Why? Bledsoe is better than all those trades. I can understand using him and the 24 pick to move into the top 10, but I think Bledsoe by himself should be worth a pick in the mid to late teens.
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According to the general Talking Head-o-Sphere, Bledsoe's value around the league is a rough neutral, largely driven from the (Arguably correct) take that he doesn't actually improve a team's ceiling very much. Now of course, teams that are picking in the top 10 shouldn't care about ceilings yet because they don't even have a floor, but they're also not trading for Bledsoe because they're rebuilding and he's not as useful for them. And teams in the mid-to-late teams do care about ceilings because they're trying to start/continue competing and therefore don't value him highly.
Bledsoe probably has the most value for teams trying to be relevant and steady. He won't raise your ceiling but he will raise your floor. Why I would target teams like Knicks, Pistons, and Magic
https://hoopshype.com/rumor/1410898/
Hill is getting some interest
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I think if I had to trade one of the two, it would be Bledsoe. I know that he is the better 2 way player at this point, but he's also the guy who openly tweets about wanting out of teams and such, and if he's that discontent with being on a non-playoff team (which we may well be this year) then he can go elsewhere. We don't need that in the locker room.
I think after Eric Gordon and AD and so on, I'm quite done with hosting players who literally want nothing more than to be anywhere else.
That's a pretty unexciting trade imo. Elfrid isn't a better guard option than we already have to be honest, and we have a lot of guards: plus if we got #8 and he slid, there's a decent chance we'd be walking out of the draft with at least one more guard who would be a better option than Elfrid; he's basically a nothing in this deal. So we'd be dealing Bledsoe and 24 for 8, basically, and that's far too much value for a not-even-top-5 pick in a bad draft.
I don’t care so much what the deal is, I just want the Pels to move Bledsoe. I trust that they will get all they can for him, but I want them to get rid of the contract. I can live with Hill and the one year he has left.
Breaking, per an NBA source: The Magic have agreed to trade their second-round pick (45th overall) in tonight’s draft to the Milwaukee Bucks for two future second-round picks.
— Josh Robbins (@JoshuaBRobbins) November 18, 2020
This is a decent move for the Bucks. Future 2nds are cheap for them anyway (they usually are, of course, for every team) so getting a decent one in the middle of the second this year is good. There's probably going to be someone there they can pick up, maybe a Skylar Mays or something, that they can throw a few regular season minutes at just to reduce load on their 4.5 good players. Obviously wouldn't be likely to get run in the playoffs but who cares?
Again, this is all assuming they even use it.
I'd rather deal Bledsoe and keep Hill. We need his shooting and locker room presence.
I’m fine with moving both. Hell, I’m fine with moving JJ if we really wanted to blow it up and the right deal presented itself. I’m just happy to see us attempting a steady rebuild for once.
I agree. Although it has been said there isn't room for Hill and Redick I disagree. In particular, situations where you need a 3 or want to spread the floor we would have the top 2 3 point % shooters in the game literally spreading the floor.....would be a tough assignment for any team.
All in on moving Bled and keeping Hill
Gallinari signing with Hawks apparently
They've done their rebuild so well
George Hill reportedly has trade interest from the Lakers, Clippers, Warriors, Celtics, and Heat, via @GeryWoelfel. pic.twitter.com/gzq6IxK0P5
— Hoop Central (@TheHoopCentral) November 18, 2020
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The Milwaukee Bucks' agreement with the Sacramento Kings to acquire Bogdan Bogdanovic in a sign-and-trade is now in peril, source tell Sam Amick of The Athletic.
The deal was reported on Monday, several days before the opening of free agency in which teams could technically begin negotiating sign-and-trade deals.
The Sixers are trading Al Horford and a first-round and second-round pick to the Thunder for Danny Green, sources tell ESPN.
— Adrian Wojnarowski (@wojespn) November 18, 2020
This is a good move for Philly.
Really cheap to dump Horford. OKC needs more picks...
OKC ain't letting anyone have more picks than them.
The Sixers are sending a lightly-protected 2025 first-round pick and the 34th overall pick in tonight's draft, sources tell ESPN. The Thunder are also sending Terrance Ferguson to the Sixers with Green. https://t.co/sDCfPo4T4L
— Adrian Wojnarowski (@wojespn) November 18, 2020
Morey doing expert work to get out of that hideous contract
First lost trade for OKC in quite a while
I don't understand why Presti would take on such a bad contract for pure junk
Thunder probably aren't making the playoffs this year, and they're in a rebuild for a while, so why would they care? Besides, Horford can probably still go a little, Philly was just the worst possible fit for him, so he'll probably look a little better in OKC. They just got off CP3s contract so it's not like they're really getting worse in the contract department, and picks are picks, which Presti appears to love.
I do think it's better for the Sixers: they lose Horford who was very expensive and didn't work out there, and gain a shooter and off-ball guy in Green that they desperately need.
The Mavs and the Thunder are discussing a trade that would send Danilo Gallinari to Dallas in a sign-and-trade and the 18th pick to OKC, per sources.
— Matt Babcock (@MattBabcock11) November 18, 2020
Not sure what I think about this. On one hand, it does give them more offensive options and opens things up even wider for Luka, but on the other hand they already had a historically great offense: it's their defense that was sub-par, and Gallinari does not help there whatsoever.
Dallas is going for an All Euro team.
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[Windhorst] Jrue Holiday had the freedom to talk to teams about whether he was willing to extend and there were certain teams he wasn’t willing to extend with. Bogdan Bogdanovic really wanted to play with Giannis and it’s expected he was willing take less money to make it happen
hmm I see a George Hill sized TPE for Philly.
maybe we could extract a little value
I'd be interested in Steven Adams btw, maybe, depending on the price.
NOTE: I do not remember what his contract is. I am not going to look it up. If it's huge, ignore this.
The point of it all is to find your franchise cornerstones. Fortunately for the Pelicans they have theirs. Very possibly 2 of them already.
OKC still has none. SGA is a nice player but still very much a complimentary player imo. So they'll be churning picks until then.
I agree to a large extent.
People also have to remember that multiple picks can become one higher pick. Not always, but we've seen it happen: for example, the Hawks giving us 8, 17, and 35 for #4 last year. If Presti is in a position where he's locked in on a guy he sees as being a future franchise cornerstone, he can shift 3, 4, even 5 picks to get them without hurting his future drafting stock. There's value in that.
Warriors star Klay Thompson suffered an apparent lower leg injury today and is undergoing tests to determine severity, sources tell @TheAthleticNBA @Stadium.
— Shams Charania (@ShamsCharania) November 18, 2020
Interesting...saw this on hoopshype.com
The Kings have hit a snag in the sign-and-trade deal that was supposed to send Bogdan Bogdanovic and Justin James to the Milwaukee in exchange for Donte DiVincenzo, Ersan Ilyasova and D.J. Wilson
league source told The Sacramento Bee “there is no deal” when the trade was first reported Monday night and reiterated “there was never a deal” on Wednesday when news broke that the trade might be falling apart
Yeah I saw that, however consensus is that they're just covering for tampering accusation purposes. Seems plausible to me: it does seem somewhat coincidental that everyone realised how dodgy it was that the trade was announced before they were technically allowed to announce it and then suddenly news comes out that there was a miscommunication and it needs to be re-discussed.
Klay Thompson was unable to place weight on his lower leg injury leaving the gym today, sources said. Everyone is hoping for the best. https://t.co/kcxYJczNmX
— Shams Charania (@ShamsCharania) November 18, 2020