Who should become the first person to be drafted to the pelicans?

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Originally Posted by Shrimpnose

Trey Burke for me, hands down, after what Ive seen this tourney, he has the IT factor and will be more influential than Lillard and Chris Paul were / have been. .. Size is only question, but for so many amazing athletes who's size is questioned, there are freaks (and I dont mean that negatively), that always compensate for their lack of optimum size and overcome otherwise. He has freaky BB scoring, dribbling, passing skills and is charismatic on the court. Why would smart be a better PG pick?

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Woah dude, slow down :hihi:

lillard and burke are nothing alike besides being clutch and good shooters, lillard is way more athletic and explosive, burke is a better passer

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Originally Posted by HornetGuru

lillard and burke are nothing alike besides being clutch and good shooters, lillard is way more athletic and explosive, burke is a better passer

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Agreed. Burke will have a similar working blowup though.

At this young an age, Burke can be better than Lillard currently is.

How do yall feel about Giannis Adetokoubo SF from greece? 6"9, super athletic, many people are comparing him to Scottie Pippen. hes projected in the 12-15 range.

I'd temper my expectations, but he's gonna be really solid.

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Originally Posted by HornetGuru

How do yall feel about Giannis Adetokoubo SF from greece? 6"9, super athletic, many people are comparing him to Scottie Pippen. hes projected in the 12-15 range.

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Never heard of him.

he dropped 45 points the other day

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Originally Posted by HornetGuru

he dropped 45 points the other day

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On who? A YMCA Rec team?

Here is a pic of his ridiculous hand:

http://content.draftexpress.com/gall...1361903020.jpg

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Originally Posted by UNO Gracias

Never heard of him.

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Originally Posted by UNO Gracias

On who? A YMCA Rec team?

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Huh? Google it. Stupid comment.

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Originally Posted by UNO Gracias

Never heard of him.

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Quite alright. I didn't either until that video was uploaded.

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Originally Posted by HornetGuru

How do yall feel about Giannis Adetokoubo SF from greece? 6"9, super athletic, many people are comparing him to Scottie Pippen. hes projected in the 12-15 range.

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From the highlights I've seen, He screams fundamentally raw. He has it all though. Size, Length, Body Control, Fluidity, and Athleticism. But he has a slow first step and his strides are short for a man his size. He has some serious potential. He needs 3+ years of development.

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Originally Posted by nolaslim213

Here is a pic of his ridiculous hand:

http://content.draftexpress.com/gall...1361903020.jpg

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What in the world...?!

That dude is a freak of an athlete. It'll be interesting to see where he goes in the draft. He looked extremely raw in the video. Like Aminu raw. He's certainly got the potential to be big-time.

Just a bit sick of the word potential...

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Originally Posted by Purple Haze

Huh? Google it. Stupid comment.

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Oh. This guy again.

Yeah. Those hands. The alien ones right? Sorry. A foreign player is a foreign player until they do something of note likes Rubio or Gasol. I don't get wet in the pants over Michael Pietrus like you do obviously.

Wow. Said he grew 3 inches in the last few months ? I think this kids going to be 7' easily and he's pretty fluid for that. Stupid raw though. A guy if you don't like anyone on the board you take, let him play in Europe for 3 years and bring him over.

He reminds me of a mix between pippen and lebron, and no i DO NOT mean he is or will be that good but he is super athletic, great handles, great passer, great defender, great body control, great size, needs to work on his jumper
He is only 18, just turned, no doubt in my mind his jumper will get way better and he hasnt even tapped his athletic potential. I love his potential, and yes he will take 3 years to develop but i mean i really dont see us winning a championship in the next 2 years...

I'll take credit for being the first to bring up that kid.

Congrats. I wonder if he makes a mark in the NBA.

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Originally Posted by Purple Haze

Woah dude, slow down :hihi:

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Hey, he's still in the game, just watch and not be sold! gonna be hard He'll perform and break Syracuse's Zone D.

Everybody's something and Trey Burke is now IT ( and a FR!!) , for me at least. plus we could REALLY use what he'd bring, more than Porter or Shabbaz over Aminu, or Smart over Rivers, Vasquez, or Roberts, or Noels over AD, or McElmore over Gordon.... Watch him outscore Syracuse.

Cannot wait for this offseason, cant what to see what the hornets and saints do!

Man Darius Miller is shooting 43.3% from 3 this season and in the month of march for 10 games he is shooting an absolutely insane 73% from 3!!! Combine that with his crafty moves, great passes, great size, high IQ and good D, I really like him, he only just turned 23 and is only 4 months older than damian lillard.
Not saying he is gonna be our long term starting SF but he has earned the minutes.

Oh and I forgot he is shooting 100% from the FT line and has a 2:1 assist to turnover ratio.
Can u say steal of the 2nd round?

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Originally Posted by HornetGuru

Man Darius Miller is shooting 43.3% from 3 this season and in the month of march for 10 games he is shooting an absolutely insane 73% from 3!!! Combine that with his crafty moves, great passes, great size, high IQ and good D, I really like him, he only just turned 23 and is only 4 months older than damian lillard.
Not saying he is gonna be our long term starting SF but he has earned the minutes.

Oh and I forgot he is shooting 100% from the FT line and has a 2:1 assist to turnover ratio.
Can u say steal of the 2nd round?

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He's assuming the mold of the player we all expected him to become.

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Originally Posted by nolaslim213

Here is a pic of his ridiculous hand:

http://content.draftexpress.com/gall...1361903020.jpg

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Based off the video, yes I like him. But that is the first i've seen of the guy. I'd honestly rather go with Porter, Burke, Smart, or Bazz. I think with them and Noel and McLemore we will have our choice between the 6 and I got all the "potential" I can handle with Aminu and Rivers. Just give me someone who will produce and i'll be happy.

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Originally Posted by Shrimpnose

Hey, he's still in the game, just watch and not be sold! gonna be hard He'll perform and break Syracuse's Zone D.

Everybody's something and Trey Burke is now IT ( and a FR!!) , for me at least. plus we could REALLY use what he'd bring, more than Porter or Shabbaz over Aminu, or Smart over Rivers, Vasquez, or Roberts, or Noels over AD, or McElmore over Gordon.... Watch him outscore Syracuse.

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Hey I agree. I'm the first person to start dropping Trey Burke name around here so I'm a huge fan. I also agree that he'll probably be the best player in this draft and on our team if we draft him.

Where you lost everybody is when you said he'll be better than Chris Paul who is shaping up to be all time great especially at his position. Not that Trey can't just that it's far too soon to say. Not that that stopped anybody here from going crazy with Anthony Davis fever so people shouldn't come down on you too hard.

The last time I followed a college career this closely and was this excited about a player it was CP3 oddly enough.

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Originally Posted by PelsFan2313

He's assuming the mold of the player we all expected him to become.

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Exactly. Always hoped, love that kid.

Burke dosen't have that quickness or turbo that CP had when he entered the league. He does have some of his leadership qualities and is a great passer and a good shooter (something CP wasn't on earlier on). In college a lack of quickness, won't hinder you that much but in the league it's a different story. He also looks like he could possibly be a great combo guard or a short 2. He looks like he could be too similar to Vasquez which would be redundant to draft right now.

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Originally Posted by wuggie

Burke dosen't have that quickness or turbo that CP had when he entered the league. He does have some of his leadership qualities and is a great passer and a good shooter (something CP wasn't on earlier on). In college a lack of quickness, won't hinder you that much but in the league it's a different story. He also looks like he could possibly be a great combo guard or a short 2. He looks like he could be too similar to Vasquez which would be redundant to draft right now.

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He doesn't have elite quickness and may be a shade less quick than Paul leaving Wake but it ain't by much. He's quicker than Chris post injuries and Paul still have plenty of quickness. To say his quickness and/or foot speed is on par with Vasquez is absurd IMO.

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Originally Posted by da ThRONe

He doesn't have elite quickness and may be a shade less quick than Paul leaving Wake but it ain't by much. He's quicker than Chris post injuries and Paul still have plenty of quickness. To say his quickness and/or foot speed is on par with Vasquez is absurd IMO.

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I'm not saying his foot speed is on par with Vasquez lol Im saying his game is and what he would bring too the team is but his defense may suffer in a similar fashion.

I also think Burke will be a better pro player than college player, i could see him averaging 19-10

Sorry if this has been already discussed ( I haven't read all 80 pages), but any chance some team would trade our unprotected first this year and a player for their unprotected first next year? Not sure if any teams need to make a PR splash or something like that this year. Or how much teams are valuing next year's draft class in particular. There's just no one I love this year. Oladipo comes closest, but I'd still rather roll the dice for next year.

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Originally Posted by Bigeauz

Sorry if this has been already discussed ( I haven't read all 80 pages), but any chance some team would trade our unprotected first this year and a player for their unprotected first next year? Not sure if any teams need to make a PR splash or something like that this year. Or how much teams are valuing next year's draft class in particular. There's just no one I love this year. Oladipo comes closest, but I'd still rather roll the dice for next year.

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It depends, we dont know which draft pick we will get and who will be available, say he wind up with the 3rd pick and mclemore or smart are on the board and a team falls in love w them then its very possible.

Fair enough. Hard to answer I guess before the lottery happens. Big difference in value between 3 and 9 this year.

I know a lot of people want bazz or oladipo at 4 or 5 but if we could find a way to trade down and get 2 picks in the 10-20 range then id love to draft burke and either GR3 or that greece kid.

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Originally Posted by HornetGuru

I know a lot of people want bazz or oladipo at 4 or 5 but if we could find a way to trade down and get 2 picks in the 10-20 range then id love to draft burke and either GR3 or that greece kid.

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Burke almost certainly won't be available at 10, but GRIII is a nice player. I love his potential moving forward, and I'm afraid he is going to rise up the draft boards after his great tournament.

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Originally Posted by HornetGuru

I know a lot of people want bazz or oladipo at 4 or 5 but if we could find a way to trade down and get 2 picks in the 10-20 range then id love to draft burke and either GR3 or that greece kid.

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That kid from Greece could end up being something serious....he'll take a couple of years but who knows what Monty could turn him into.

I'd be super careful with drafting Giannis, been following him loosely for a little while. He has so much athletic advantage over his competitors, that's what makes him seem good. He is super skinny, his handles are worse than Aminu's, maybe even worse than Javale. And has no jumper. Calling him the poor mans Pippen is pretty much right, he currently is a poor man's Julian Wright as well. His abilities are made to look far better playing in that league. Not saying he couldn't pan out, but it'd be years away and he just can't shoot, which I have had enough of from our 3's

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Originally Posted by carpo_07

I'd be super careful with drafting Giannis, been following him loosely for a little while. He has so much athletic advantage over his competitors, that's what makes him seem good. He is super skinny, his handles are worse than Aminu's, maybe even worse than Javale. And has no jumper. Calling him the poor mans Pippen is pretty much right, he currently is a poor man's Julian Wright as well. His abilities are made to look far better playing in that league. Not saying he couldn't pan out, but it'd be years away and he just can't shoot, which I have had enough of from our 3's

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Well he turned 18 like 5 months ago so i can get over the being skinny and lack of jumpshot, he is a baby, and to have that athletic ability that young is scary, he wont do much his first 2 years in the league but when he puts it together he could be an absolute force

id draft him, leave him in greece for one more year so he doesnt get beat up and he can work on his fundamentals, then next year bring him over year and prepare him for NBA bodies. He seems like a good kid.

His brother is a better shooter from what I have seen and still a fairly elite athlete

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Originally Posted by HornetGuru

id draft him, leave him in greece for one more year so he doesnt get beat up and he can work on his fundamentals, then next year bring him over year and prepare him for NBA bodies. He seems like a good kid.

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I'd be ok using a very late 2nd and Euro-stashing him. But I would want him at least in a Division 1 League preferably a bigger and better one. Still I think not having a jumpshot after playing 9 years of ball is a bit of a concern.

And for 2 years plus I think

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Originally Posted by carpo_07

I'd be ok using a very late 2nd and Euro-stashing him. But I would want him at least in a Division 1 League preferably a bigger and better one. Still I think not having a jumpshot after playing 9 years of ball is a bit of a concern.

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Ya well no way he makes it to the late 2nd, ive seen a couple mocks that have him in the 15-25 range, i cant see him making it out of the 1st round, MAYBE early 2nd, way too much potential and skill set.

Rivers, Davis, and this kid would give us a very big and long team, 6"4 PG, 6"10 SF 6"11 PF

What's Rivers wingspan? That counts more as far as length is concern than height does.

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Originally Posted by da ThRONe

What's Rivers wingspan? That counts more as far as length is concern than height does.

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6'7" according to Draft Express

http://www.draftexpress.com/profile/Austin-Rivers-5743/

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Originally Posted by da ThRONe

What's Rivers wingspan? That counts more as far as length is concern than height does.

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its a combo of height and reach, which it total standing reach, thats how u determine length really, i'd like to see what rivers standing reach is compared to people like jrue holliday, rose, curry and westbrook

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Originally Posted by HornetGuru

its a combo of height and reach, which it total standing reach, thats how u determine length really, i'd like to see what rivers standing reach is compared to people like jrue holliday, rose, curry and westbrook

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Standing reach is 8ft

Rivers: height 6'5" wingspan 6'7.25" standing reach 8'.05"
Rose: height 6'.25" wingspan 6'8" standing reach 8'.25"
Curry: height 6'3.25" wingspan 6'3.5" standing reach 8'.1"

can someone tell me how rivers is taller and has a longer wingspan than curry but curry has a better standing reach? Does rivers just have the widest shoulders in the world or somethin? lol wtf.