Who should become the first person to be drafted to the pelicans?

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03-28-2013, 10:32 PM
kclaboy504

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Originally Posted by BallSoHard

Portland is better than us 1-5 and they're not an 8 seed. Don't think we're one player away unless that player is a top 5 pg.

I dont think Portland is better than us 1-5 either. That's going a lil too far IMO. I'll just start with mathews. Idc how injured Gordon is Mathews is not better than him. Hickson and Lopez are about even IMO. He might be a little better defensively. Portland bench is horrible. You need more than 1-5 to be a playoff team. I like our bench much better than portlands.
03-28-2013, 10:32 PM
BallSoHard

Who should become the first person to be drafted to the pelicans?

Contending for an 8 seed that is.
03-28-2013, 10:34 PM
BallSoHard

Who should become the first person to be drafted to the pelicans?

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Originally Posted by kclaboy504

I dont think Portland is better than us 1-5 either. That's going a lil too far IMO. I'll just start with mathews. Idc how injured Gordon is Mathews is not better than him. Hickson and Lopez are about even IMO. He might be a little better defensively. Portland bench is horrible. You need more than 1-5 to be a playoff team. I like our bench much better than portlands.

Hickson is better than Lopez. Gordon really is the only argument.
03-28-2013, 10:42 PM
Purple Haze

I see you Carter-Williams. I see you.
03-28-2013, 10:46 PM
carpo_07

Syracuse is giving it to IU. Carter-Williams is flat out balling, although I still wouldn't take him any earlier than about 15th. Cody Zeller is proving his doubters right, he doesn't really do anything well but scores above average, tonight against a decent defense he is struggling (and not for the first time this year). Having said that giving him the ball in the high post and not even running cutters isn't going to help him. Oladipo has been decent, but would like to see more activity on the offensive end. Brandon Triche showing that he's worth a second rd pick
03-28-2013, 10:46 PM
kclaboy504

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Originally Posted by BallSoHard

Hickson is better than Lopez. Gordon really is the only argument.

He is but slightly. He is not a major upgrade over Lopez. Hickson is nothing special himself man.
03-28-2013, 10:47 PM
Pelicans78

Who should become the first person to be drafted to the pelicans?

Matthews has been better than Gordon this season. Gordon hasn't been good at all. And our bench isn't that good outside of Anderson.
03-28-2013, 10:48 PM
Pelicans78

Who should become the first person to be drafted to the pelicans?

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Originally Posted by kclaboy504

He is but slightly. He is not a major upgrade over Lopez. Hickson is nothing special himself man.

No one said Hickson was special, but he's been much better than Lopez, especially defense and rebounding.
03-28-2013, 10:50 PM
kclaboy504

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Originally Posted by BallSoHard

Cp3 is a top 5 player. I don't think we're a Burke away from contending. Portlands playoff odds are something like 14 percent right now, so I wouldnt call that "in the hunt" personally.

Portland is 3 games out of the 8 spot bro. Considering the teams in front them n holding the 8 spot. They are most def in the hunt. Until a team gets eliminated from the playoffs they Are in the hunt. I won't get into the long shots but Portland has played 2 less games than lakers and r 3 games behind them. They win their next 2 games and they r 1 game out. Anything but. Long shot. I also never said we were a Burke away either lol. I said with a much better pg upgrade we could of won 7-8 more games this year. Which puts us around Portland. Which in turn is in the hunt for an 8 seed.
03-28-2013, 10:55 PM
kclaboy504

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Originally Posted by Pelicans78

No one said Hickson was special, but he's been much better than Lopez, especially defense and rebounding.

With the season Lopez is having this year. Hickson is not that much of an upgrade to Lopez. If we were having this discussion last year then I'd say yea not even comparable. This year tho you can compare numbers and see they are producing very closely the same. Lopez is actually avg more blocks than Hickson. Hickson avgs 2 more points and 4 more rbds. Their per is the same.
03-28-2013, 10:56 PM
BallSoHard

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Originally Posted by kclaboy504

Portland is 3 games out of the 8 spot bro. Considering the teams in front them n holding the 8 spot. They are most def in the hunt. Until a team gets eliminated from the playoffs they Are in the hunt. I won't get into the long shots but Portland has played 2 less games than lakers and r 3 games behind them. They win their next 2 games and they r 1 game out. Anything but. Long shot. I also never said we were a Burke away either lol. I said with a much better pg upgrade we could of won 7-8 more games this year. Which puts us around Portland. Which in turn is in the hunt for an 8 seed.

Oh ok. So if we get a great pg which we're not we're in the running for the 8 seed. Got it.
03-28-2013, 10:58 PM
kclaboy504

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Originally Posted by Pelicans78

Matthews has been better than Gordon this season. Gordon hasn't been good at all. And our bench isn't that good outside of Anderson.

Tell me how Mathews has been better?? With limited time Gordon is still avg more everything than that dude. Sorry Mathews is not close to Gordon. Not even an out of shape coming off of injury Gordon. Lol..let alone a healthy Gordon and Mathews name isn't even in the same conversation. And yes our bench is much better than portlands bench.
03-28-2013, 11:00 PM
kclaboy504

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Originally Posted by BallSoHard

Oh ok. So if we get a great pg which we're not we're in the running for the 8 seed. Got it.

No. All I was saying was this. In games we Lost this year. We could of won 7-8 more games with better pg play. I don't care if it's Moses or Larry Hoover playing the position. Lol?..only reason the 8 seed is brought up is cause with 7-8 more wins we are in that territory. The sorry azz pg play cost us many games this year. Not sure what we don't get about that.
03-28-2013, 11:01 PM
BallSoHard

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Originally Posted by kclaboy504

No. All I was saying was this. In games we Lost this year. We could of won 7-8 more games with better pg play. I don't care if it's Moses or Larry Hoover playing the position. Lol

I can agree to that.
03-28-2013, 11:05 PM
kclaboy504

Mathews 14 2 2
Gordon 16 3 2

This is this years stats and Gordon s no where near himself. So even with him not 100% he is still playing better than Mathews. Not much but def can't say Mathews is better than Gordon this year. Nothing there to back it up.
03-28-2013, 11:07 PM
kclaboy504

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Originally Posted by BallSoHard

I can agree to that.

Yea that's all I was getting at originally. Then UNO says pg is not the reason for our short comings this year. So then I just started diggin into everything else. Lol.
03-28-2013, 11:07 PM
kclaboy504

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Originally Posted by BallSoHard

I can agree to that.

And btw I'd trade Lopez for Hickson any day.:hihi:
03-28-2013, 11:10 PM
kclaboy504

Icant wait for that Michigan Kansas game tomorrow!!! Oh boy!!!
03-28-2013, 11:12 PM
Pelicans78

Who should become the first person to be drafted to the pelicans?

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Originally Posted by kclaboy504

Tell me how Mathews has been better?? With limited time Gordon is still avg more everything than that dude. Sorry Mathews is not close to Gordon. Not even an out of shape coming off of injury Gordon. Lol..let alone a healthy Gordon and Mathews name isn't even in the same conversation. And yes our bench is much better than portlands bench.

Gordon isn't only averaging more because of his high usage. He's been terribly inefficient this season compared to Matthews. You're just looking at basic stats. Matthews has done it more efficiently. Gordon has sucked this season as a player.
03-28-2013, 11:12 PM
BallSoHard

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Originally Posted by kclaboy504

Mathews 14 2 2
Gordon 16 3 2

This is this years stats and Gordon s no where near himself. So even with him not 100% he is still playing better than Mathews. Not much but def can't say Mathews is better than Gordon this year. Nothing there to back it up.

True, but same can be said about Gordon. What is near himself anymore?
03-28-2013, 11:13 PM
UNO Gracias

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Originally Posted by kclaboy504

Yea that's all I was getting at originally. Then UNO says pg is not the reason for our short comings this year. So then I just started diggin into everything else. Lol.

But pg isn't the issue for our losses. Poor team defense, poor coaching, and bad times for injuries are.
03-28-2013, 11:15 PM
Pelicans78

Who should become the first person to be drafted to the pelicans?

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Originally Posted by kclaboy504

With the season Lopez is having this year. Hickson is not that much of an upgrade to Lopez. If we were having this discussion last year then I'd say yea not even comparable. This year tho you can compare numbers and see they are producing very closely the same. Lopez is actually avg more blocks than Hickson. Hickson avgs 2 more points and 4 more rbds. Their per is the same.

Compare their rebounding rate and then get back to me.
03-28-2013, 11:16 PM
kclaboy504

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Originally Posted by Pelicans78

Compare their rebounding rate and then get back to me.

Dude not sure what part your missing. Check my first post where I said he is much better rebounder. Then get back to me.
03-28-2013, 11:17 PM
Shelbywmccarty

Who should become the first person to be drafted to the pelicans?

I like oladipo alot. Mcw boost his stock any tonight?
03-28-2013, 11:19 PM
kclaboy504

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Originally Posted by Pelicans78

Gordon isn't only averaging more because of his high usage. He's been terribly inefficient this season compared to Matthews. You're just looking at basic stats. Matthews has done it more efficiently. Gordon has sucked this season as a player.

Idc what u put out there dude. Mathews is not the better player. Sorry just ain't. I already said he's had a bad season. Even with his bad season still ain't better than Gordon. Basic stats,advanced stats.they are all just stats either way u slice it. Do u wanna only use the stats that best fit your side of the argument??

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