Free Agency Thread

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Originally Posted by UNO Gracias

Yes please!

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What kinda $$$$ is he gonna want?

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Originally Posted by Tinman

What kinda $$$$ is he gonna want?

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I would throw whatever we have left at him. Heck, he might even pay us for the right to play.

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Originally Posted by Jabberwalker

So do you believe the crux of my argument? You believe that just because we have two of who you feel are top 15 players, we are guaranteed a playoff spot? Because that is what I am trying to refute, not what order they're in but rather, there are lots of good players (and personally I don't know what order my list is but I doubt he's top 20 for me) especially when you see how many teams have multiple good players whose fanbases could easily say the same thing.

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Idk anybody who would put cousins top 20 look at his numbers vs the ppl you claim is better than him? He basically put up Shaq numbers but then again everyone has their opinion.

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Originally Posted by Jabberwalker

Nope. Like it was pointed out, that list isn't representative but if you want to criticize someone for what players come to their mind first then that's on you.

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I'm not criticizing you... ok well how about this Why do you put all those ppl ahead of cousins and where do you put cousins in a list of top players?

Oh geezus is this really about to turn into top 15 players now?

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Originally Posted by bahmamamba

Oh geezus is this really about to turn into top 15 players now?

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It is summer time. Not a whole lot else to argue about. I was thinking after this we could rehash the fire monty debate?

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Originally Posted by Joe Gerrity

It is summer time. Not a whole lot else to argue about. I was thinking after this we could rehash the fire monty debate?

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Yeah sure in other threads lol idc about people talking about it but everytime I come on this thread looking for news you have 5 different arguments going on about different subjects lol

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@ZachLowe_NBA: Pelicans officials are meeting with Rajon Rondo today in Louisville about a possible one-year deal, league sources tell ESPN.

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Originally Posted by Imnos 2

@ZachLowe_NBA: Pelicans officials are meeting with Rajon Rondo today in Louisville about a possible one-year deal, league sources tell ESPN.

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Oh damn lol

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I'm ok with Rondo on a 1 year deal if it doesn't cripple us getting one of our other targets. It could also mean our other potential targets all failed.

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Originally Posted by bahmamamba

Yeah sure in other threads lol idc about people talking about it but everytime I come on this thread looking for news you have 5 different arguments going on about different subjects lol

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Sorry we can't keep on topic I'll try to stay on subject :D

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Originally Posted by JunkHead

I'm ok with Rondo on a 1 year deal if it doesn't cripple us getting one of our other targets. It could also mean our other potential targets all failed.

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Yeah I wouldn't mind him coming off the bench maybe I just idk were supposed to be looking for shooters and he can't exactly shoot the lights out also worry a little about the attitude.

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Originally Posted by tyler

Sorry we can't keep on topic I'll try to stay on subject :D

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Well now I just feel like an ************** lol man I'm just saying.

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I would just like to reiterate for the record that I think Rondo is a horrendous idea

would jrue slide over to the 2 and rondo is 1?

@wojespn: Pelicans see Rondo-Holiday on floor together. There's real traction on a possible deal, league sources tell @ZachLowe and me....

I believe people think Boogie is a top 20 player

http://bleacherreport.com/articles/2...anking-top-100
http://bleacherreport.com/articles/2...tion-right-now
https://www.si.com/nba/2016/09/12/nb...layer-rankings

After Boogie trade: "This team needs shooting."

Summer 2017: signs Rajon Rondo.

Boogie Cousins remains best 3pt shooter on roster.

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Originally Posted by Joe Gerrity

It is summer time. Not a whole lot else to argue about. I was thinking after this we could rehash the fire monty debate?

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The guy you are responding to is hardly keeping this thread pure. Save your energy...and the whales.

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Originally Posted by Caffeinedisastr

After Boogie trade: "This team needs shooting."

Summer 2017: signs Rajon Rondo.

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Yeah lol that's what I'm not getting about this

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Originally Posted by Imnos 2

@ZachLowe_NBA: Pelicans officials are meeting with Rajon Rondo today in Louisville about a possible one-year deal, league sources tell ESPN.

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Is this a move to help us get the Suns or Pistons to up their offer?

Maybe it's just me being a bit dumb, but I'm still expecting some type of deal for a PG. That way you're starting backcourt is the new PG and Holiday and your bakcup backcourt is Rondo and Crawford. I can see this happening. But the biggest issue would be the trade happening.

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Originally Posted by Caffeinedisastr

After Boogie trade: "This team needs shooting."

Summer 2017: signs Rajon Rondo.

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Rondo shooting 35 percent from 3 over the last 2 years

I think its simple. Rondo knows how to play with Boogie and Jrue knows how to play with AD.

i am not a big fan of rondo, but for the right price, it is worth a shot

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Originally Posted by Imnos 2

I think its simple. Rondo knows how to play with Boogie and Jrue knows how to play with AD.

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That and Dell has tried like hell to get Bledsoe and Phoenix ain't budging.

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Originally Posted by JunkHead

Sources: The San Antonio Spurs have renounced guard Jonathon Simmons, making him an unrestricted free agent.

— Shams Charania (@ShamsCharania) July 13, 2017

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lance stephenson with better iq

That's an awesome way to get more shooting on this team! Smh

Biggest issue with Rondo is his defense. He was absolutely terrible on D under George Karl. Much bigger issue than his questionable jumpshot.

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Originally Posted by Krysanthem

Biggest issue with Rondo is his defense. He was absolutely terrible on D under George Karl. Much bigger issue than his questionable jumpshot.

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I think that's fair.

And most of it is pure effort. He of course used to be maybe the best defensive PG in the game. Then he quit trying. Or more accurately, started just trying on certain plays. I don't know what it would take for him to reengage there, but a team with a chance to make some real noise with him at the helm might be a good start.

His shooting woes are actually a bit overstated anymore. He's not a good/natural shooter, but he's taught himself how to be a decent 3pt shooter now, albeit on low volume. Last two years:

2016-17 Rondo .376, Jrue .356
2015-16 Rondo .365, Jrue .336

So they're trying to pair Rondo & Jrue in the backcourt.

Everyone needs a PG that can't be on the floor at the end of games b/c of their FT shooting.

How much improvement can be done on 3pt shooting?

I mean, I know a guy like Rondo isn't going to get much better or he already would have to become a complete player.

But, like with AD. He decided to work on his 3pt shot and got decent at it. Now that is a player with an immense amount of talent working on something he probably neglected perfecting his inside game. But how much could people like Jrue, Hill, and even Moore improve in an off-season if the staff told them, this is the future, focus on it?

And yes, I realize this question is posed out of pure sadness that we have signed no one, yet.

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Originally Posted by JunkHead

Sources: The San Antonio Spurs have renounced guard Jonathon Simmons, making him an unrestricted free agent.

— Shams Charania (@ShamsCharania) July 13, 2017

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could this mean that he may come cheaper than expected? S T give a 2 up?

I don't trust San Antonio guys when removed from the Spurs system.

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Originally Posted by lsutigers33

could this mean that he may come cheaper than expected? S T give a 2 up?

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If Demps mamages to get Simmons and adds Rondo I would call it a pretty solid offseason. Shooting would be a problem, but at least you would have a solid guard and wing defense between Jrue, Simmons and Hill and Rondo did step up on D in the playoffs, so there is hope that "Playoff-Rondo" is actually still a thing.
But I doubt the Pel's have the capspace to add both of them.

Dell: Well Jrue, we gave you $126 Million. That's enough to expect you to cover up for Rondo's shortcomings.

Rondo shot .440 in corner 3s last year btw.

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Originally Posted by Caffeinedisastr

So they're trying to pair Rondo & Jrue in the backcourt.

Everyone needs a PG that can't be on the floor at the end of games b/c of their FT shooting.

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At least he won't start randomly throwing the ball to the other team when pressured. Or even when not pressured.

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Originally Posted by Bricklayer

At least he won't start randomly throwing the ball to the other team when pressured. Or even when not pressured.

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Brutal

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Originally Posted by Bricklayer

At least he won't start randomly throwing the ball to the other team when pressured. Or even when not pressured.

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Yeah, but because of his horrendous FT shooting, he may not even be on the court during those crunch times.

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Originally Posted by Caffeinedisastr

So they're trying to pair Rondo & Jrue in the backcourt.

Everyone needs a PG that can't be on the floor at the end of games b/c of their FT shooting.

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this is definitely a desperation move

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Originally Posted by Nola3

I would just like to reiterate for the record that I think Rondo is a horrendous idea

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it is a better idea than bringing ryno back

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Originally Posted by Caffeinedisastr

I don't trust San Antonio guys when removed from the Spurs system.

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I completely agree with this

Rondo shot a career worst FG% (40.8) last season, despite shooting well above his career avg (and a career best) from 3 (37.6).

— Will (@Will_NOLA) July 13, 2017

So with Rondo & Hill on the court,
Pelicans only have 3 players to guard.

But I suppose since everyone wanted to try Rubio,

Rondo is basically a Rubio-lite on a shorter, cheaper contract.

Should be Bledsoe or bust. Rondo gonna kill our spacing.