Lakers already in mid-season form.

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The thing about the Lakers is, sure AD is playing at an MVP level right now. But even with AD and Lebron playing, they're barely a .500 team. There's NO CHANCE they both stay healthy the rest of the season without one or both missing a batch of games.

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Took all of three days for my prediction to come true. Time to hit the sportsbooks.

Lakers win on the luckiest final possession imaginable. Dribbled the ball off his foot... but instead of a turnover, the Wiz left someone wide open underneath the basket.

Lakers lose by 14 (wasn't that close) to the Kings. Drop to 13-18.

Bron put another 34 mins into his body

Lakers are screwed


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Espn just posted an article saying Anthony Davis is out "indefinitely" with a stress injury in his foot.

Lakers say Anthony Davis has been diagnosed with a stress injury in his right foot. He remains out indefinitely.

— Shams Charania (@ShamsCharania) December 23, 2022

Confirmed again.

That's gonna be a while, I feel

Stress....



fracture? Perhaps?

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Lakers say Anthony Davis has been diagnosed with a stress injury in his right foot. He remains out indefinitely.

— Shams Charania (@ShamsCharania) December 23, 2022

Confirmed again.

That's gonna be a while, I feel

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I have a feeling he will be out until Feb 4th....when the Pels and Lakers play again.

I'm seeing 2-3 months as speculation by some.

It's only a matter of time when Bron's body breaks down from carrying the Lakers without help

Big loss for the Lakers tonight — drop this one at home to the Hornets! And the Hornets with a healthy Lamelo Ball can make a run to get ahead of the Lakers in the standings.
And now the Lakers’ extended road trip begins.

It's all falling into place

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I'm not sure which is more likely... this, or Bron just throwing in the towel on the season (at times, it looks like he already has).

Merry Pelmas, everyone!

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I'm not sure which is more likely... this, or Bron just throwing in the towel on the season (at times, it looks like he already has).

Merry Pelmas, everyone!

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I think that moment where his shoe came off on the game-winning drive last night might have done it for him. The look on his face as he just sat on the floor was not a positive one.

Thank God for Pat Bev going full tard on that 4 v 2 fast break

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Thank God for Pat Bev going full tard on that 4 v 2 fast break

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Patrick Beverly has one of the biggest gaps between who he actually and how people talk about him (average fan).

If you listened to your average guy, he's a gritty hardnosed defender who isn't an elite scorer but makes all the winning plays and really runs the floor.

The moment you watch him he's just a yappy foul-merchant who talks big game to try and overshadow his lack of top tier NBA talent. Like a barking chihuahua.

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Patrick Beverly has one of the biggest gaps between who he actually and how people talk about him (average fan).

If you listened to your average guy, he's a gritty hardnosed defender who isn't an elite scorer but makes all the winning plays and really runs the floor.

The moment you watch him he's just a yappy foul-merchant who talks big game to try and overshadow his lack of top tier NBA talent. Like a barking chihuahua.

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So pretty much like most short men.

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So pretty much like most short men.

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Short for an NBA player. Still considerably taller than the average man. Which makes it even funnier.

It also shows how high the bar is for elite NBA talent. Pat Bev was an absurd high school player. The fact that he was the best player on pretty much every court he stepped on in his career until college, where he was still really great, and then come to the NBA where he's largely replacement level at best is such a wild step.

That's ignoring the other career turbulence PatBev had, ofc.

Mavs got the win, Lakers lose on Christmas day

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Mavs got the win, Lakers lose on Christmas day

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All I want for Christmas is Wemby.

Merry Pelmas again

Hey y'all! Lakers fan here, I come in peace to ask a question. Would you guys be open to AD returning?

AD for Dyson Daniels + filler (Devonte, Jonas?) + the 2023 pick swap and 2024 pick Lakers owe you.

It's a small ask for AD but I don't think Lakers can ask for more since we got a title out of him. With this trade, the Pelicans go fully into immediate win-now mode, as AD is the perfect Center to have behind Zion and BI. AD gets to redeem himself with the team that drafted him, and hopefully helps to win y'all that first title. The Lakers get to enter full rebuild mode, which is needed there. Win-win-win for everyone. I don't mind the Pelicans and BI wining many titles while Lakers are rebuilding (for at least 3-4 years) because it will simply mean the Celtics aren't winning. :P

The alternative, well, Lakers could trade their 2027 and 2029 picks away to get reinforcements and make the best of Lebron's last years. Lakers won't win another title with Lebron... but it could potentially mean the Pelicans only end up with a pick in the low teens in 2023, a pick in the high teens in 2024, and no titles.

If nothing else, you have to admit the lineup below looks really well balanced and having AD would put y'all over the top as favorites over the Bucks, Celtics, Warriors, Nets, Suns, etc. Some of these teams look shaky right now and it they stay shaky when the playoffs roll around, it could provide the Pelicans with an excellent opportunity to go for it. Example: Middleton has been injured, CP3 is aging quick, Cam Johnson is injured, Kyrie is always likely to implode, Warriors are missing some defensive bench players.

McCollum, Herbert, BI, Zion, AD
+ GTA/Kira, TM3, Naji, Hayes, Nance/Willy

AD never said good bye to his fans in NOLA. That bridge has been burned and they will never reunite. Plus... Keep him and give us a top 5 pick in a loaded draft.

Yeah, nah.

The thing about Brow is beyond his role as a player. Nobody denies that, when healthy and motivated, he's the elite of the elite in the NBA. But that means nothing when it comes to spite. Would you take back a girl who cheated on you just because she was hot? I would hope not.

The other thing - small but worth noting - is that you're saying to us that he's ''the perfect Center'' to match with BI and Zion.

Pels fans told the world for nearly a decade that Ad refused to play C and that when he does his injuries increase because he's physically frail. Nobody believed us. He goes to LA, media crows about him being the perfect C for Lebron and we're telling people that's not the case but nobody listens. We're not going to be fooled with the ''he's a C, really!'' trick on the way back. We know this guy.

I give Orlando a huge chance of winning tonight

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AD never said good bye to his fans in NOLA. That bridge has been burned and they will never reunite. Plus... Keep him and give us a top 5 pick in a loaded draft.

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Well, Lebron never said bye to his fans in Cleveland either. That bridge looked burned too but it worked out really well when he returned. Cleveland won their first title and it might even have ended in a repeat or three-peat had GSW not chickened out and got Kevin Durant. This Pelicans team with AD added to it would be the best roster in the league and much stronger than those Cleveland teams.

That potential top 5 pick could end up being a low lottery pick if Lakers make trades before the deadline. Or you could have AD now and a really good opportunity of winning in the here and now.

AD would never be welcomed back with the way he treated the fans and tanked our season. Still a very good player, but would not be a fit with the culture we have now.

Literally no Pels fans would want AD back under any circumstances.

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Well, Lebron never said bye to his fans in Cleveland either. That bridge looked burned too but it worked out really well when he returned. Cleveland won their first title and it might even have ended in a repeat or three-peat had GSW not chickened out and got Kevin Durant. This Pelicans team with AD added to it would be the best roster in the league and much stronger than those Cleveland teams.

That potential top 5 pick could end up being a low lottery pick if Lakers make trades before the deadline. Or you could have AD now and a really good opportunity of winning in the here and now.

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Great idea.
This team would have BI and AD.
Mr and Mrs Glass.

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I give Orlando a huge chance of winning tonight

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Magic are 3.5 point favorites

Sorry but when it comes to AD "That's All Folks"

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So does Vegas.. they're a 3 point fav.

Yeah AD needs to stay where he?s at. I honestly hold no grudge at all because if he hadn?t done what he did we would have kept him against his wishes and things would have turned very sour regardless. Having said that, he has been a massive tit and the bridge is burned beyond repair. The trade has been a win for both sides. We have a stupidly stacked roster with assets and another potential high lottery pick coming in and the Lakers won their title. Leave the past in the past.

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Well, Lebron never said bye to his fans in Cleveland either. That bridge looked burned too but it worked out really well when he returned. Cleveland won their first title and it might even have ended in a repeat or three-peat had GSW not chickened out and got Kevin Durant. This Pelicans team with AD added to it would be the best roster in the league and much stronger than those Cleveland teams.

That potential top 5 pick could end up being a low lottery pick if Lakers make trades before the deadline. Or you could have AD now and a really good opportunity of winning in the here and now.

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Lebron is beloved in Ohio because he's from Akron. AD's connection to NOLA isn't even close to Lebron's connection to Cleveland. That is a terrible analogy.

Your screen name is LAL1947. Are you a LA Laker fan?

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Lebron is beloved in Ohio because he's from Akron. AD's connection to NOLA isn't even close to Lebron's connection to Cleveland. That is a terrible analogy.

Your screen name is LAL1947. Are you a LA Laker fan?

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Allow me to quote him:

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Hey y'all! Lakers fan here

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Allow me to quote him:

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Ah ha! Missed that. Apologies.

If I were I Laker fan, I'd be trying to pawn AD off on somebody else too!

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Yeah AD needs to stay where he?s at. I honestly hold no grudge at all because if he hadn?t done what he did we would have kept him against his wishes and things would have turned very sour regardless. Having said that, he has been a massive tit and the bridge is burned beyond repair. The trade has been a win for both sides. We have a stupidly stacked roster with assets and another potential high lottery pick coming in and the Lakers won their title. Leave the past in the past.

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You said the trade has been a win for both sides. That's only because the Lakers got a bubble chip. If we win a chip and go to a second conference final in the next 5 seasons, and they spend the next five years in the lottery and play-in wilderness, would there be any question who got the better of the trade? Put it another way: suppose the Lakers had lost in the finals of the bubble chip. Would you still say the trade was a win for both teams?

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You said the trade has been a win for both sides. That's only because the Lakers got a bubble chip. If we win a chip and go to a second conference final in the next 5 seasons, and they spend the next five years in the lottery and play-in wilderness, would there be any question who got the better of the trade? Put it another way: suppose the Lakers had lost in the finals of the bubble chip. Would you still say the trade was a win for both teams?

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Yes. The Lakers would never win a chip if we didn’t part ways with AD. Lebron leaves and they end up running the franchise into the ground per usual. That ship is always worth it. They knew they were on borrowed time.

I hate the Lakers as much as the next guy, but the only outcomes of the trade are:
1. Lakers won the trade; or
2. Both teams won the trade.

The Lakers got AD and immediately won a championship. Feel free to minimize their championship all you want. Call it a Mickey Mouse Ring or a Bubbble Chip or whatever. They got a ring and that's that.

HOWEVER, which path would I want?
Path A: Win a championship in a bubble with no fans and no parade. Then go on to suck with big expectations.
Path B: The path the Pels are on.

Gimme Path B all day.

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I hate the Lakers as much as the next guy, but the only outcomes of the trade are:
1. Lakers won the trade; or
2. Both teams won the trade.

The Lakers got AD and immediately won a championship. Feel free to minimize their championship all you want. Call it a Mickey Mouse Ring or a Bubbble Chip or whatever. They got a ring and that's that.

HOWEVER, which path would I want?
Path A: Win a championship in a bubble with no fans and no parade. Then go on to suck with big expectations.
Path B: The path the Pels are on.

Gimme Path B all day.

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That's my opinion. Lakers sold nearly the entirety of the 2020s in exchange for a ring - they got the ring. Good for them.

We got rid of the guy who demanded out in order to try and own the 2020s. Right now, we're on a good path towards that and the future looks exceptionally bright. I'm very pleased with where we are right now.

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That's my opinion. Lakers sold nearly the entirety of the 2020s in exchange for a ring - they got the ring. Good for them.

We got rid of the guy who demanded out in order to try and own the 2020s. Right now, we're on a good path towards that and the future looks exceptionally bright. I'm very pleased with where we are right now.

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The Lakers truly thought AD would both give them a championship and be the bridge from the LeBron era into the next era. "The Next Great Laker" or some such nonsense. I guess it could happen, but even the most ardent Laker supporter would admit that is highly unlikely.

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That's my opinion. Lakers sold nearly the entirety of the 2020s in exchange for a ring - they got the ring. Good for them.

We got rid of the guy who demanded out in order to try and own the 2020s. Right now, we're on a good path towards that and the future looks exceptionally bright. I'm very pleased with where we are right now.

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They got the ring and none of their fans got to be there to appreciate it. Wonderful outcome for Pels fans. Nice ring for the Lakers organization though

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Yes. The Lakers would never win a chip if we didn’t part ways with AD. Lebron leaves and they end up running the franchise into the ground per usual. That ship is always worth it. They knew they were on borrowed time.

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What I said was, suppose they DIDNT win that chip in 2020. Would you still consider the trade a win win?

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What I said was, suppose they DIDNT win that chip in 2020. Would you still consider the trade a win win?

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This is irrelevant because they won. No what ifs. They won. It is fact. Therefore both teams won the trade. I’m not going to psychoanalyze a scenario that didn’t happen.

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Yes. The Lakers would never win a chip if we didn’t part ways with AD. Lebron leaves and they end up running the franchise into the ground per usual. That ship is always worth it. They knew they were on borrowed time.

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Mortgaging your future for a sterile championship (no fans), a Hall of Famer who runs your team, and for a part time, injury prone all star

vs.

What some say might be the Team of the Decade and who owns rights to all your prime draft picks for the foreseeable future?

I'll take the latter, everyday of the week.

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Mortgaging your future for a sterile championship (no fans), a Hall of Famer who runs your team, and for a part time, injury prone all star

vs.

What some say might be the Team of the Decade and who owns rights to all your prime draft picks for the foreseeable future?

I'll take the latter, everyday of the week.

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THIS

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I hate the Lakers as much as the next guy, but the only outcomes of the trade are:
1. Lakers won the trade; or
2. Both teams won the trade.

The Lakers got AD and immediately won a championship. Feel free to minimize their championship all you want. Call it a Mickey Mouse Ring or a Bubbble Chip or whatever. They got a ring and that's that.

HOWEVER, which path would I want?
Path A: Win a championship in a bubble with no fans and no parade. Then go on to suck with big expectations.
Path B: The path the Pels are on.

Gimme Path B all day.

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There is a massive caveat people seem to want to ignore out of convenience. We are talking about the Lakers here.

If this was the Charlotte Hornets, or even the Clippers, we could stop now and call it a win/win at minimum.

But it's the Lakers. Them winning a bubble title, then get booted out of the 1st round, then fail to even make the playoffs after that is a definite L for that franchise. They did not make that trade just for one covid laced asterik *title.

At this point in time, the Pelicans are winning that trade.

Why are they suddenly winning games now -_-