We haven't been 17-11 home over 12 years if I'm correct and people where showing up
Honest Question:
What position does Lonzo Ball play?
I really hate this damn team sometimes.
I have jerseys for the two idiots responsible for this loss. Considering burning them... but I won't.
Only two players in the 3-point era have scored 200+ PTS with a 55+ FG% in the first 10 games of their career.
— StatMuse (@statmuse) February 14, 2020
One is Shaquille O'Neal (238 PTS, 55.7 FG%).
The other is Zion Williamson (221 PTS, 57.6 FG%). pic.twitter.com/l1mwujEnSX
New Pels fan, new NBA fan really. Just wanted to say hey :itch:
Pelicanidae,
I know much of our philosophies differ, but I really would like to know what the team gives up per 36 and the what the +/- is with Reddick on the court versus when he isn't. If anybody knows how to get this info, it's probably you as you are the keeper of all things numerical (meant as compliment).
Watch Live: Zion's postgame interview https://t.co/JvtNoI8DQL
— New Orleans Pelicans (@PelicansNBA) February 14, 2020
Zion's postgame interview.
''You said it yourself; self inflicted turnovers. They were hitting shots. A leader like Chris Paul, he was facilitating their offense and they were hitting shots. Self inflicted turnovers. Not much to it.''
2 Straight 30 point games, what changed?
''My ability to get to the free throw line. Trying to keep going in there and draw as much attention as I can and when I do, I have open kick outs. It's trying to make the right kick outs.''
Is it satisfying watching your percentage go up after the first 3 rough games from the line?
''At the moment, not very satisfying. If I had made every free throw, the game would have had a different feel to it towards the end. But there has been improvement.''
On defense:
''I need to learn when to get back to my man and when to stay trying to corral the ball handler. I think we gotta have more trust in each other. We do have trust but we don't wanna make mistakes. So we make mistakes.''
On dominating and taking over:
''Yes and no, I do get those feelings where I know I just gotta take over and do what I can to help the team win, but then I start getting in my own head, I don't wanna hurt my team, make the mistake, or cost the team. So I start second guessing myself.''
At least Lonzo was hitting his shots and he isn’t getting paid as a team leader. What do you not understand the difference between player A at 22 yrs old vs almost 30 team leader who fumbles the ball in clutch moments? I mean Jrue turned the ball over off his foot one second after AD mentioned that each possession is important from here on out.
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Redick's on off is +1.9. Our offense is +4.4 when he's on the court, but he is a slight negative defensively, as the opposing offense is also +2.5 when he's on the court. As it currently stands, he's a positive overall because his offensive contribution is bigger than his defensive liabilities, but he is clearly a defensive weakness. On/Off is a per 100 measure rather than a per 36, but you still get the idea.
That also shows up in stats like PIPM, where he's +1.99 offensively, but -2.04 defensively, resulting in him being a slight negative overall by that metric.
Of course I do.
No individual lost us this game by themselves. Multiple people played badly in various ways. I'm not necessarily making the comparison to try and shift blame onto Lonzo; I'm only making it to point out that other players also contributed towards the loss, and the fact that people zero in on Jrue without even taking 10 seconds to mention the other players on the team who also hold responsibility is a sign of confirmation bias.
I have confirmation bias.I agree.
I do watch almost every game and keep seeing the same mistakes... every game almost... with my two eyes.
Momentum is huge in any sport. If Mark Ingram ran the ball for 100+ yards and then fumbled on the goal line ... he would be in Payton’s doghouse. Same concept here. He is a vet and leader and should be held to higher standards in the clutch.
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I don't watch American football, so I have no idea what that means.
But sure, I watch every single game myself and I also see many of the same mistakes popping up again and again. But it's not only Jrue that's making them. The point isn't that Jrue is beyond criticism; of course he's not. The point is that he's not the only player who's subject to it. Everyone should get it.
How about Zion against Adams? Adams is a big physical dude and Zion held his own. I’m more impressed about that then his stat line.
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It was good. He got held off a little on the boards (only 6, which is okay but not up to his average) but he was going right at him. Moved him considerably a few times, and Adams is one of the strongest guys in the NBA. Clear advantage in terms of burst too, both vertically and in terms of acceleration.
Advanced Stats for Tonight
Minimum 15 minutes
Best TS%: Lonzo Ball, 84.7%
Worst TS%: Nicolo Melli, 42.9%
Highest REB%: Derrick Favors, 22%
Highest AST%: Jrue Holiday, 37.9%
Highest Net Rating: E'twaun Moore, +14.2
Lowest Net Rating: JJ Redick, -21.5
Most Deflections: Lonzo with 4
Most Screen Assists: Kind of cheating because he only played 8 minutes, but it was Hayes; he had 6. Favors qualified in terms of minutes, but only had 3.
Most 2pt Contests: Favors with 7
Most 3pt Contests: Zion, Lonzo, and Hart all tied with 4
Most Boxouts: Favors with 3
THERE ARE NO PELICANS GAMES NOW UNTIL THE 21ST
WHICH IS ALSO MY BIRTHDAY
NICE
The thing about this long break is it resets everyone. Before and after the break is a common stat dividing point. Hopefully for Memphis is cools them off and they have a real coming back to earth moment as everyone gets to catch their breath.
Of course...the same could happen to us. They start to struggle...and we take a step back. It could happen. Just hope not.
The BEST OF Zion's 20-PT streak! ��@Zionwilliamson becomes the youngest player in @NBAHistory to score 20+ PTS in 6 consecutive games. pic.twitter.com/A4ZHr9AQsM
— NBA (@NBA) February 14, 2020
ZION HIGHLIGHTS
Zion is currently 19 years and 223 days old.
There are plenty of other rookies who have had 20+ scoring streaks way longer than 6 games, but none of them where this young. Let's look at some of the other long 20pt streaks in rookie history.
The longest streak of 20pt games in rookie history belongs to Wilt; he had 56 consecutive 20pt games his rookie year. He was 23 years old and 172 days when that streak ended.
Since the start of the 3pt era (1979-80), the longest rookie streak of 20pt games belongs to Michael Jordan, who had 23 straight in his rookie year. He was 21 years and 364 days old when that streak ended.
Since 2000, the longest rookie streak belongs to Blake Griffin. He had 14 consecutive 20pt games his rookie year, a streak that ended when he was 21 and 304 days.
Zion can't break Wilt's record; he just can't play enough games, even if he scored over 20 in every single game left. He could break Jordan's streak, but it would require him to pretty much go 20+ for nearly every game of the year. Surprisingly, this is not impossible in my mind, given how soft our schedule becomes towards the end.
Blake's streak though? That's really achievable, I think.
CP3 (cont.): “... it’s crazy because I always say the people of the city make the city. They’re always going to respect you and cheer for you as long as you compete and go hard. That’s what Zion is doing.” (2/2)
— Trevor Ritchie (@ritchietmr) February 14, 2020
"Sure Zion can dominate college guys, but he has no chance when a dude like Steven Adams is in the paint" pic.twitter.com/1lgt1p53qz
— Kalib Tilley (@KalibTilley) February 14, 2020
Art
This is what concerns me about the teams future under Gentry. His teams are not good defensively.And his adjustments are to slow Why is Ball still guarding Gallinari after being burned repeatedly in the first half? The Thunder players were just getting to the basket at will. Gentry at best is a decent assistant coach on the offense.Hate to be so negative,the Pels have a good future I'm just not sure they can reach their full potential under Gentry.
I understand that BI didn’t play because he was hurt, but why have him play in the meaningless AS game when he can aggravate his injury by playing? I understand him playing injured for us in a meaningful game, but not him playing in an exhibition game.
(Curmudgeon off)
Honestly I don’t even know why we got scheduled to play last night. The Arena’s tickenscan company even closed shop for the break. We eventually got in in beginning of 1st qtr.
I was all for bringing back CP3 here before deadline.
I share in the frustration, because at this point in his career, Jrue should be more consistent then he’s been. It’s maddening to see what he’s capable of in some games, where he’s almost sublime in crunch time, only to follow it up with games like last night where he misses huge free throws and makes unforced turnovers. I’m not saying he always needs to have the superhero games, but he shouldn’t have as many dud fourth quarter performances like last night. And if we’re being honest, the main reason that we’re on the outside of the playoff race is the high number of bad games that he had in the beginning of the year.
This is what I mean. It's perfectly fine to say that Jrue has dud fourth quarters way too often this year. No doubt, it's true. But is his poor play THE single main reason we're outside the playoffs?
Not Gentry taking 2 months to sort the rotation?
Not Favors missing half the season?
Not Lonzo playing like garbage on both ends until mid December?
I'd argue that any of those things easily have just as much influence on our current position as Jrues play, and in some cases like the Favors issue, possibly more.
It's weird to single Jrue out and sideline all of these issues.
Our season has been suboptimal for a ton of reasons. It's weird to pick one single reason and laser focus on it to the exception of all else.
Yoooooo what do you guys think about this
I've been harping on that the guards/wings need to eventually get perfect timing on those Zion roll-off alley oops. He's caught a bunch that were a beat late.
But listen to 1:30. Is that someone on the bench making a noise to alert the guard to throw the oop?
https://youtu.be/PjEMxXESekA?t=91
Even if not, then it would be a good idea to implement if someone can get ahold of the coaching staff lol
At 221 career points, Zion has reached 0.082 Baynes
Frustrating how the refs let Adams camp out in the lane the ENTIRE night.