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07-07-2016, 04:50 PM
frankatank109

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Originally Posted by Mythrol

Tyreke is not Rose.

Yeah, from the limited body of work we've had available the past couple seasons for both of them, when he's on the court, he's better.
07-07-2016, 04:56 PM
504ByrdGang

First thing to think about when moving Tyreke.

When has Dell ever dumped talent for nothing when he's trying to win..

Dell won't move Tyreke unless its for a significant player he can get not for a Tim Fraizer

Dell will not take on a contract with multiple season he wants that cap space.

Dell will not give a asset to move him.

Look how hesitant Dell was to move Ryan a player he knew he wouldn't keep and was in high demand. Keep listening to rumors as facts that we are trying to move him at all cost. Respect to the writer but the are bloggers who are hearing 3rd and 4th hand info. The only person who knows what they want to do is Dell and Ferry.
07-07-2016, 05:16 PM
Mythrol

Tyreke Evans

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Originally Posted by frankatank109

Yeah, from the limited body of work we've had available the past couple seasons for both of them, when he's on the court, he's better.

Rose is a 2x MVP that still sells tickets based off his name. He also is coming off a season where he played 66 games and Tyreke is coming off a season where he played 25, had yet another knee surgery, and is projected to only "possibly" be ready for training camp. We don't even know if he could pass a physical right now to even be traded.

If you want to sit here and believe at this moment that Tyreke and Rose have the same value then good luck with that. They aren't nearly the same situation.

And even if for some asinine reason we were to believe that they had the same value around the league, what exactly did Chicago get for Rose? Not an asset worth as much as WCS.
07-07-2016, 11:30 PM
NMThreeMVP

Seriously… how much do you think WCS is worth?!

Are you confusing Willie Cauley Stein with Karl Anthony Towns?
07-07-2016, 11:38 PM
frankatank109

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Originally Posted by Mythrol

Rose is a 2x MVP that still sells tickets based off his name. He also is coming off a season where he played 66 games and Tyreke is coming off a season where he played 25, had yet another knee surgery, and is projected to only "possibly" be ready for training camp. We don't even know if he could pass a physical right now to even be traded.

If you want to sit here and believe at this moment that Tyreke and Rose have the same value then good luck with that. They aren't nearly the same situation.

And even if for some asinine reason we were to believe that they had the same value around the league, what exactly did Chicago get for Rose? Not an asset worth as much as WCS.

This is also Tyreke's only major injury in his career, while Rose has had several. I would hardly call Tyreke an injury prone player, while Rose very much is. And again I would think that Tyreke's production, which is much greater and more impactful than Rose's, in combination with the fact that his salary is about half Rose's and that he doesn't come with nearly as much baggage as Rose does. So yes not only would I say that Reke has the same value around the league, names aside, he probably has greater. Chicago didn't get much for him, but this is the Kings we're talking about. They're not exactly great negotiators.
07-07-2016, 11:51 PM
Mythrol

Only major injury? Lol. Now I know you're just trolling.

Have a good night.
07-07-2016, 11:54 PM
pawel

Reke for Koufos. It will create us around two-three millions.
Send Ajinca somewhere for a 2nd rounder.
Use space to sign Frazier and TRob. For around 7 combined.

Dump Douglas and Luke.
07-08-2016, 12:01 AM
frankatank109

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Originally Posted by Mythrol

Only major injury? Lol. Now I know you're just trolling.

Have a good night.

That's not to say he has never been injured, but this is the first time he has ever missed more than half the games in a season, which is what I call a major injury. Call it trolling sure, means you don't have to respond to any of the other points.
07-08-2016, 12:04 AM
Mythrol

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Originally Posted by frankatank109

That's not to say he has never been injured, but this is the first time he has ever missed more than half the games in a season, which is what I call a major injury. Call it trolling sure, means you don't have to respond to any of the other points.

Let's put it this way. How much are you willing to bet Tyreke alone cannot pull WCS? I'll match the amount and take your money when it doesn't happen. Because it won't.
07-08-2016, 12:04 AM
HornetGuru

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Originally Posted by pawel

Reke for Koufos. It will create us around two-three millions.
Send Ajinca somewhere for a 2nd rounder.
Use space to sign Frazier and TRob. For around 7 combined.

Dump Douglas and Luke.

I'm a very big Koufos fan so I would love this.

I mean, I like Tyreke a lot more, but if we just plan on letting him walk, or we feel we have to move him to make space, I'd love to get koufos.
07-08-2016, 12:05 AM
Mythrol

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Originally Posted by NMThreeMVP

Seriously… how much do you think WCS is worth?!

Are you confusing Willie Cauley Stein with Karl Anthony Towns?

As I've stated multiple times. He's worth more than Tyreke.
07-08-2016, 12:06 AM
HornetGuru

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Originally Posted by Mythrol

Let's put it this way. How much are you willing to bet Tyreke alone cannot pull WCS? I'll match the amount and take your money when it doesn't happen. Because it won't.

If I were a GM and someone tried to trade me Tyreke for WCS I'd laugh and hang up, and I love Tyreke, but I think WCS is the next tyson chandler.
07-08-2016, 12:13 AM
Mythrol

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Originally Posted by HornetGuru

If I were a GM and someone tried to trade me Tyreke for WCS I'd laugh and hang up, and I love Tyreke, but I think WCS is the next tyson chandler.

I just don't understand how people still think Tyreke has that type of value when we've been trying to dump him for a week and still can't.

If we get any asset for him that's a major win. We don't even know if he can pass a physical right now.
07-08-2016, 12:45 AM
David Fisher

If the Pelicans can trade Tyreke Evans away and not have to accept a negative asset in return that will be a victory.
07-08-2016, 12:53 AM
frankatank109

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Originally Posted by Mythrol

Let's put it this way. How much are you willing to bet Tyreke alone cannot pull WCS? I'll match the amount and take your money when it doesn't happen. Because it won't.

I honestly don't think it will happen either simply because it would be too perfect. I just believe that Reke has enough value to maybe pull in WCS (perhaps in conjunction with a first rounder idk). I think y'all are seriously underrating Reke, which is weird because I'm usually one of Reke's biggest haters.
07-08-2016, 01:02 AM
Euphonetiks

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Originally Posted by frankatank109

I honestly don't think it will happen either simply because it would be too perfect. I just believe that Reke has enough value to maybe pull in WCS (perhaps in conjunction with a first rounder idk). I think y'all are seriously underrating Reke, which is weird because I'm usually one of Reke's biggest haters.

Expiring Tyreke coming off 3 surgeries and not yet ready to practice has no where near the value to get WCS. That is pure nonsense. No one is giving up a promising recent high lotto pick for a broke down Reke.
07-08-2016, 01:19 AM
TPDG22

You have to look at teams that need help at both guard spots. I've identified Dallas, Sacramento, Miami, Atlanta and Brooklyn as the top 5 potential destinations for his value. I can't see Vlade trading away WCS though.
07-08-2016, 01:38 AM
pawel

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Originally Posted by David Fisher

If the Pelicans can trade Tyreke Evans away and not have to accept a negative asset in return that will be a victory.

is player like Koufos a negative asset though

- he is 27
- he has 8,0 and 8,39 in next two years. With PO in 2018/19 (8,7)
- Reke is expiring.
- trade creates us 2,3 millions in cap space, but kills some of our flexibility
- but You might trade Ajinca for 2nd rounder to dump his salary (he is going to be paid for 3 years for 4,8-5,5 millions)
- You may even stretch Asik if You wish. But having C rotation of Asik-Koufos offers you something.

Divac has not traded Evans to NO. Vivek was not their owner at that time...
Center for 8 millions a year is kinda respected asset nowadays.

don't say that like it but don't see many Reke suitors.

Earlier I had Bulls (signed Wade and Rondo - they won't sign him), Cavs (were interested in the past), Nets (signed Lin and gave offer sheets to Crabbe and Johnson - maybe it depends on matching. if PTB and MIA match - than Marks might like Reke), Boston (to replace Turner?). Maybe Phila (cause expiring with upside might interest them) or OKC?

it is really really hard to predict...
07-08-2016, 03:22 AM
RUFshreve

We would have to atleast attach a protected first, if we were trying to trade Reke for WCS. Reke for Skal could be possible and I'd be thrilled with that deal.
07-08-2016, 06:09 AM
DroopyDawg

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Originally Posted by David Fisher

If the Pelicans can trade Tyreke Evans away and not have to accept a negative asset in return that will be a victory.

Exactly. We won't get anything that we can use (player) for Tyreke. Any player we get would either be a salary dump that we'll buyout (or cut), or an end-of-the-bench guy that will never see the floor.
07-08-2016, 07:11 AM
PELICANSFAN

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Originally Posted by TPDG22

You have to look at teams that need help at both guard spots. I've identified Dallas, Sacramento, Miami, Atlanta and Brooklyn as the top 5 potential destinations for his value. I can't see Vlade trading away WCS though.

Would be lucky to get Koufos or McLemore.
07-08-2016, 07:13 AM
tthier2

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Originally Posted by Mythrol

I just don't understand how people still think Tyreke has that type of value when we've been trying to dump him for a week and still can't.

If we get any asset for him that's a major win. We don't even know if he can pass a physical right now.

Everyone who is pro-reke are looking at his numbers when he plays not how he fits. Unfortunately for those fans the people who really know basketball( other teams coaches and GMs) only see how he really fits so we are stuck with a negative asset.

Like you said rose sells tickets because he once was great so people hope he can return to that. Tyreke was never great. Stat sheet filler at times , but that's it.
07-08-2016, 07:27 AM
Hugeaux II

Even with teams knowing that we don't want him, you'd think that Tyreke was somebody you could give away. He can help a team, it's just not a good fit here. Not encouraging seeing David post that just giving him away would be a victory - is that what you think, or what you are hearing? He's worth 'something' I just have no idea what in this environment
07-08-2016, 07:42 AM
HornetGuru

Tyreke and a top 3 protected 1st for WCS, do u do it?
07-08-2016, 07:58 AM
RaisingTheBar

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Originally Posted by HornetGuru

Tyreke and a top 3 protected 1st for WCS, do u do it?

I really don't like the idea of giving up a 1st for WCS. Maybe if it's beyond 2017.

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