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Originally Posted by Kibner
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03-19-2013, 11:12 AMNOLa.
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03-19-2013, 11:32 AMPelicans78When healthy...Quote:
Originally Posted by NOLa.
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03-19-2013, 11:32 AMKibnerAt least before his injury, he was the second best defender at the center position. He's really good at that side of the ball.Quote:
Originally Posted by NOLa.
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03-19-2013, 11:35 AMHornetGuru
greg oden is also a defensive monster when healthy, which is never
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03-19-2013, 11:39 AMEman5805
I just can't get behind Noel all the way. Just...can't. Don't know why.
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03-19-2013, 11:39 AMKibnerNah, he fouled way too much even when he was able to play.Quote:
Originally Posted by HornetGuru
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03-19-2013, 11:48 AMPurple HazeOnly thing that scares me is the knee. Otherwise he'll be a 245 lb. defensive monster in two years. Might make losing out on Drummond worth it. :hihi:Quote:
Originally Posted by Eman5805
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03-19-2013, 11:53 AMRUFshreveDid you get to watch his last few weeks of play before his injury? Dude was beastin. I'd LOVE to pair him with AD.Quote:
Originally Posted by Eman5805
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03-19-2013, 11:55 AMramsters60I am the very same way and I just don't feel he is the one we need....Quote:
Originally Posted by Eman5805
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03-19-2013, 12:06 PMPrimetimeI posted that the obvious choice would be Nerlens if McLemore goes #1. However, I don't think the Hornets feel the same way and here's why...Quote:
Originally Posted by Eman5805
The Hornets are tired of rebuilding. Taking Nerlens sets the rebuild back by an entire year, possibly more. He tore his ACL; that's not a bone bruise. As a comparison, Derrick Rose tore his ACL in late April. It's soon going to be a full 11 months since the injury and he's still not playing. * Nerlens tore his ACL in mid-February. The flipside is that they are projecting a 6-8 month recovery time for Nerlens, but you have to wonder if that's realistic. Rubio tore his ACL last March, and returned in December, but it's taken him a while to get back to normal. For him, it's pretty much been an 11 month process. Iman Shumpert tore his ACL the same day as Derrick Rose, and has already returned but says he's not 100%.
My point is that the Hornets may not be willing to wait. Our front office and coaching staff know better than anyone that if they suck again next year, they're going to be on the hot seat.
Add on to this that ultimately our frontcourt pairing will be Anderson and Davis. Both give you versatility + Jason Smith will be back. Adding another big would really muddy the frontcourt minutes.
Given what I've posted, I'd project the Hornets board to look something like this
1. McLemore -- flat out better than everyone else available
2. Smart -- competitive, and would add size/strength to our backcourt. + he plays defense and hits the glass
3. Oladipo -- adds energy and perimeter defense which we currently have none of + raw athlete
4. Porter -- fills a hole at SF. Not the best athlete, but skilled and we have 0 skilled swingmen with size
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03-19-2013, 12:06 PMda ThRONeNa Drummond has a once in a generation level raw talent. 6'11 guys 275, with handles like a SF, touch around the basket, great hands and feet, lateral quickness like elite guards, 7'6 wing spans, with springs for legs may never be seen again for a long time. He's combo is Wilt/Shaq like when you consider where he is compared to any other big man right now. How he slipped to 9 when a guy like Kwame Brown once was taken 1st overall is a mystery.Quote:
Originally Posted by Purple Haze
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03-19-2013, 12:19 PMAD23forMVPIt really isn't.Quote:
Originally Posted by da ThRONe
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03-19-2013, 12:21 PMRUFshreveIf only he could've dropped one more pick...Quote:
Originally Posted by da ThRONe
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03-19-2013, 12:22 PMdonatoThere's no guarantee Davis will ever be a full-time center. Have there even been any reports that Monty/Dell want him there?Quote:
Originally Posted by Primetime
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03-19-2013, 12:24 PMdonatoAgree, but I think people are too high on him right now. Let's see how he develops. I think there needs to be time before people even mention him in the same thread as Wilt and Shaq, even if they are talking about physical makeup.Quote:
Originally Posted by RUFshreve
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03-19-2013, 12:34 PMNOLa.Ah I see, yeah I agree to an extent then. He's been nowhere near as active ok that side of the ball since his Bucks days. I was thinking primarily at this moment Bogut is a offensive postup man now more than ever.Quote:
Originally Posted by Kibner
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03-19-2013, 12:34 PMRUFshreveNo there hasn't, people are just making assumptions.Quote:
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03-19-2013, 12:43 PMwuggie
Drummond has crazy potential but his will and basketball instincts aren't really there. Where Shaq had all of this and wanted to destroy people. He just seems to lack a killer will to use his gifts. He has the gifts of superstar but like the mind of bench player or something. It's weird lol
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03-19-2013, 01:03 PMPrimetimeDefinite assumption, but I don't think it's a crazy assumption. We can't play Ryan at the 3 because he becomes a perimeter defensive liability + he loses his advantage on the offensive end as well. Add on to this that he makes 8+ million a year so we wouldn't want to bench him.Quote:
Originally Posted by RUFshreve
I don't see anyway we don't have Davis and Anderson on the court when the game matters next year.
So 3 spots are taken:
Eric Gordon
Ryan Anderson
Anthony Davis
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03-19-2013, 01:51 PMPurple HazeBut is Smart that guy?Quote:
Originally Posted by Primetime
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03-19-2013, 02:10 PMPrimetimeI personally am torn on how good Smart is but given how I think the Hornets may approach the building of this team, yea, I feel Smart would make sense. If we're gonna be small in the frontcourt, all 5 guys have to hit the glass. Rebounding is probably Smart's number one strength. That's the one thing I'm sure will carry over into the NBA for him.Quote:
Originally Posted by Purple Haze
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03-19-2013, 02:23 PMBeeBall Reasons
Right now I'm looking at
Tier 1
1) Mclemore
2) Smart
3) Noel
Tier 2
4) Burke
5) Shabazz
6) Porter
7) Bennett (love his game but falls because of fit)
Tier 3
8) Oladipo
9) Cody Zeller
10) CJ McCollum
11) Alex Len
12) Poythress
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03-19-2013, 02:26 PMkclaboy504Exactly how I feel. I think him and Davis is a horrible pairing with both of those guys being so light in the azz. I want a true 7 footer with an offensive game that isn't a twig n hope he puts enough weight on. We have our shot blocking presence already on this teAm.Now we need OFFENSE. We need a guy we can put the ball in his hands down low and the other team has to respect his scoring ability to open it up for everyone else. Noel has no offense what so ever.Quote:
Originally Posted by Eman5805
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03-19-2013, 02:29 PMkclaboy504
We are 3rd worse now all alone in that spot. If we stay there we are most def in the running for mclemore.
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03-19-2013, 02:31 PMHornetGurui like ur list a lot, when its ur turn to pick u always take the tier 1 player over 2 regardless of need, i just hope we land mclemore and noel and that will be 2 years in a row we land a top 2 player in the draftQuote:
Originally Posted by BeeBall Reasons
last year it was davis and lillard
this year itll be mclemore or noel in my opinion