Took the words right out my mouth. But everyone in the media keeps clamoring about us needing a shooter to space the floor. "Not enough balls to go around" lmao it works in GS worked in Boston, Miami, Cleveland. Would work in Houston but not Nola? It's nothing more than typical media pushing for the big market teams.Quote:
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08-09-2017, 01:26 PM23speedkillz
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08-09-2017, 01:28 PMbahmamambaExactly, I'm not even saying Melo would be a good fit but using his logic that would mean he wouldn't be a good fit in Houston or cleavland especially if kyrie stays.Quote:
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08-09-2017, 01:32 PMImnos 2
I didn't have hear his take and I already know why he wouldn't like it. He is a Knicks fan and wouldn't like what he would get back in return. This idea of a "not enough balls to go around is a flawed notion". A team of subpar talent can have this same problem if the players don't play together just the same as a team of 5 all star level talents.
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08-09-2017, 02:01 PMmsw2024
Yes, Stephen A always has his own opinion that usually sucks honestly. He is not a biased reporter. He wants Melo to go to Houston. Honestly, I do not want Melo on the team. I think he is a ball Hog and that contract especially with the trade kicker...let Houston have him. I agree that if he thinks it will work in Houston then it can work in Nola, but I would hate if he came here.
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08-09-2017, 02:10 PMPolishFanfinally there is someone else who doesnt want him hereQuote:
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08-09-2017, 02:28 PMhornetsrebirth
Cousins is an extremely good facilitator. So much so that before we got Rondo I wanted to see him as a point forward for the offense. That comment from Stephen A sounded really ignorant. It's like he hasn't watched Cousins play.
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08-09-2017, 02:50 PMMistaWhoDatI agree I don't think that it will happen unless we include multiple 1st round picks and that wouldn't be smart .Quote:
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08-09-2017, 02:58 PMHoustonPelicans
The Melo idea sounded interesting at first but I agree with Stephen A and mostly Max, adding a high usage player like Melo when we haven't built real chemistry among the 2 high usage guys we already have could be a disaster. Especially a guy who's been a ball hog for 14 years. I don't think it would work in Houston either fwiw.
Furthermore, we finally have a great group of guys that can grow together and are focused on winning. I don't want the social media circus and drama that comes with Melo around this team at this point. He just cheated on his wife again, this time getting another woman pregnant. His wife doing nude scenes on TV. Their situation is just so much drama and social media keeping the fire alive, I'm not sure if he's even all the way focused on basketball. We don't need his problems messing up what we got going. -
08-09-2017, 05:16 PMml wave#TeamNoMeloQuote:
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08-09-2017, 05:34 PMP_B_&_G
I seriously doubt we get Melo here but talent wins in this league. If Dell gets him here without completely mortgaging the future he would be the third best player on the team.
Think about that, Jrue would be the fourth option.
Is Melo perfect? Not even close.
Is Melo more talented than anyone else we have at the position? Not even close.
Its doubtful that he lands in NOLA but at least it gives us something to talk about right now. -
08-09-2017, 05:46 PMrezburnaI agree. Too much talent to miss out on.Quote:
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08-09-2017, 06:38 PMSilverfoxx
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08-09-2017, 06:48 PMHoustonPelicansCunningham gotta show Diallo how to make them cuts, so he can play the 3Quote:
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08-09-2017, 06:49 PMP_B_&_GHow about thisQuote:
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Dante Cunningham + pick < Melo - pick - Asik - Hill - filler
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08-09-2017, 08:48 PMSilverfoxxMy post was based on what MM was sayingQuote:
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08-10-2017, 01:31 AMmsusousaphone
If we ignore him he.....well....it seems he won't die but he may go away.
So. Melo. I have pretty much ignored the East. I would love to have vintage Melo but I have no clue how far he has declined. I really only watch the Pels. The rest of the NBA disgusts me.
However, I will say that all of this "not enough balls" nonsense is exactly what was said when these super teams started forming and it was the exact logic I clung to when I was telling everyone Durant couldn't fit in GS....so...well.....at least I've learned and am adapting. -
08-10-2017, 01:46 AMEngland_Hornet
Even if he has declined... he'd still easily be good enough for 18/8 and is a good 3 shooter....and is clutch
He would just have to accept being 3rd option... but may accept that in order to win.
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08-10-2017, 01:52 AMredrum
Is Melo the perfect fit, maybe not. Is a Melo trade likely, NO. BUT, no one can argue that a team with a starting 5 of Rondo, Jrue, Boogie, Melo, and AD would be tough to beat if they found a way to coexist. This would without question be the most talented team in New Orleans professional basketball history. It is worth discussing!
and no...Cunningham and next years 1 are not worth more than Melo if your goal is competing for a title This is a rare opportunity for a small market team to have a legit shot! -
08-10-2017, 02:02 AMpawel
I have two problems with Melo signings.
1. total amount of salary commited to Jrue, AD, Melo and re-signed DMC is more than salary cap. To fill the roster you will need to go deep into the tax. Probably for multiple years. Jrue, AD and DMC should have contracts for the multiple years. so it will be hard to add a new blood into it...
2. NYK still are looking for king ransom for Melo. Hill and More and pick (not to mention Asik) is not a king ransom. Also he prefers to play with his friends and does not see Pels as a contender.
I dont have a problem with speculations. Speculate if you wish
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08-10-2017, 08:52 AMmsw2024This! I don't think Benson will pay the tax unless we are for sure Finals candidate.Quote:
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08-13-2017, 01:59 PMImnos 2
Yay! NBA news
@ShamsCharania: Sources: Charlotte plans to sign guard Julyan Stone to a two-year minimum deal, with second year trigger date, pending FIBA clearance.
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08-13-2017, 02:09 PMRheem654Interesting back story to this, he was freed from his current contract with a team in Italy on his request, so he can continue his career closer to his father who has been hospitalized here in the states. I'm sure having the chance to play in the NBA factored into the decision some, too.Quote:
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08-18-2017, 08:59 AMPaul Overt
Dwyane Wade and the Chicago Bulls are expected to agree upon a buyout at some point in the coming months.
https://basketball.realgm.com/wireta...ee-Upon-Buyout
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08-18-2017, 09:13 AMCaffeinedisastrNo. Keep him away.Quote:
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08-18-2017, 02:07 PMJabberwalker
How do we all feel about Nerlens being a free agent? I always really liked his game. The fact that no one has offered him anything is crazy to me. In the last two Mosgov, Mahinmi, Asik, Leornard, Biyombo, Noah, Miles Plumlee, and Tyson Chandler all averaged 14 Million a year last year after signing contracts since the cap's gone up. That is a third of the league carrying dead weight contracts in centers that are legitimately hampering their team's success yet Nerlens isn't getting his qualifying offer of 4.5? The guy is a genuinely good pick and roll defender. He just can't shoot. As much as shooting has become important for big men, I'd gladly take that deficiency for his defense. I know we don't really need another big but it is so perplexing to me.
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08-18-2017, 03:07 PMCaffeinedisastrHe's restricted.Quote:
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08-18-2017, 04:01 PMPELICANSFANThey made him an offer, but he reportedly is looking for a near-max deal.Quote:
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08-18-2017, 08:14 PMRheem654
Withey to the Mavs!
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08-18-2017, 09:55 PMBricklayer
I think Morrow is still out there saying "sign me! sign me!"
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08-19-2017, 07:18 AMButtersQuote:
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08-19-2017, 10:44 AMbahmamambaI can't see how he expects to get near max when yes he's shown a little but not much. It's crazy.Quote:
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08-20-2017, 04:13 PMAUSSIE_PELICAN
Quin Cook has signed with the Hawks on a 2 year partially guaranteed deal.
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08-20-2017, 08:50 PMAusPelGood for Quinn. Hope he kills itQuote:
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08-21-2017, 07:58 AMMr. West:/Quote:
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08-21-2017, 08:23 AMEman5805
Oh goody. Now if he has an above average game, we'll get threads like "Oh, look how bad we are for not taking him!"
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08-21-2017, 11:49 AMMr. WestWell, if he is good, we can actually look bad for letting him go.Quote:
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08-22-2017, 01:28 AMpawel
Letting go Cook and Toupane allowed us to sign Clark. Clark is a player with championship experience.
At that time it was the easiest way to clear some space. And upgrade.
August 31st is approaching. Before then (stretching deadline) you will hear one or two Pelicans moves.
Maybe some camp invites.
I agree with MM that Ajinca may be bought out.
Ajinca can get minimum somewhere. or around 1 million in Europe.
he is owed 10.2 million $
He may agree for 7-8 millions to free himself.
Pels will stretch him for 1,5-1,7 millions.
and will clear room for two minimum guys. or Dante for little more than minimum.
problem with this thinking is that Pels won't leave themselves almost any flexibility for the season.
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08-22-2017, 02:13 AMAusPelEvery next day that Asik is still on the books it is a better situation for us to do something with him (once the season has started anyway). That's why AA goes before himQuote:
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08-22-2017, 06:24 AMpawel
Problem with Asik is that it looks that
1. dumping him costs a ton (picks, other bad long-term contracts)
2. he probably don't want to agree for a discount buyout
IMO there is not a big difference between not stretching him now and having him with two years left and 15 millions dollars (stretching for 5 years costs us 3 millions per year, stretching him now is 3,5 millions per 7 years). I mean waiting a year won't give us a better chance to dump him cheaper...
Also Dell is fighting for his present.
there is financial difference, I agree
but assuming Asik will remain a Pelican - he won't play single minute this year. and to dump even his 15 millions you will have to use first round pick...
personally I would stretch Asik, remain with Ajinca for a year. remain flexible with our pick
sign Dante and a wing (type Dunleavy) for one season
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08-22-2017, 09:04 AMPELICANSFANI agree. Bite the bullet with Asik and move on. I cannot imagine we intend on playing him, so pay the money for Dell's mistake and stretch him.Quote:
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08-22-2017, 09:07 AMMythrol
Who is our backup center if we move Ajinca? Asik? Ahhahahahahahahahhahaha hahahahahahahahahhahaahahah. Ahahahahahahah
Trading Ajinca just creates another hole we have to fill.
Our best hope is Asik stays "sick" and doesn't play this year so we can file for medical retirement and he can be removed from our books just like Bosh. -
08-22-2017, 09:32 AMDroopyDawg
^ Man that's just wrong.
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08-22-2017, 12:32 PMpawelOur best backup center is Davis... Davis and Boogie will eat around 70 big's minutes...Quote:
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08-22-2017, 12:45 PMMythrolFree Agency ThreadAssuming they eat 70 minutes that still leaves 26 minutes for other bigs. That's a lot of minutes for just some guy off the street.Quote:
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Assuming Diallo gets the PF minutes, that's still 12-14ish for a center and that's BEFORE any injury. If AD or Cousins misses even a small amount of time I wouldn't want to rely on just a random minimum guy we just picked up. -
08-22-2017, 12:52 PMImnos 2
I want Jahlil Okafor as our backup. He's cheap and an upgrade over Ajinca. Ajinca, Q and a 2nd gets it done.
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08-22-2017, 01:15 PMpawel
Ajinca.Q.and first maybe. So thank you...
As to center.
We are assuming that AD/DMC will play all center minutes. When healthy.
The rest PF minutes will go to Diallo. Hill and Dante (hopefully). Enough bodies for 28 minutes. Also Miller was supposed to play a little there.
If any of AD-DMC combo will be injured we can play small ball with more minutes for Diallo, Hill and Dante.
If AD and DMC wont play - you may target ICE Diaw, Lee or Zeller for minimum -
08-22-2017, 01:19 PMpawel
Also MM mentioned fair trade proposal.
One year of Trevor Booker for Asik and first.
In that case we wont need Dante.
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08-22-2017, 02:16 PMPELICANSFANDon't like giving up our 1st yet just to dump Asik.Quote:
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08-22-2017, 03:35 PMpawel
And at what point You will agree to give up first?
Booker is a vet. Also expiring vet.
I like it better than 7 years of 3.5 millions of dead salary.
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08-22-2017, 03:58 PMAUSSIE_PELICAN
Cole Aldrich and a 2nd for Asik and top 5 protected 1st.
Dell pretty much prefers to pay early 2nd rounders. We wont have the money for another 1st next season with the signing of Cousins.
Thibs is familiar with Asik.
Who says no?