Free Agency Thread

I'd be honoured to have knight and his contract as opposed to Asik

are there new rumors with the Pels & Suns popping up? Why is Bledsoe and Knight now being thrown around?

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Originally Posted by fullcourtpress

I'd be honoured to have knight and his contract as opposed to Asik

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True. You can still play Knight. Asik you can still hand him a towel on occasion and ask him to wave it.

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Originally Posted by NMThreeMVP

Not even close.

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I've already said this in this thread, but he was 464 out of 468 players in he league in real plus minus. He was LITERALLY one of the worst players in the entire league. And he is owed 3 years and $45 million, making him probably the single worst contract in the league.

Are we also going to get back Evan Turner, Luol Deng and Mosgov? Because that would be better for us.

This doesn't even mention that we are up against the luxury tax and taking on a salary like that is completely unrealistic along with Bledsoe.

Long story short, let's please not mention Knight again as someone that is even a possible Pelican.

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Originally Posted by rt0307

are there new rumors with the Pels & Suns popping up? Why is Bledsoe and Knight now being thrown around?

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One of our kind has put together this deal

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Originally Posted by DefensiveMind

I've been saying... the ONLY shot we have at Bledsoe means taking Knight too. PHX couldn't even get a 2nd rounder for him at the deadline. 45+ million owed to him over the next three years. That's the negative asset we need to take off their hands to make our pupu platter worthwhile.

The Trade:

Bledsoe
Knight

For

Ajinca
Pondexter
Cook
Crawford
Toupane
Asik
1st rd pick
1st rd swap option
2nd pick


If my math is correct that saves them 2-9 million this summer, 15 million next summer, and another 10-12 million the summer after.
We are stuck holding the bag for Knight into a third year when he could be a prime candidate for a buyout, stretch or *hopefully* trade filler for a blockbuster deal (his salary could prove valuable if a team needs to dump a star) to cap off the BoogieBrow experiment. I'm not a cap guru but I think this can be the parameter of an overall net positive trade for the Pels.



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Originally Posted by UNO Gracias

True. You can still play Knight. Asik you can still hand him a towel on occasion and ask him to wave it.

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It's 2 years and $24 million vs 3 years and $45 million.

And I would rather Asik waiving a towel than actually having Knight on the court for us.

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Originally Posted by UNO Gracias

I don't think anyone does, but if it is the necessary evil required to land Bledsoe, its not exactly swallowing poison.

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If have to chew on cellophane in order to get Bledsoe?! I try for Lin & if he becomes a 1 yr guy, then we go after Wall. Or sign Rondo on the short.

For my own health/sanity can Phoenix not be mentioned unless something substantial is found.

Yeah, I guess that is true. If getting Bledsoe requires you to take Knight then that would eliminate Wall next year. But there must be another way to get Bledsoe and Wall. We need to talk to the guy at Kentucky who was paying them all, maybe we could pick his brain to see what he did.

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Originally Posted by UNO Gracias

One of our kind has put together this deal

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oh ok thanks... I'm going back to sleep... wake me when a real trade happens

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Originally Posted by fullcourtpress

For my own health/sanity can Phoenix not be mentioned unless something substantial is found.

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Or you could just not pay attention to the post. But, if it bothers you to the point of insanity- Seek professional help-ASAP . Good luck .

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Originally Posted by Spaniard

I've already said this in this thread, but he was 464 out of 468 players in he league in real plus minus. He was LITERALLY one of the worst players in the entire league. And he is owed 3 years and $45 million, making him probably the single worst contract in the league.

Are we also going to get back Evan Turner, Luol Deng and Mosgov? Because that would be better for us.

This doesn't even mention that we are up against the luxury tax and taking on a salary like that is completely unrealistic along with Bledsoe.

Long story short, let's please not mention Knight again as someone that is even a possible Pelican.

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RPM is a single stat that doesn't always tell the entire story of who a guy was playing with, injuries, or whether or not he was put in the right position to succeed. Tony Parker, Avery Bradley, Dennis Schroder, Shaun Livingston, Chris Dunn, Dante Exum, Reggie Jackson, Emmanuel Mudiay, Jordan Clarkson, Wade Baldwin... which one of these would you turn down if we could get them on this team? They all had negative RPM. Some are vets, some are younger players. It's one advanced stat. Give it rest. It's not the be all, end all of basketball.

Atlanta will not match New York's $71M offer sheet to Tim Hardaway Jr., but official notification still hours away, sources tell ESPN.

— Adrian Wojnarowski (@wojespn) July 8, 2017

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Originally Posted by UNO Gracias

Yeah, I guess that is true. If getting Bledsoe requires you to take Knight then that would eliminate Wall next year. But there must be another way to get Bledsoe and Wall. We need to talk to the guy at Kentucky who was paying them all, maybe we could pick his brain to see what he did.

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The only way you're getting Wall as a free agent is if Wall doesn't sign his extension. That's a lot of money to give up. I really don't see players passing up on the super max.

Best case scenario for us would be Wall signing his super max, the Wiz failing to make the playoffs in a crappy East, and us being able to trade Holiday, other salary, and picks for Wall. Wall, if he ever came, would be a Holiday replacement and I don' think taking on Knight in order to get Bledsoe changes the dynamic much.

The Atlanta Hawks have renounced FA rights for Thabo Sefolosha & Kris Humphries.

— Keith Smith (@KeithSmithNBA) July 8, 2017

I mentioned Thabo a while back as someone I'd like to add to compete with Hill and add depth to our wing. Solid vet.

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Originally Posted by NMThreeMVP

The only way you're getting Wall as a free agent is if Wall doesn't sign his extension. That's a lot of money to give up. I really don't see players passing up on the super max.

Best case scenario for us would be Wall signing his super max, the Wiz failing to make the playoffs in a crappy East, and us being able to trade Holiday, other salary, and picks for Wall. Wall, if he ever came, would be a Holiday replacement and I don' think taking on Knight in order to get Bledsoe changes the dynamic much.

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I don't think that you can swing it financially, can you? Taking on Bledsoe, Knight, and still having a chance at Wall?

The LA Clippers have renounced FA rights for Alan Anderson, Jeff Ayres, Brandon Bass, Glen Davis, JJ Redick, Hedo Turkoglu & Ekpe Udoh.

— Keith Smith (@KeithSmithNBA) July 8, 2017

does Turkoglu still have a shot? pretty sure he was known as a 3 point specialist

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Originally Posted by rt0307

The LA Clippers have renounced FA rights for Alan Anderson, Jeff Ayres, Brandon Bass, Glen Davis, JJ Redick, Hedo Turkoglu & Ekpe Udoh.

— Keith Smith (@KeithSmithNBA) July 8, 2017

does Turkoglu still have a shot? pretty sure he was known as a 3 point specialist

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Didn't even realize hedo was still in the league

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Originally Posted by 23speedkillz

Harvey went back to the Charlotte Hornets

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Are you kidding? I'm a New Orleans native. There is nothing about the Charlotte Hornets I give a darn about.

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Originally Posted by rt0307

Atlanta will not match New York's $71M offer sheet to Tim Hardaway Jr., but official notification still hours away, sources tell ESPN.

— Adrian Wojnarowski (@wojespn) July 8, 2017

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and that is the right thing to do

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Originally Posted by NMThreeMVP

The only way you're getting Wall as a free agent is if Wall doesn't sign his extension. That's a lot of money to give up. I really don't see players passing up on the super max.

Best case scenario for us would be Wall signing his super max, the Wiz failing to make the playoffs in a crappy East, and us being able to trade Holiday, other salary, and picks for Wall. Wall, if he ever came, would be a Holiday replacement and I don' think taking on Knight in order to get Bledsoe changes the dynamic much.

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That's not a scenario at all. How can you lead with "Washington not making the playoffs?"Once you do that, the rest of the scenario is moot . Also, in this fantasy scenario, we would have to pay more than what the possibilities might otherwise be. Bledsoe would be an expiring, but Knight would not. We would have to find someone to take Knights 15 mil. If we want Wall, next year is the time to strike & YES, Knights 15plus would be a huge albatross .

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Originally Posted by PolishFan

and that is the right thing to do

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just remember... half of THJ's annual salary is due by 10/1 of each year :hihi:

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Originally Posted by Harvey

Are you kidding? I'm a New Orleans native. There is nothing about the Charlotte Hornets I give a darn about.

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Hey Harvey! Long time I could have sworn I read somewhere you were back cheering for the "Hornets". Well its good to see you pop up and still around.

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Originally Posted by Harvey

Are you kidding? I'm a New Orleans native. There is nothing about the Charlotte Hornets I give a darn about.

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Thanks for not being dead. Post more!

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Originally Posted by UNO Gracias

I don't think that you can swing it financially, can you? Taking on Bledsoe, Knight, and still having a chance at Wall?

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IMO, the problem isn't financial it's that you probably have to give up picks in order to get Bledsoe even if you also take back Knight. I really don't see players passing up the super max. Wall will sign it. Which means we'd have to trade for him after he signs it in order to get him, but we won't really have valuable picks.

Only way I see us getting Wall is if players on our team up their value. Holiday, Hill, Diallo, whoever. It sounds crazy now, but if Holiday is healthy and balling and Hill takes a leap... then we have a chance. But then we probably would be less interested in Wall for $40m per.