Who should become the first person to be drafted to the pelicans?

Oladipo is expected to make his announcement to forego his senior season and enter the draft.

just ran the simulator 10 times and we winded up with the 2nd pick twice and got smart the 6th pick 4 times and got burke and the 7th pick 4 times and got burke

did it 2 more times and got the 3rd pick both times and we got porter

finally got the 1st pick and we took smart so basically its saying this is who we go if we land the pick

1 smart
2 smart
2 porter if smart is gone (surprised it wasnt noel instead of porter)
3 smart
3 porter if smart is gone
6 burke
7 burke
8 burke

Looking at the standings and the remaining games for us, Sacramento, and Detroit, it is highly likely we would slot around 6th. I'm slowly warming up to the idea of nabbing Burke with the pick. I'm a bit torn though. I was rooting for Rivers to become our Point Guard of the future but Burke is to much of a talent to pass on.

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Originally Posted by HornetGuru

finally got the 1st pick and we took smart so basically its saying this is who we go if we land the pick

1 smart
2 smart
2 porter if smart is gone (surprised it wasnt noel instead of porter)
3 smart
3 porter if smart is gone
6 burke
7 burke
8 burke

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I've run it a bunch of times and that is what I tend to get also. All three of those look good to me.

You never know how those ping pong balls will fall come draft night. I'm one of those who feel like it's rigged.

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Originally Posted by NOLa.

You never know how those ping pong balls will fall come draft night. I'm one of those who feel like it's rigged.

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Too many people with different interests in the room for that to be the case imo.

Firmly in the Porter/Oladipo/Burke as 1A 1B 1C wagon.

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Originally Posted by NOLa.

You never know how those ping pong balls will fall come draft night. I'm one of those who feel like it's rigged.

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for sure it has to be rigged... happened with Cleveland the year after Lebron left, happened last year when CP3 left and we got AD with the #1 and will probably happen now with the Magic having the #1 in the next draft, after the Howard loss.

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Originally Posted by Mr. West

Firmly in the Porter/Oladipo/Burke as 1A 1B 1C wagon.

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i got porter and burke as 1a and 1b with oladipo and shabazz as 2a and 2b

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Originally Posted by takezor

for sure it has to be rigged... happened with Cleveland the year after Lebron left, happened last year when CP3 left and we got AD with the #1 and will probably happen now with the Magic having the #1 in the next draft, after the Howard loss.

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So when teams lose superstar players and get worse, they tend to win the lotto? NO WAY :hihi:

The better point would have been Chicago getting it for Rose, but that's why it's a lottery.

I love when the Pelicans and Saints draft best player available. They use FA to address the needs they believe they need.

I'd trade our pick for Jimmy Butler.

CJ Calhoun> Burke
He isn't the PG people want to fill out their dream 5,5, but we need offense. He'll join Steph curry and will open everything up inside. He can dribble, create and is 6'3 w a 6"6 reach.

Mclemore
smart
olaDIPO
Calhoun!

Don't pass up a star for a true pg

MCCOLLUM

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Originally Posted by fullcourtpress

CJ Calhoun> Burke
He isn't the PG people want to fill out their dream 5,5, but we need offense. He'll join Steph curry and will open everything up inside. He can dribble, create and is 6'3 w a 6"6 reach.

Mclemore
smart
olaDIPO
Calhoun!

Don't pass up a star for a true pg

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FFS its McCollum

McCollum McCollum McCollum :hihi:

Is he the same guy that called him Calhoun earlier?

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Originally Posted by AD23forMVP

Is he the same guy that called him Calhoun earlier?

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Same guy who's said Calhoun for the last couple of months

I really want to go SF with Porter, but I don't know if he's a guy that can get us 17-20 points a game. Also, Shabazz is a nut case so I'll pass on him. I say let's get a premier PG that has athletic ability to drive and dish with also a nice jumpshot while we can in either Trey Burke or Marcus Smart.

Lol, I sincerely apologize

Btw Smart's leadership skills & intangibles won't show during individual workouts so don't be surprised if he is there when we pick.
Smart m Montana Ellis would be dreamy

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Originally Posted by fullcourtpress

Lol, I sincerely apologize

Btw Smart's leadership skills & intangibles won't show during individual workouts so don't be surprised if he is there when we pick.
Smart m Montana Ellis would be dreamy

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Montana......you crack me up!!!

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Originally Posted by Topdawg26

I really want to go SF with Porter, but I don't know if he's a guy that can get us 17-20 points a game. Also, Shabazz is a nut case so I'll pass on him. I say let's get a premier PG that has athletic ability to drive and dish with also a nice jumpshot while we can in either Trey Burke or Marcus Smart.

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I want otto porter badly, he did everything on a bad team getting double teamed and shot a high percentage, think he averaged like 17-7-3 or something and he is young, would be a perfect fit on this team, he is awesome on D too. bazz will be a 20-4 guy in the league but i can see porter being a 17-7-3 guy who plays D, ill take porter.

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Originally Posted by fullcourtpress

Lol, I sincerely apologize

Btw Smart's leadership skills & intangibles won't show during individual workouts so don't be surprised if he is there when we pick.
Smart m Montana Ellis would be dreamy

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rather oj mayo, he is younger and cheaper.

Looks like we will finish with the 5th worst record so theoretically if the lotto went in gordon we have a chance at landing noel, smart, mclemore, porter, burke

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Originally Posted by HornetGuru

I want otto porter badly, he did everything on a bad team getting double teamed and shot a high percentage, think he averaged like 17-7-3 or something and he is young, would be a perfect fit on this team, he is awesome on D too. bazz will be a 20-4 guy in the league but i can see porter being a 17-7-3 guy who plays D, ill take porter.

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I've said it multiple times, and I'll say it again.

If we're serious about moving forward with a Rivers-Gordon-Anderson-Davis core, Porter is, by far, the best fit.

Of course, it would be hard to pass up a Nerlens Noel or Ben McLemore if the opportunity presented itself.

But I would be extremely pleased to walk out the draft with Otto on the team.

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Originally Posted by PelsFan2313

I've said it multiple times, and I'll say it again.

If we're serious about moving forward with a Rivers-Gordon-Anderson-Davis core, Porter is, by far, the best fit.

Of course, it would be hard to pass up a Nerlens Noel or Ben McLemore if the opportunity presented itself.

But I would be extremely pleased to walk out the draft with Otto on the team.

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Agreed, porter truely is a do it all guy and did it while the other team game planned for him, perfect fit for the team, or basially any team, i see so much granger in him

crappy part is i see the first 4 picks going noel mclemore smart porter leaving us with burke or bazz, still i'd be happy with either, just really wanted porter or smart.

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Originally Posted by HornetGuru

crappy part is i see the first 4 picks going noel mclemore smart porter leaving us with burke or bazz, still i'd be happy with either, just really wanted porter or smart.

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Yeah, the only player I think could interfere with that four-player combination is Oladipo at this point.

If we stay at 5 we're gonna take Oladipo and you can getcha popcorn ready for the Gordon tweets.

Trey Burke is my final answer. Everyone else available is just an also ran.

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Originally Posted by Purple Haze

If we stay at 5 we're gonna take Oladipo and you can getcha popcorn ready for the Gordon tweets.

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Would love.

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Originally Posted by Purple Haze

If we stay at 5 we're gonna take Oladipo and you can getcha popcorn ready for the Gordon tweets.

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u think they would take oladipo over burke or bazz?

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Originally Posted by HornetGuru

u think they would take oladipo over burke or bazz?

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I really do, I feel that he's a perfect Monty/Dell type player and remember they went to more than one Indiana game. I don't think they were checking out just Zeller. Hey I could be wrong.

But I think their board is

Noel
McLemore
Smart
Porter
Oladipo
Burke

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Originally Posted by Purple Haze

I really do, I feel that he's a perfect Monty/Dell type player and remember they went to more than one Indiana game. I don't think they were checking out just Zeller. Hey I could be wrong.

But I think their board is

Noel
McLemore
Smart
Porter
Oladipo
Burke

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Good observation

I think smart over Ben

Noel
Smart
Ben
Porter
Dipo

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Originally Posted by Shelbywmccarty

I think smart over Ben

Noel
Smart
Ben
Porter
Dipo

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I would put Smart over Noel but thats just me. I don't see them taking Noel if we just so happened to win the lotto again.

My list today (always subject to change):

Marcus Smart: good leader, has all the tools, like his strength
Ben McLemore: put McLemore #1 if Gordon is traded, I think he and Noel have the most potential in the draft
Nerlens Noel: great prospect, just not for this team, but it would be tough to pass him up if he is there

Otto Porter: would be a solid all around contributor in the position of most need for the team. I'd be thrilled to have him.

Victor Oladipo: great athlete that would give us good defense and rebounding
Trey Burke: I'm a little concerned about his size, but he was the best player in college this year and he sure put on a show in the tourney

drop off to next set of guys

Shabazz: good scorer, but he seems one dimensional and I'm not sure about his attitude
Anthony Bennett: like his strength, but he isn't a good fit for a team already stacked at PF
Alex Len: I think he would be a solid contributor, but I don't like him nearly as much as the guys in the top group.

Gumbo I like most of it, but your Smart and Oladipo takes are a little incomplete. Smart is strong and a good kid, but his shooting %s (tools) are severely inconsistant, and conversely Oladipo's are some of the best of the entire group. He's not just all defense and length.

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Originally Posted by Gumbo Jackson

My list today (always subject to change):

Marcus Smart: good leader, has all the tools, like his strength
Ben McLemore: put McLemore #1 if Gordon is traded, I think he and Noel have the most potential in the draft
Nerlens Noel: great prospect, just not for this team, but it would be tough to pass him up if he is there

Otto Porter: would be a solid all around contributor in the position of most need for the team. I'd be thrilled to have him.

Victor Oladipo: great athlete that would give us good defense and rebounding
Trey Burke: I'm a little concerned about his size, but he was the best player in college this year and he sure put on a show in the tourney

drop off to next set of guys

Shabazz: good scorer, but he seems one dimensional and I'm not sure about his attitude
Anthony Bennett: like his strength, but he isn't a good fit for a team already stacked at PF
Alex Len: I think he would be a solid contributor, but I don't like him nearly as much as the guys in the top group.

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Great list, only 2 things, i think oladipo will score a little better than people think, and i think shabazz's game is taylor made for the NBA, i dont think he has an attitude just a competitor and wants to win like Kobe.

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Originally Posted by Purple Haze

Gumbo I like most of it, but your Smart and Oladipo takes are a little incomplete. Smart is strong and a good kid, but his shooting %s (tools) are severely inconsistant, and conversely Oladipo's are some of the best of the entire group. He's not just all defense and length.

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Yeah, I know Smart needs some work on his shooting, but I have always heard that is one of the easiest things to improve. When I said he had the tools I meant the physical and mental tools in place so that he can hopefully improve the parts of his game that aren't there yet. I'll be honest, it would feel kind of underwhelming to take him with the first pick since he isn't quite there yet. I just think he is the best combo of potential and fit.

That boy Smart is strong.

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Originally Posted by Gumbo Jackson

Yeah, I know Smart needs some work on his shooting, but I have always heard that is one of the easiest things to improve. When I said he had the tools I meant the physical and mental tools in place so that he can hopefully improve the parts of his game that aren't there yet. I'll be honest, it would feel kind of underwhelming to take him with the first pick since he isn't quite there yet. I just think he is the best combo of potential and fit.

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It is the easiest problem to fix, and also Smart's form on his jumper is perfect, it just hasnt been dropping, but go look at people like otto porter and trey burke their first year then sophmore year, smart will be fine and prob be the best player out of this draft.

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Originally Posted by HornetGuru

Great list, only 2 things, i think oladipo will score a little better than people think, and i think shabazz's game is taylor made for the NBA, i dont think he has an attitude just a competitor and wants to win like Kobe.

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At first when I read about Shabazz I thought the same thing, and players certainly need a bit of killer instinct in them to succeed in a competitive environment like the NBA (you want someone who wants the ball). For some reason the whole revelation about his age just kind of soured me on him. I hear his Dad is kind of a head case and I guess I took the age thing as him trying to trick teams as a signal of poor character, so it lowered my opinion of him a bit. Maybe I'm overreacting or reading the situation wrong, but it was just enough of a concern for me to drop him a little.

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Originally Posted by Gumbo Jackson

At first when I read about Shabazz I thought the same thing, and players certainly need a bit of killer instinct in them to succeed in a competitive environment like the NBA (you want someone who wants the ball). For some reason the whole revelation about his age just kind of soured me on him. I hear his Dad is kind of a head case and I guess I took the age thing as him trying to trick teams as a signal of poor character, so it lowered my opinion of him a bit. Maybe I'm overreacting or reading the situation wrong, but it was just enough of a concern for me to drop him a little.

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Ya the age thing doesnt scare me off, his dad prob made him do it because he wants his son to get drafted lower and get paid, bazz is a kid and he isnt the first person to lie about something stupid, it doesnt both me at all really.

im high on bazz, thats why say we land the 5th pick and noel mclemore smart and porter are gone id rather trade down and take bazz.

Speaking of Bazz and liars from Vegas, does anyone remember this story?

http://sports.espn.go.com/espn/colum...ene&id=3236039

Thankfully it had a happy-ish ending.
http://espn.go.com/college-sports/re...-western-state

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Originally Posted by HornetGuru

Ya the age thing doesnt scare me off, his dad prob made him do it because he wants his son to get drafted lower and get paid, bazz is a kid and he isnt the first person to lie about something stupid, it doesnt both me at all really.

im high on bazz, thats why say we land the 5th pick and noel mclemore smart and porter are gone id rather trade down and take bazz.

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You might be right that it isn't a big deal, but it put an asterisk on him in my mind, especially with some prior questions about his personality. Maybe I'm a little gun shy since the Hornets already have some occasional attitude issues w/ one of their best players.

Situation will be a lot clearer once they have the lotto drawing. Then we will know if the choice will be in the Noel, McLemore, Smart, Porter range, or the Oladipo, Burke, Bennett, Bazz range.

I keep forgetting Smart is a freshman. I'll be ok with him at 1-3 if we get it.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature...&v=omY6v5jJIjw

The Pelicans are set for defense, which I love. That's why I'd like instant offense like this guy. You need a guard who teams are scared to let shoot.

high release
finishes and dribbles well with left and right
money from deep

Who is that? That's definitely isn't CJ Calhoun....