Pels Off season thread

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Originally Posted by pelafanatic

What would the mood be on here if all we did to close out free agency was matched Josh Hart and brought Willy on a vet min? I would be down baddddd

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That would be unforgivable IMO. Not because I think Griff needs to go get good players to make us as good as possible this year, but because he would be wasting the Memphis trade. At the very least, take on some expiring contracts teams dont want into it. Go get Jeremy Lamb and a 2nd from Indy. Or Jake Laymen and Hernangomez from the Wolves, or Derrick Jones Jr from the Blazers. Several teams want to dump and you try to get a pick for taking them, but even if you cant, you add expirings for when the market opens back up in January.

Doing nothing else would be malpractice and I know I will crush him for it - almost as badly as I crushed him for Adams last year

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Originally Posted by P_B_&_G

From 2 days ago. Jackson may be a target.

https://www.si.com/nba/clippers/news...-from-pelicans

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Article says Pels can offer significantly more than $10 million a year to Jackson. I hope not, at least not on a multi-year deal.

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Originally Posted by PELICANSFAN

Article says Pels can offer significantly more than $10 million a year to Jackson. I hope not, at least not on a multi-year deal.

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Hopefully it would be just enough to get him to sign and nothing more. More than they can offer though.


Also, I would welcome having Jackson and Graham for a bit more than we would have had to pay Lonzo next season. I don't like losing the pic but I still thiknk having 2 good shooters is better than what Lonzo was bringing.

He’s gonna need to pull a rabbit out of his hat. Because the fact that we were throwing some really fat contracts and none of them said yes with the things we had going forward us really suggests that Griffin is doing the one thing that dooms any salesman: pitching out of desperation.


No one responds well to it and the most malicious will seek to just take advantage and screw your over.

Again, maybe he saves it…but I don’t trust the fool and it pains me he’s got the keys to the ride. And I’m really concerned about the level above him because the organization wasn’t in better hands after all. Deep pockets, empty vision? Do what a competent organization appears to need? Big fancy facility?

We shall see where things lead. Because this has been a whelming off-season. And I like Graham a good bit.

Or the NBA world views New Orleans like a 3rd world country and give it a wide berth when it comes to living here. Or something not nearly so dramatic.

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Originally Posted by djrnno

I beg to differ. The NBA more than any other other team pro sports league is run by the players. I hardly think they have the betterment of the league as their first priority. They either care about about the BAG or going to a super team in a big market to chase the ring. Don't see many super teams in the NFL. Last season was a fluke, and it was so refreshing to have 2 smaller market teams in the finals

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Referring to the players who actually create the value in the league as ''lunatics'' running the asylum, as if the people doing the work shouldn't have some degree of say in how their own working conditions are organised and how their own contracts are set up, is absurd.

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Originally Posted by PELICANSFAN

Article says Pels can offer significantly more than $10 million a year to Jackson. I hope not, at least not on a multi-year deal.

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I believe that was prior to the Graham trade. I don’t believe we could offer that anymore without getting off Sato

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Originally Posted by PELICANSFAN

Money will be a key factor for Jackson, especially given the #Clippers don?t have much left. But, it?s no secret he likes the organization and enjoyed his role. One sleeper team to consider is New Orleans. Trajan Langdon likes Jackson.

? Jordan Schultz (@Schultz_Report) August 4, 2021

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I would love this move. I think with what’s left in FA he is the best fit as our starting PG with Graham coming off the bench next to Kira. With Ingram and Zion we don’t need a 10 assists per game PG. We need one who is capable of creating for others while being very good at scoring and creating their own shot. On top of that his 3pt is above 40%. He’s just 30 years old and further removed from injuries. He also played with a lineup that is similar to ours in a way having 2 star wings and he thrived. A healthy Reggie Jackson makes us a dangerous team IMO.

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Originally Posted by Taker597

In 2015, the NBA and Delta Air Lines Inc struck a deal in which 27 of the 30 NBA teams would be carried by their chartered jets specifically fitted out to host NBA players.

We are those 27 teams. So, pump the brakes on team hospitality issues.

Would of been nice to get a private charter... Sure. But it's Summer League and maybe scheduling a plane wasn't working in their favor in NOLA. Again... It's a no issue.

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That's a really impressive and obscure knowledge nugget.

.@TheSteinLine on Lakers/Hield

“That deal was real and it was close. The Lakers don’t have a package to get him. The Kings are still trying to get rid of him.”

— John Ledesma (@JohnnyNBA) August 5, 2021

Deliver us Hield. We shall take him off your hands, all you have to add is one top 5 protected FRP. Doesn't have to be much. We're not going to rob you. Give us the all-time great shooter to pair with Zion and Devonte and Ingram and NAW and Jax and Kira.

I dont know how much you can blame Griffen by all accounts the Pelicans have made some huge offers to the top FA targets. What else do you want him to do, all he can do is offer to overpay he cant force an all star to come here.

I know it's popular to kind of pile on Buddy cause of his deficiencies, and he definitely has them, but he really is just flat out historically great as a shooter. There's really no argument otherwise. The combination of volume and accuracy is truly astounding.

Last season he shot 39.1% from 3 on 10.2 attempts per game.
The year before that, 39.4% on 9.6 per game.
The year before that, 43% on 8 per game.
The year before that 43% on 5.1 per game.

39.1% is his career low in 3pt%. On 10.2 a game.

He's made at least 270 threes in three consecutive seasons at this point. The number of seasons all time where someone has made at least 270 threes on 39% is 13.

Steph Curry has 6 of them. Buddy has 3. Lillard has 2. Klay and Duncan Robinson both have 1.

UFA Danny Green (@DGreen_14 ) has agreed to return to the Philadelphia 76ers on a 2-year/$20M deal.

Green shot 40% from 3 this season on 6.3 attempts. Green had 1.3 SPG (t-career best) and 0.8 BPG after playing in 69 of 72 regular season games.

— Harrison Sanford (@HarrisonSanford) August 5, 2021

If he can pull off Reggie Jackson and Ingles or Bodogavich I'll be a happy clam.

Ingles is the dream but I just have intense scepticism about it. Buddy on the other hand, at least feels achievable: we know his relationship with the Kings has been rocky, we have actual reports that they are trying to move him in particular, etc.

Bring him home, man.

Also to have people have to try and defend Zion by cheating off Ingram, Graham, and Buddy is just hilarious on a huge number of different levels. So many ways to die, choose one.

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Originally Posted by hornetsrebirth

I dont know how much you can blame Griffen by all accounts the Pelicans have made some huge offers to the top FA targets. What else do you want him to do, all he can do is offer to overpay he cant force an all star to come here.

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Just a thought, but knowing how much players communicate with each other, you wonder if JJ Redick poisoned the well? He's been in the league a long time, so a lot of players would take what he says into consideration.

This team should have never gotten rid of Buddy in the first place. Such a dumb nice especially for a team that needed is skill set at the SG position badly. Had we gotten something nice in return then ok maybe so but we did it for near nothing.


Adding Buddy to our team would be awesome! Watching these highlights shows he’s the exact skill set we need with Ingram and Zion. Having another scoring option like Buddy with our guys we like be great!

https://duckduckgo.com/?q=buddy%20hi...%3D-_Hr_AUmWP8
Buddy Highlights

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Originally Posted by Pelicanidae

Ingles is the dream but I just have intense scepticism about it. Buddy on the other hand, at least feels achievable: we know his relationship with the Kings has been rocky, we have actual reports that they are trying to move him in particular, etc.

Bring him home, man.

Also to have people have to try and defend Zion by cheating off Ingram, Graham, and Buddy is just hilarious on a huge number of different levels. So many ways to die, choose one.

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Do you think Buddy is enough or do you think we need him and another guard?

I think going from being able to match 4/85 for Lonzo to trading assets for Hield at 3/60 is kinda a lateral move in terms of overall production. Maybe slight dropoff in defense and slight bump in 3 point shooting.

If he's the only option, I'm on the fence, so long as the price is close to free, or better yet... Kings being willing to attach assets to get rid of him. I'm not quite sure where Hield is currently in his mindset. His production dropped off a fair amount after signing that contract. The last thing I'd want is to be stuck with a 3/60 deal with another Bledsoe type in terms of not caring.

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Originally Posted by bradael

I think going from being able to match 4/85 for Lonzo to trading assets for Hield at 3/60 is kinda a lateral move in terms of overall production. Maybe slight dropoff in defense and slight bump in 3 point shooting.

If he's the only option, I'm on the fence, so long as the price is close to free, or better yet... Kings being willing to attach assets to get rid of him. I'm not quite sure where Hield is currently in his mindset. His production dropped off a fair amount after signing that contract. The last thing I'd want is to be stuck with a 3/60 deal with another Bledsoe type in terms of not caring.

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I mean, it's no secret that Buddy hasn't been happy in Sacramento. He had to fight tooth and nail for the Kings to give him that contract in the first place, and despite turning in two consecutive all-time shooting seasons since then he's only found himself shoved more and more into a marginal role. I think it would do him good to get out of Sacramento.

I think comparing Hield's contract to Lonzo's is kinda besides the point since they play entirely different roles and, as you yourself pointed out, Buddy's deal is shorter. Buddy's deal is also declining in pay each year, which I think makes it slightly more attractive to those who are sceptical about his production. As for a slight bump in 3 point shooting, with all due respect, it's more than that. Lonzo, for all of his improvements - which were real! - as a shooter was still pretty much just a catch and shoot guy from a stationary catch. Buddy is all time as a shooter.

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Originally Posted by PELSGIRL

Do you think Buddy is enough or do you think we need him and another guard?

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Well I've said before that I'd be totally fine if we just went into the season with what we have. So adding Buddy is just a bonus, if we can do it. Otherwise just go forward as we are and see what happens - I think we're better off than we were this time last year.

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Originally Posted by bradael

I think going from being able to match 4/85 for Lonzo to trading assets for Hield at 3/60 is kinda a lateral move in terms of overall production. Maybe slight dropoff in defense and slight bump in 3 point shooting.

If he's the only option, I'm on the fence, so long as the price is close to free, or better yet... Kings being willing to attach assets to get rid of him. I'm not quite sure where Hield is currently in his mindset. His production dropped off a fair amount after signing that contract. The last thing I'd want is to be stuck with a 3/60 deal with another Bledsoe type in terms of not caring.

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They are completely different players. Buddy is a much better fit for what we need alongside Ingram and Zion. I’m a fan of Lonzo and would have liked to have him return. There is nothing similar between the two and with Buddy we know what he is while he also offers the closest skill set to what we are looking for. Lonzo is still a few years away from being his best self where he is worth the $ he is getting paid where I think Buddy is right in the heart of his prime with the next 3 years likely being his best getting maximum value out of him. Not to mention how much he should benefit with our lineup and new system. Buddy taking set up shots almost exclusively like Lonzo would have him shooting 45% from 3pt. His ability to not only spot up but be able to create for himself form deep at just about anytime is crucial when in the playoffs.

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Originally Posted by RobertM320

Just a thought, but knowing how much players communicate with each other, you wonder if JJ Redick poisoned the well? He's been in the league a long time, so a lot of players would take what he says into consideration.

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It definitely feels like that played some kind of a role into why FA deals were not finalized after they were offered. **** move by Reddick to criticize Griffin and the organization just before the offseason of clearing a ton of cap space and attempting to add pieces onto Zion and Ingram in FA. I feel like he made sure his words got in the way of the teams offseason plans of finally building a consistent winning team via FA help just because he didnt get his way to be traded to BKN and have a last chance at getting a championship ring giftwrapped to him from playing with KD, Harden, & Kyrie.

No one has been trying to seriously sign Reddick in FA. I think he knew he wasn’t going to get much of any interest in FA at his age so he tried his damnedest to make Griffin & FO look horrible in player relations for not catering to him.

If the Pels are looking at something like....

Josh Hart and Sato for Buddy and ? ,
maybe sign Reggie Jackson ?
resign Hernangomez

I could live with that, fun team to watch, should be competative.

Trade:

PELS receive Damien Lillard

Blazers receive: Ingram, NAW, Kira, Sato and 3 first round picks and 2 second round picks

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Then we sign Reggie Jackson, Oubre and Willy

Lillard
Graham
Oubre
Zion
Jonas

BACKUPS:
Jackson
Didi
Hayes
Naji
Temple
Willy
Gabriel
Herb Jones
Murphy




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Originally Posted by pelicanchamp

Trade:

PELS receive Damien Lillard

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Blazers aren't trading Lillard.

[QUOTE=pelicanchamp;1564883]Trade:

PELS receive Damien Lillard

Blazers receive: Ingram, NAW, Kira, Sato and 3 first round picks and 2 second round picks

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Then we sign Reggie Jackson, Oubre and Willy

Lillard
Graham
Oubre
Zion
Jonas

BACKUPS:
Jackson
Didi
Hayes
Naji
Temple
Willy
Gabriel
Herb Jones
Murphy


Looks Great Champ !

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Originally Posted by SonOfNOLA

It definitely feels like that played some kind of a role into why FA deals were not finalized after they were offered. **** move by Reddick to criticize Griffin and the organization just before the offseason of clearing a ton of cap space and attempting to add pieces onto Zion and Ingram in FA. I feel like he made sure his words got in the way of the teams offseason plans of finally building a consistent winning team via FA help just because he didnt get his way to be traded to BKN and have a last chance at getting a championship ring giftwrapped to him from playing with KD, Harden, & Kyrie.

No one has been trying to seriously sign Reddick in FA. I think he knew he wasn?t going to get much of any interest in FA at his age so he tried his damnedest to make Griffin & FO look horrible in player relations for not catering to him.

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I hope the other 29 GMs take note of what Reddick did to the rep of the team by criticizing Griff and not sign Reddick as punishment and karma. End his career while as a FA with the rep of team operations saboteur.

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Originally Posted by Pelicanidae

Blazers aren't trading Lillard.

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We can offer them a very good package. I think he?s unhappy.


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Originally Posted by RobertM320

Just a thought, but knowing how much players communicate with each other, you wonder if JJ Redick poisoned the well? He's been in the league a long time, so a lot of players would take what he says into consideration.

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I was wondering the same thing myself. Redick said that "it’s not something where I would expect certainly the agents who worked on this with me to ever trust that front office again.” His agency is CAA Sports. They represent some big names, but not anyone we've been connected to who chose less money to go elsewhere.

However, could be that his criticism landed in a lot of agents' and players' ears. Then again, could also be that Griff didn't show much in the way he constructed the team last year. I can understand there being concerns about going to a small market team on it's third coach in three years and unable, thus far, to build a playoff caliber team.

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Originally Posted by RobertM320

Just a thought, but knowing how much players communicate with each other, you wonder if JJ Redick poisoned the well? He's been in the league a long time, so a lot of players would take what he says into consideration.

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I think JJ factors in very little in all of this. You do sense the "Avoid at All Cost" of this FA offseason which honestly wasn't really there the last two off season.

I just it's a case of people paying attention how Griff has done business and scrutinizing it.

Would you want to go a place that'll trade you a year into when things go bad?
Would you want to go to a place where you'll get thrown under the bus?
Would you want to go to an organization that spends more time and assets cleaning up theiir own mistakes than building the team?
Do you see PBO being in press conference for no reason necessary or putting outlandish statements of competing?
A whole bunch of drama got dropped a month after the season with Zion, players being unhappy, Griff being a headcase, etc

And to be honest... It's only a few select players that didn't have a legitimate reason to turn us down.

But this is all temporary if the organization gets the drama under control, be competent, and just win games.

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Originally Posted by pelicanchamp

Trade:

PELS receive Damien Lillard

Blazers receive: Ingram, NAW, Kira, Sato and 3 first round picks and 2 second round picks

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Then we sign Reggie Jackson, Oubre and Willy

Lillard
Graham
Oubre
Zion
Jonas

BACKUPS:
Jackson
Didi
Hayes
Naji
Temple
Willy
Gabriel
Herb Jones
Murphy




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You do have an imagination.

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Originally Posted by Taker597

I think JJ factors in very little in all of this. You do sense the "Avoid at All Cost" of this FA offseason which honestly wasn't really there the last two off season.

I just it's a case of people paying attention how Griff has done business and scrutinizing it.

Would you want to go a place that'll trade you a year into when things go bad?
Would you want to go to a place where you'll get thrown under the bus?
Would you want to go to an organization that spends more time and assets cleaning up theiir own mistakes than building the team?
Do you see PBO being in press conference for no reason necessary or putting outlandish statements of competing?
A whole bunch of drama got dropped a month after the season with Zion, players being unhappy, Griff being a headcase, etc

And to be honest... It's only a few select players that didn't have a legitimate reason to turn us down.

But this is all temporary if the organization gets the drama under control, be competent, and just win games.

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Reddick was thirsty for a ring at age 37 and was upset Griffin prioritized team interests and didn’t send him where he wanted to go while his career was fading out. The things Reddick said about the FO cant be trusted was unwarranted and extreme, and took advantage of the vulnerability of a small market rebuilding team getting in position to acquire players. Reddick had a huge complex of who he was at this stage of his career more than what he actually is.

There’s hardly any other players, if at all, that the Pelicans traded away while they were actually good and an asset to the team, unless they made trade requests like AD and CP. Besides them, its usually declining players that were huge cap liabilities. I don’t see how the team trades players when it goes bad like there’s fire sales every year. If they’re not good and taking up cap, they should be gone.

Reddick was 37, his numbers declined from the previous season because of his age. It can be blamed on coaching change, but his Dallas #s still didn’t match the 19-20 season. Because a GM and FO didn’t cater to a 37 year old declining veteran’s trade destination means they can’t be trusted? That’s really ridiculous. Whether intentionally or not, Reddick sabotaged some the Pelicans FA negotiations because he couldn’t get his participation ring

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Originally Posted by SonOfNOLA

Reddick was thirsty for a ring at age 37 and was upset Griffin prioritized business and didn’t send him where he wanted to go while his career was fading out. The things Reddick said about the FO cant be trusted was unwarranted and extreme, and took advantage of the vulnerability of a small market rebuilding team getting in position to acquire players. Reddick had a huge complex of who he was at this stage of his career more than what he actually is.

There’s hardly any other players, if at all, that the Pelicans traded away while they were actually good and an asset to the team, unless they made trade requests like AD and CP. Besides them, its usually declining players that were huge cap liabilities. I don’t see how the team trades players when it goes bad like there’s fire sales every year. If they’re not good and taking up cap, they should be gone.

Reddick was 37, his numbers declined from the previous season because of his age. It can be blamed on coaching change, but his Dallas #s still didn’t match the 19-20 season. Because a GM and FO didn’t cater to a 37 year old declining veteran’s trade destination means they can’t be trusted? That’s really ridiculous. Whether intentionally or not, Reddick sabotaged some the Pelicans FA negotiations because he couldn’t get his participation ring

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Ehhhh... I really don't think JJ Reddick sabotaged anything that wasn't already sabotaged by poor mishandling of the franchise. Other franchises do the samething as we do, but Griff does have to get better at communicating with Vets that stuck their neck out to come here. Which has been a known issue here between FO vs. Players. Who cares about what a washed up shooter that can't shoot think.


You can talk dirt all you can, but to turn down $18 million Fully GTD extra dollars on a solid talented team that isn't a one man show... It's more than just one person's word. It's the complete picture as to why he turned us down... Location, management, and stability. We probably struck out in all three.

During GM in the past, did Griffin ever trade away a Good player right after joining the team? Was there any other players to ever criticize Griffin? Griffin’s business handling wasn’t questioned before then tmk. Reddick’s can’t be trusted comments was reckless and out of line. He deserves the same treatment from all GMs in FA negotiations that FA players gave us because of those comments, no signing. I think Lowry or Hardaway would’ve accepted our offers if those words were never said by Reddick

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Originally Posted by Pelicanidae

Also to have people have to try and defend Zion by cheating off Ingram, Graham, and Buddy is just hilarious on a huge number of different levels. So many ways to die, choose one.

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That would be hilarious. We'd be a second round team for sure with merely adequate defense.

As much as JJ wre(di)cked the team (fingerguns) Jrue repped us. How the Pels handled a tough situation with Lauren's tumor and then trading him to a contender....him winning the title and repping us seconds after winning. I would have thought those two would cancel out. But getting stiffed in FA says otherwise. I think it has more to do with how meh the players looked last season. Trade for one starting quality guard, go out and have a great/fun season with Willie, and our FA woes will be over. Winning cures all.

Why does Sacramento hate Buddy so? I love Buddy. Why they trying to trash my guy?

Get me Hield and Bogdanovic and I'm happy. I don't know if Bagley fits in there too, but why not try

Good little perspective on why we should all hate the idea of trading BI.

https://pelicandebrief.com/2021/08/0...ngram-granted/

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Originally Posted by msusousaphone

As much as JJ wre(di)cked the team (fingerguns) Jrue repped us. How the Pels handled a tough situation with Lauren's tumor and then trading him to a contender....him winning the title and repping us seconds after winning. I would have thought those two would cancel out. But getting stiffed in FA says otherwise. I think it has more to do with how meh the players looked last season. Trade for one starting quality guard, go out and have a great/fun season with Willie, and our FA woes will be over. Winning cures all.

Why does Sacramento hate Buddy so? I love Buddy. Why they trying to trash my guy?

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Yeah In all this mess it seems to be forgotten how we treated Jrue

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Originally Posted by Pelicanidae

Blazers aren't trading Lillard.

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And he wont want to come here either.

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Originally Posted by msusousaphone

Good little perspective on why we should all hate the idea of trading BI.

https://pelicandebrief.com/2021/08/0...ngram-granted/

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Agreed! So dumb! I would love to have Lillard but people need to remember just how you Ingram still is. Lillard was 22 y/o his rookie year and will be turning 31 while Ingram is just 23 y/o.. He still has room to grow and become a much better player. Not many players in the NBA right now as good as him outside of Doncic, Tatum, Booker, Young, Mitchell, and Zion.. Then you look at all the great wings in the NBA with Giannis, Durant, and Lebron as the only players to be as good as Ingram so early. You can?t give me 10 players that are a better fit with Zion and going into the future for this team. These 2 have potential to turn into one of the best duos ever under 25 years old and with 2 years left I?m betting on them having as strong a case as anyone. They are just learning how to play great themselves much less together. We should expect nothing but amazing results as they continue to develop and get more time playing together along with what should be a great coaching staff that has a good idea on how to get the best results. Don?t know how anyone can?t be excited right now going forward with these 2 along with the many other very promising players on this team.

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Originally Posted by PolishFan

Yeah In all this mess it seems to be forgotten how we treated Jrue

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Yea the organization.. all while most of the fan base and many here bashed him at every turn until the rest of the NBA that knows what they are talking about continually praised how good he was. Most of the time there was like a handful of guys here that didn’t think he was some average PG and some believing he was trash.

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Originally Posted by SonOfNOLA

Reddick was thirsty for a ring at age 37 and was upset Griffin prioritized team interests and didn’t send him where he wanted to go while his career was fading out. The things Reddick said about the FO cant be trusted was unwarranted and extreme, and took advantage of the vulnerability of a small market rebuilding team getting in position to acquire players. Reddick had a huge complex of who he was at this stage of his career more than what he actually is.

There’s hardly any other players, if at all, that the Pelicans traded away while they were actually good and an asset to the team, unless they made trade requests like AD and CP. Besides them, its usually declining players that were huge cap liabilities. I don’t see how the team trades players when it goes bad like there’s fire sales every year. If they’re not good and taking up cap, they should be gone.

Reddick was 37, his numbers declined from the previous season because of his age. It can be blamed on coaching change, but his Dallas #s still didn’t match the 19-20 season. Because a GM and FO didn’t cater to a 37 year old declining veteran’s trade destination means they can’t be trusted? That’s really ridiculous. Whether intentionally or not, Reddick sabotaged some the Pelicans FA negotiations because he couldn’t get his participation ring

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You can't say that Reddick was thirsty for a ring when he passed on re-signing a 1 year deal with Philly when they had become a contender for a 2 year deal in New Orleans who was rebuilding.

How did we have him for two years and people still not know how to spell Redick yet?!??!?!?!

One 'D'

R-E-D-I-C-K

For the love of all that is holy!!!

As a primer for today:

Pels can currently roll about 18 million into the Memphis trade. Send nothing out, take in a player making up to 18 mil.

Add Iwundu in there and its about 20.2 and add Gabriel its about 22.8. Add Hart (factoring in an 11 mil per year S&T), and it about 30 million.

So, that is to say that the Pelicans can take a lot of money back without giving up much/any - a very valuable tool in the trade market. Many teams are at the cap or close.

But once the Pelicans make the Memphis trade official (likely tomorrow), this ability disappears.

That makes the ability for the Pels to add a useful, competent, perhaps overpaid, player a metaphorical layup. One Griffin couldn't possibly miss...

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Originally Posted by MichaelMcNamara

How did we have him for two years and people still not know how to spell Redick yet?!??!?!?!

One 'D'

R-E-D-I-C-K

For the love of all that is holy!!!

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That was spelled with an extra d on purpose for what he said about Griff and the org

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Originally Posted by MichaelMcNamara

As a primer for today:

Pels can currently roll about 18 million into the Memphis trade. Send nothing out, take in a player making up to 18 mil.

Add Iwundu in there and its about 20.2 and its about 22.8. Add Hart (factoring in an 11 mil per year S&T), and it about 30 million.

So, that is to say that the Pelicans can take a lot of money back without giving up much/any - a very valuable tool in the trade market. Many teams are at the cap or close.

But once the Pelicans make the Memphis trade official (likely tomorrow), this ability disappears.

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If it's rolled into the Memphis trade and doesn't involve Charlotte at all. Then what does that make of the reports that the original S&T of Lonzo somehow involved us getting Graham and instead something came up made us pivot and throw in the protected first to Charlotte?

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Originally Posted by Conroy

If it's rolled into the Memphis trade and doesn't involve Charlotte at all. Then what does that make of the reports that the original S&T of Lonzo somehow involved us getting Graham and instead something came up made us pivot and throw in the protected first to Charlotte?

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It will involve Charlotte. Graham and Jonas are 26 mil incoming as of right now