MAJOR ANNOUNCEMENT, Scott fired, Bower H/C, Floyd new asst...{merged}

Quote:

---

Originally Posted by hornetslover89

DWest needs to chill and start playing better basketball. Mr. Allstar needs to look at his production and see that he got the coach fired. Maybe he's happy to have the coach back that drafted him in the first place. Timmy "Worst Coach in Nba History" Floyd.

CP3 I hope you defect like BD and Mashburn. This team has no direction or vision. For years I said this team has lack a true scouting department and now we feel the effect of an older team and no developing of younger players. We can blame BS and he deserve some blame but Bower also played a part in this whole drama. I agree with BS being fired but I also think Bower should be packing also.

---

Sir!! NO ONE on this site who is a "true" Hornets fan want to see statements like these! Goodness... :hot:

Quote:

---

Originally Posted by hornetslover89

CP3 I hope you defect like BD and Mashburn.

---

Really? Are you a Hornets fan or a CP fan? Why on Earth would you want CP3 to leave???

Sounds like West may have led the revolution? He said similar things after last nights game. I don't blame him. But his response to the stagnation and lack of creativity was stand around and play matador defense.

CP3 not talking to media -- bad sign.

Rift between CP3 and West?

I was thinking this morning about how I would handle the situation if I were GM/Owner. CP3 is incredibly loyal, so he would never tell you to fire Scott. Whether he thought a change should be made or not, he would never want to be the "coach killer" or even come anywhere close. At the same time, you want him to be happy with the moves you make. Tough situation. But like I said, it boils down to winning. If you think you can make a change that will bring back winning, then CP3 will be happy, and you have to trust your own judgment. So who better to hire than yourself?

So, does this mean that Bower will be head coach for the rest of the season, or do you guys think he's just like a bandaid for a number of games until they hire someone more permanent later in the season?

This could get interesting...

Quote:

---

Originally Posted by hornetslover89

DWest needs to chill and start playing better basketball. Mr. Allstar needs to look at his production and see that he got the coach fired. Maybe he's happy to have the coach back that drafted him in the first place. Timmy "Worst Coach in Nba History" Floyd.

CP3 I hope you defect like BD and Mashburn. This team has no direction or vision. For years I said this team has lack a true scouting department and now we feel the effect of an older team and no developing of younger players. We can blame BS and he deserve some blame but Bower also played a part in this whole drama. I agree with BS being fired but I also think Bower should be packing also.

---

West has only taken more than 15 shots once this season. You make it sound like he is shooting a terrible percentage or something. His percentages are right where they always are, its not his fault that when he tries to dish it back out and re-organize, someone jacks up an errant shot.

ahh that doesn't say much. if cp3's brother had said something like "my brother has lost interest in playing for a team with no direction like the hornets" then i would be worried.

Talk about a panic move :p

CJ is a person which needs some English lessons.

Quote:

---

Originally Posted by Big Fan

Sounds like West may have led the revolution? He said similar things after last nights game. I don't blame him. But his response to the stagnation and lack of creativity was stand around and play matador defense.

CP3 not talking to media -- bad sign.

Rift between CP3 and West?

I was thinking this morning about how I would handle the situation if I were GM/Owner. CP3 is incredibly loyal, so he would never tell you to fire Scott. Whether he thought a change should be made or not, he would never want to be the "coach killer" or even come anywhere close. At the same time, you want him to be happy with the moves you make. Tough situation. But like I said, it boils down to winning. If you think you can make a change that will bring back winning, then CP3 will be happy, and you have to trust your own judgment. So who better to hire than yourself?

---

REALLY hope that's NOT the case..but if it is...that's a REALLY easy fix....buh-bye Mr. West!

Quote:

---

Originally Posted by Big Fan

CJ is a person which needs some English lessons.

---

To be fair, it's Twitter. Not exactly a bastion of grammar with 140 characters or less.

Hopefully we hit that powerball in June

Quote:

---

Originally Posted by Big Fan

Sounds like West may have led the revolution? He said similar things after last nights game. I don't blame him. But his response to the stagnation and lack of creativity was stand around and play matador defense.

CP3 not talking to media -- bad sign.

Rift between CP3 and West?

I was thinking this morning about how I would handle the situation if I were GM/Owner. CP3 is incredibly loyal, so he would never tell you to fire Scott. Whether he thought a change should be made or not, he would never want to be the "coach killer" or even come anywhere close. At the same time, you want him to be happy with the moves you make. Tough situation. But like I said, it boils down to winning. If you think you can make a change that will bring back winning, then CP3 will be happy, and you have to trust your own judgment. So who better to hire than yourself?

---

I think you might be looking into this too closely.

Quote:

---

Originally Posted by UNO Gracias

ahh that doesn't say much. if cp3's brother had said something like "my brother has lost interest in playing for a team with no direction like the hornets" then i would be worried.

---

CJ has Chris' ear.

Quote:

---

Originally Posted by metalzo

To be fair, it's Twitter. Not exactly a bastion of grammar with 250 words or less.

---

You mean 140 characters or less, right?

Quote:

---

Originally Posted by killah

You mean 140 characters or less, right?

---

Woops yeah. Sorry don't use twitter and I did mean characters not words :)

CJ latest:

cjpaul14 I can't stand when ppl that don't know Basketball, make major basketball decisions. It turns out to be a disaster.

Quote:

---

Originally Posted by DenatureX

CJ latest:

cjpaul14 I can't stand when ppl that don't know Basketball, make major basketball decisions. It turns out to be a disaster.

---

Oh no.....:help:

Lottery (top-5) here we come!

Quote:

---

Originally Posted by DenatureX

CJ latest:

cjpaul14 I can't stand when ppl that don't know Basketball, make major basketball decisions. It turns out to be a disaster.

---

CJ is just pissed because he wants chris to make more money in a bigger market so that he can make more money.

Something tells me CJ doesnt know much about basketball either...there is a reason GMs are in their position(hard work) and then their is you CJ(I am an agent because my talented brother doesnt want to see me on the streets)

One thing I've noticed about CJ is that he always calls N.O. home. He sometimes act like it's home before North Carolina. Is that all a show for twitter?

Quote:

---

I can't stand when ppl that don't know Basketball, make major basketball decisions. It turns out to be a disaster.

---

Quote:

---

8 minutes ago from UberTwitter Today has not been a good day. The Team let go of Coach Scott which I think was a very good coach.He's the only NBA coach my bro has known.

---

Quote:

---

about 1 hour ago from UberTwitter Wheels down!!! Just landed back in NO. So happy to be home for 1 day and then back on the road. I have to unpack to pack again.

---

Quote:

---

Originally Posted by DroopyDawg

Lottery (top-5) here we come!

---

Yep...and with the right moves we can win 40 or so games next year and be competitive. Then get yet another lottery pick and hopefully be a contender in 2 years. As we know in the NBA, gotta get real bad to get real good, and we're finally on that track.

you know its bad when OKC is doing better than us

Quote:

---

Originally Posted by Tmon818

Something tells me CJ doesnt know much about basketball either...there is a reason GMs are in their position(hard work) and then their is you CJ(I am an agent because my talented brother doesnt want to see me on the streets)

---

This made me :hihi: .

Quote:

---

Originally Posted by jmaninc68

you know its bad when OKC is doing better than us

---

I know people here like to hate on them, but their management seems first rate to me. Whether Benson will spend to make them a real contender is yet to be seen but they've got a great young core and have made very wise personnel decisions. Expect them to finish ahead of us at least this year and next year.

I love Kevin Durantula!

we are about to see a lot of the rookies.

Is CJ a "basketball person"?

Quote:

---

Originally Posted by Big Fan

Is CJ a "basketball person"?

---

i think he is the only person who considers himself a "basketball person"

Quote:

---

Originally Posted by davehornet

One of the listed comments on the timeline on nola.com is Bower saying that he is not an interim coach. He is the head coach. No job search for the head coaching position will be conducted. He also will remain as General Manager.

Scary, if you ask me.

davehornet.

---

Good catch... this sucks even more. :idoh:

Sure Byron had to go... but bower? FLoyd may be OK as an assistant... but Bower? :idoh: :idoh:

I have this nasty feeling inside the Bower might have an "OK" rest of the season and we sign him to a 3-4 year contract

All of the sudden we would fall into Clipper territory(Mike Dunleavy GM/coach)

Quote:

---

Originally Posted by Tmon818

I have this nasty feeling inside the Bower might have an "OK" rest of the season and we sign him to a 3-4 year contract

All of the sudden we would fall into Clipper territory(Mike Dunleavy GM/coach)

---

well i pray that you are wrong with the bold part lol

Quote:

---

Originally Posted by Tmon818

I have this nasty feeling inside the Bower might have an "OK" rest of the season and we sign him to a 3-4 year contract

All of the sudden we would fall into Clipper territory(Mike Dunleavy GM/coach)

---

I'm not too worried about that. I expect us to win 30 games at best and Bower to be gone after the season. We just don't have the personnel to win that many games...IMO West, Peja, Devin Brown, MoPete, and Posey are all worse for the wear and Paris and Wright haven't progressed much if at all.

So West said they won't be as 'predicatable' as they had been. Anyone ever notice that Scott always talked about being an uptempo team but CP wouldn't exactly push the ball up to become uptempo. Was this because he didn't have players to run alongside him or because he didn't want to be uptempo?

Quote:

---

2:18 p.m.: West says having played for Floyd before, the team will not be as "predictable" as it had been.

---

Weren't people here saying things like "the Hornets have been figured out"? Is West saying the same thing?

Quote:

---

2:14 p.m.: West describes "philosophical differences" between Scott and some players on the team. He describes the team as often "stagnant."

---

Quote:

---

2:12 p.m.: West: "I think we got to the point to where things we were doing just weren't effective."

---

So he's basically saying Scott's ways weren't working.

ESPN now has a Marc Stein interview up and of course he mentions our "money problems" first

http://sports.espn.go.com/nba/news/story?id=4648162

Quote:

---

Originally Posted by metalzo

I'm not too worried about that. I expect us to win 30 games at best and Bower to be gone after the season. We just don't have the personnel to win that many games...IMO West, Peja, Devin Brown, MoPete, and Posey are all worse for the wear and Paris and Wright haven't progressed much if at all.

---

sadly i agree with you, i really have not been that impressed with west this season

Quote:

---

Originally Posted by Tmon818

ESPN now has a Marc Stein interview up and of course he mentions our "money problems" first

http://sports.espn.go.com/nba/news/story?id=4648162

---

But of course.

We've run the same offensive set for 3 years now... Denver exposed us in the playoffs. We need some variety in our offense. But Bower?

Quote:

---

Originally Posted by Tmon818

ESPN now has a Marc Stein interview up and of course he mentions our "money problems" first

http://sports.espn.go.com/nba/news/story?id=4648162

---

The woman in the clip referred to our new coach as "Jeff BowerS" twice :)

Quote:

---

Originally Posted by metalzo

The woman in the clip referred to our new coach as "Jeff BowerS" twice :)

---

She also failed to mention Floyd being a former Hornets coach but noted USC and Chicago

Wow, what a day.

Getting rid of Scott? Great move, albeit early.

Bringing on Bower as HC? Awful move. A chicken-**** move. Looks like Shinn doesn't want to throw any extra $$ to deal with the HC headache. He better bring someone in by next season at the latest or we are in disaster mode.

Brigning back Floyd as an AC? Bad move. Shows that we need some player development and Floyd will work on that a bit, but this is a re-tread coming back. I like Floyd as a person and a college coach, but I don't want him involved with our NBA franchise. The players are not going to respect this guy. They all quit on him back in 2003-04. We have different players now, true, but even DX was a different player then. He was a rook and was pretty much a nobody in the game. Now he is someone, even if he has his own issues on the court. I don't see too many Hornets players responding well to Floyd. Peja will, but he can't hit a shot right now. And Floyd can't simply demand respect, he has to earn it.

CP3: I suspect he is as good as gone. CJ is irrelevant, but his comments tend to shed some light on CP3 may view this situation. I agree that his lack of comment does not bode well. He probably has learned that when you are really ticked off, keep your mouth shut, sleep on it, and then come back the next day.

Front Office: A total joke of a franchise. We look like the Memphis Grizzlies, who have had a lot of bad years and a couple of decent years. We are bouncing up and down just like they are. The Grizzlies are not respected league-wide and that starts and finishes with the owner, Michael Heisley.

HH: Has done a great job bringing us information. Some of you guys clearly don't like his style, but please don't knock him here. He doesn't deserve that and I would ask you all to reserve taking shots at him in public. If you don't like what he or someone else says, do what your momma says to do and keep quiet. In the alternative, respond to him in private. I want to thank HH for the committment he brings to the site. If he had not done what he did, the forum would be very disjointed today. This board is the best Hornets fan site out there, in part, because of his efforts. I am sure he has other work he must do today not related to the Hornets. And in case you haven't noticed, he is tooting the horn of the site a bit today because of all the work done. He, and others, work tirelessly to make this the best Hornets news and information site available on the web, as well as the best site for all of us to talk about it, good or bad.

George: ''Jeff you **** on the floor, now you clean it up.''

Quote:

---

Originally Posted by West Coast Hornet

Wow, what a day.

Getting rid of Scott? Great move, albeit early.

Bringing on Bower as HC? Awful move. A chicken-**** move. Looks like Shinn doesn't want to throw any extra $$ to deal with the HC headache. He better bring someone in by next season at the latest or we are in disaster mode.

Brigning back Floyd as an AC? Bad move. Shows that we need some player development and Floyd will work on that a bit, but this is a re-tread coming back. I like Floyd as a person and a college coach, but I don't want him involved with our NBA franchise. The players are not going to respect this guy. They all quit on him back in 2003-04. We have different players now, true, but even DX was a different player then. He was a rook and was pretty much a nobody in the game. Now he is someone, even if he has his own issues on the court. I don't see too many Hornets players responding well to Floyd. Peja will, but he can't hit a shot right now. And Floyd can't simply demand respect, he has to earn it.

CP3: I suspect he is as good as gone. CJ is irrelevant, but his comments tend to shed some light on CP3 may view this situation. I agree that his lack of comment does not bode well. He probably has learned that when you are really ticked off, keep your mouth shut, sleep on it, and then come back the next day.

Front Office: A total joke of a franchise. We look like the Memphis Grizzlies, who have had a lot of bad years and a couple of decent years. We are bouncing up and down just like they are. The Grizzlies are not respected league-wide and that starts and finishes with the owner, Michael Heisley.

HH: Has done a great job bringing us information. Some of you guys clearly don't like his style, but please don't knock him here. He doesn't deserve that and I would ask you all to reserve taking shots at him in public. If you don't like what he or someone else says, do what your momma says to do and keep quiet. In the alternative, respond to him in private. I want to thank HH for the committment he brings to the site. If he had not done what he did, the forum would be very disjointed today. This board is the best Hornets fan site out there, in part, because of his efforts. I am sure he has other work he must do today not related to the Hornets. And in case you haven't noticed, he is tooting the horn of the site a bit today because of all the work done. He, and others, work tirelessly to make this the best Hornets news and information site available on the web, as well as the best site for all of us to talk about it, good or bad.

---

Totally agree! ;)

Quote:

---

Originally Posted by NIH

George: ''Jeff you **** on the floor, now you clean it up.''

---

My new signature.

Quote:

---

Originally Posted by West Coast Hornet

HH: Has done a great job bringing us information. Some of you guys clearly don't like his style, but please don't knock him here. He doesn't deserve that and I would ask you all to reserve taking shots at him in public. If you don't like what he or someone else says, do what your momma says to do and keep quiet. In the alternative, respond to him in private. I want to thank HH for the committment he brings to the site. If he had not done what he did, the forum would be very disjointed today. This board is the best Hornets fan site out there, in part, because of his efforts. I am sure he has other work he must do today not related to the Hornets. And in case you haven't noticed, he is tooting the horn of the site a bit today because of all the work done. He, and others, work tirelessly to make this the best Hornets news and information site available on the web, as well as the best site for all of us to talk about it, good or bad.

---

Well put.

Quote:

---

Originally Posted by West Coast Hornet

Wow, what a day.

Getting rid of Scott? Great move, albeit early.

Bringing on Bower as HC? Awful move. A chicken-**** move. Looks like Shinn doesn't want to throw any extra $$ to deal with the HC headache. He better bring someone in by next season at the latest or we are in disaster mode.

Brigning back Floyd as an AC? Bad move. Shows that we need some player development and Floyd will work on that a bit, but this is a re-tread coming back. I like Floyd as a person and a college coach, but I don't want him involved with our NBA franchise. The players are not going to respect this guy. They all quit on him back in 2003-04. We have different players now, true, but even DX was a different player then. He was a rook and was pretty much a nobody in the game. Now he is someone, even if he has his own issues on the court. I don't see too many Hornets players responding well to Floyd. Peja will, but he can't hit a shot right now. And Floyd can't simply demand respect, he has to earn it.

CP3: I suspect he is as good as gone. CJ is irrelevant, but his comments tend to shed some light on CP3 may view this situation. I agree that his lack of comment does not bode well. He probably has learned that when you are really ticked off, keep your mouth shut, sleep on it, and then come back the next day.

Front Office: A total joke of a franchise. We look like the Memphis Grizzlies, who have had a lot of bad years and a couple of decent years. We are bouncing up and down just like they are. The Grizzlies are not respected league-wide and that starts and finishes with the owner, Michael Heisley.

HH: Has done a great job bringing us information. Some of you guys clearly don't like his style, but please don't knock him here. He doesn't deserve that and I would ask you all to reserve taking shots at him in public. If you don't like what he or someone else says, do what your momma says to do and keep quiet. In the alternative, respond to him in private. I want to thank HH for the committment he brings to the site. If he had not done what he did, the forum would be very disjointed today. This board is the best Hornets fan site out there, in part, because of his efforts. I am sure he has other work he must do today not related to the Hornets. And in case you haven't noticed, he is tooting the horn of the site a bit today because of all the work done. He, and others, work tirelessly to make this the best Hornets news and information site available on the web, as well as the best site for all of us to talk about it, good or bad.

---

Please elaborate!

Scott is gone... wow... I'm in shock ;) Let's go Bower :D

Chris is about as good as gone, might as well face the reality now rather than down the road.

How long do you think CP3 will stand losing. He loves winning. This team as is, can not win. If he's already fustrated less than 10 games in, how do you think he'll feel as 1 season.... then 2 seasons? There's your answer.

Quote:

---

Originally Posted by DroopyDawg

Lottery (top-5) here we come!

---

:1drool: I wish..