim. More rebounding. More of our highest paid player actually playing.

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Lol I know Eman, I was just doing my. Jillian impression from Family Guy :hihi:

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Originally Posted by Eman5805

Even if they're just as iggn'ant sounding, we need a Bobby and Deke for the Hornets.

Hell, I'll do it! Sign me up, Benson!

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Bobby and Deke talking about the Hornets just = Gordon Bashing..... Seriously thats the only time i hear them talking about the hornets (for whatever reason i listen to those tards every day...i miss Gerry)

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Originally Posted by Silverfoxx

Lol I know Eman, I was just doing my. Jillian impression from Family Guy :hihi:

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The bombshell that has sex with dogs and thinks Hitler is still alive and active? Classic.

Our starting bigs only played 45 combined minutes tonight.

We're taking advantage of something that has been a huge rarity for this team forever.

A player whom is not bad by any means, he's actually pretty solid. He'll win the most improved player. He's a leader and maybe should be a backup but here's the reality: This is a guy who wants to be here and is committed for the long run. He gives it all on the court. And guess what? He wants to be here. He loves this team. Guess what else? He's sticking through an enormous rebuild and has done everything asked of him and has exceeded expectations. Oh and he's loyal and wants to be here.

That man is Greivis Vasquez.

Yes, he was made out to be a fool by Kyrie tonight, but who hasn't Kyrie made out to be a fool lately? I'm not saying he's our long term starter, but we're not realizing what's in front of us.

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Originally Posted by Eman5805

No. No. No. No. And further more, no.

Can't look at the aggregate minutes accrued and not mention how it took Robin Lopez fouling out to get Davis back in the game.

It's not the quantity of minutes that's drawing people's ire. It's the quality of the minutes. We're in dire straights, Irving is getting to the basket at well when you have a player, I mean no one even shoots the same kind of shots when Davis is near the basket because of the mere threat of the shot block. That right there lowers shot percentages without Davis moving a muscle.

Then immediately Davis runs the floor, gets a basket in transition, then tips in a missed shot for a basket. We aren't contending for a title and a green rookie is a liability. If Davis is going to get used to winning, how the hell is benching him for 75% of the 4th gonna help?

And he was 0-5 on a bunch of 17 foot jumpers that he's streaky on. Whenever he went inside, he got fouled and converted from the stripe. That's called box score watching, my friend.

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I watched the game. If Robin doesn't foul out then Davis gets about his average minutes a game, which I for one am completely fine with because he is only 19 years old. You say Davis needs to get used to winning well then he shouldn't be out there in the 4th quarter at all because we lose 2/3 of our games. I also completely disagree when you say him being in the game, without him moving a muscle, would hinder kyrie from killing us. Yes Davis is great on D and shot blocking but that isn't gonna stop Kyrie from exploiting the hell out of Vasquez or our D in general, dribble penetration = us making bad rotations it happens all the time, maybe he alters a shot or two but then maybe he misses another jumper or two. Saying he was 0-5 on a bunch of jumpers is not a defense of him, why are his only 5 attempts jumpers? and he got to the line 4 times but he didn't finish anything but one bucket in transition, and 1 tip in, not to mention only 4 rebounds to go along with 4 fouls, sounds like an off night to me.

the dude is fine, he doesn't need to be getting the minutes everyone keeps screaming for and giving those minutes to him won't necessarily help us win, especially tonight when we are losing in the 4th and need scoring and floor spacing, on D the only problem was Irving and that happens because Irving is simply a great player, that and us "fouling" every possession. I am just ranting, but I am just gonna say that there is no 100% correct argument that Davis should be getting an average of say ~35mins a night, especially a night like tonight, when there plenty of reasons, that support us having a better chance to win, to give those minutes to others. I feel people call for Davis to get more minutes because he is the only one on our team who can do no wrong at the moment, everyone else is so highly scrutinized and futures are uncertain because of how bad we are

Vasquez simply shouldn't be put in a situation where he can get abused like that. Can't wait until we find that PG that can push him to his right spot on the bench.

Another thing, Davis may not have been shooting well but they were fouling him. He made ALL of his free throws tonight. He was at least able to get to the line and knock em down tonight.