Thursday August 6: Pelicans vs Kings Bubble Matinee(12:30 PM) Gameday Thread

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Originally Posted by Nichols

Not entirely their fault. Notice how smart coach Pop's teams play? Even when they don't have talent, they play intelligently.

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I’m aware, they also have high I.Q players...it’ll take time but I’m also disappointed in our execution.

Holiday looked away from Zion that entire possession.

Gentry has to go.

The results speak for themselves at this point.

Oh well...

Letting Christian Wood go has been Griffs biggest blunder.

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Originally Posted by Pelifan

Gentry has to go.

The results speak for themselves at this point.

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Yeah because Gentry can't defend the 3... turns the ball over too much, and can't get a rebound.

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Originally Posted by TrellNolaFan

I’m aware, they also have I.Q players...it’ll take time but I’m also disappointed in our execution.

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Same here bro..

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Originally Posted by Pelicanidae

Just an absolute lack of effort. Zero care. Three people looked at that final Cory Joseph shot and all three of them decided not to bother moving towards it.

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Agreed. No help from the refs, but the hustle been ********ty.

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Originally Posted by DroopyDawg

Yeah because Gentry can't defend the 3... turns the ball over too much, and can't get a rebound.

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Ummm... Gentry built this roster and dictates the pace that has been clearly an issue since day one with TO. Sooo yeahhhhh..

Do they miss Jeff Bizdelic (sp?) that much? Serious question.

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Originally Posted by DroopyDawg

Yeah because Gentry can't defend the 3... turns the ball over too much, and can't get a rebound.

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nope, he just coaches the team that fails to do all these (coachable) things.

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Originally Posted by UNO Gracias

Letting Christian Wood go has been Griffs biggest blunder.

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Anything regarding free agent talent acquisition this past offseason as whole been a huge blunder.

How can anyone possibly defend Alvin Gentry. He has no idea how to be a head coach. Rotation is just awful.

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Originally Posted by DroopyDawg

Do they miss Jeff Bizdelic (sp?) that much? Serious question.

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No. They miss Monty Williams or anyone that gets these guys prepared for a game.

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Originally Posted by Funcrusher

nope, he just coaches the team that fails to do all these (coachable) things.

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I mean how can anyone dispute this. Head-scratching.

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Originally Posted by Taker597

Ummm... Gentry built this roster and dictates the pace that has been clearly an issue since day one with TO. Sooo yeahhhhh..

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I'm a players play guy... you guys can blame the coaches if that makes you feel some kind of way but when the ball is tipped the players have to execute. They're not.

Coaches can be blamed for rotations and game planning... but coaches can't turn the ball over. or cut off dribble penetration. Or make teams miss wide open 3s. Or... you get my drift.

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Originally Posted by DroopyDawg

I'm a players play guy... you guys can blame the coaches if that makes you feel some kind of way but when the ball is tipped the players have to execute. They're not.

Coaches can be blamed for rotations and game planning... but coaches can't turn the ball over. or cut off dribble penetration. Or make teams miss wide open 3s. Or... you get my drift.

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So, if Gentry order ******** to go on a salad. It's the cook's fault... Cool bro. For a player guy... It be pretty clear issue that we don't have a balanced roster filled with an overabundance of trash.

Gentry built this small ball positionless teams and the rest of NBA isn't constructed like that. Team defense isn't constructed like that. They tore it to shreds. We broke so many records. Clearly, I can't blame players being put into a position to fail.

Season

Becky Hammond....come on down.

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Originally Posted by Nola3

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Yep.

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Originally Posted by DroopyDawg

I'm a players play guy... you guys can blame the coaches if that makes you feel some kind of way but when the ball is tipped the players have to execute. They're not.

Coaches can be blamed for rotations and game planning... but coaches can't turn the ball over. or cut off dribble penetration. Or make teams miss wide open 3s. Or... you get my drift.

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He’s the one making substitutions that destroy the any ability to play defense. They have to double the post because Melli is at center. Players play but the Pels players are all out of position.

Only shot is to lengthen the game. Get them in the bonus and live at the stripe.

But it's pointless since no one knows how to communicate or defend.

What the **** was that Lonzo

call the season. at this point i hope we lose out to ensure AG is toast. Pace is fine but it can't be free-for-all-ball. turnovers and lack of discipline are insurmountably horrible. AG will ruin this team if he's allowed to continue coaching.

What a TERRIBLE game... Jesus Christ where is the defence? :idoh:

No urgency at all. Yea, Gentry has to go

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Originally Posted by DroopyDawg

I'm a players play guy... you guys can blame the coaches if that makes you feel some kind of way but when the ball is tipped the players have to execute. They're not.

Coaches can be blamed for rotations and game planning... but coaches can't turn the ball over. or cut off dribble penetration. Or make teams miss wide open 3s. Or... you get my drift.

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Yea I mean I agree with this to an extent unless the coach has had a problem with it at every stop he's made. Other than Jrue, this is an entirely different roster. Yet, they play the exact same way. The lack of execution starts at the top. Please give me Darvin Ham this offseason

Well, at least all our players are fresh for the offseason. Glad we didn't bog them down with too many minutes. They might of actually saved our season.

I would respect Gentry forever if he resigned after this game.

See y'all in December

this is the most painful game i've watched from us in some time. just shooting up prayers and letting the Kings do as they please. absolutely putrid.

No excuses at this point. If you can’t motivate your guys when the playoffs are this in reach, there is a problem.

Absolutely disgusting.

No emotion. No leadership. Terrible coaching.

Zions gotta be thinking... where am I going as soon as my contract is up.

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Originally Posted by DroopyDawg

I'm a players play guy... you guys can blame the coaches if that makes you feel some kind of way but when the ball is tipped the players have to execute. They're not.

Coaches can be blamed for rotations and game planning... but coaches can't turn the ball over. or cut off dribble penetration. Or make teams miss wide open 3s. Or... you get my drift.

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Gentry dictates the pace, Gentry dictates the style and he dictates the sets. We continue to play at this pace when we can’t outscore or defend- that is on Gentry hombre

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Originally Posted by HartOfaPelican

Absolutely disgusting.

No emotion. No leadership. Terrible coaching.

Zions gotta be thinking... where am I going as soon as my contract is up.

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If Zion thought like you, he'd be an undrafted free agent.

So your team has gotten blasted out of space twice in the bubble. With playoffs fully within reach.

If there isn't a coaching change when this is over might as well skip next season.

They gave up TWO 40 point quarters btw. Got outcoached by Luke Walton.

Welp, it looks like that's our season. I couldn't watch the game, but saw that Bogdanovic lit it up. Did we have our usual failure in guarding the three point line?

Should of just tanked when they went 6-26... Could of easily had their pick of Onyeka.

Pull an Atlanta Falcon wins games to hurt yourself with a dead end coach.

Antonio Davis hits nail on head...lack of effort and energy

Gentry has to be the worst coach ever, these lineups are terrible. At one point our best rim protector was Melli. What will it take to get this bum out of here??

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Originally Posted by Taker597

Should of just tanked when they went 6-26... Could of easily had their pick of Onyeka.

Pull an Atlanta Falcon wins games to hurt yourself with a dead end coach.

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There's no one worth losing on purpose for in this draft. No one you can't just grab similar a little later on.

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Originally Posted by BIG_CITY_BOI

Gentry has to be the worst coach ever, these lineups are terrible. At one point our best rim protector was Melli. What will it take to get this bum out of here??

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His contract running out, fortunately.

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Originally Posted by Freyfamilyreuni

Welp, it looks like that's our season. I couldn't watch the game, but saw that Bogdanovic lit it up. Did we have our usual failure in guarding the three point line?

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They didnt guard anything. Kings getting layups without a Pelican within 10 feet.

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Originally Posted by As I See It

I would respect Gentry forever if he resigned after this game.

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I hope I never see him anywhere near a Pels facility ever again. The worst coach this team has had since Bower.

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Originally Posted by BIG_CITY_BOI

Gentry has to be the worst coach ever, these lineups are terrible. At one point our best rim protector was Melli. What will it take to get this bum out of here??

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To be fair...we don't have a single rim protector on this team. Favors isn't athletic enough. Hayes is too wild and raw. And Zion's conditioning is so poor he can't expend too much chasing a weakside block. Also, he's a very poor defender at this stage anyway.

End of Game Statlines

Lonzo: 9 points, 2 rebounds, 11 assists, 1 steal, 1 block. 4/7 shooting (57.1%), 1/4 from 3 (25%). 31 minutes
Jrue: 17 points, 5 rebounds, 5 assists, 1 steal, 1 block. 7/10 shooting (70%), 2/4 from 3 (50%). 29 minutes
Ingram: 24 points, 3 rebounds, 3 assists. 8/14 shooting (57.1%), 3/4 from 3 (75%). 34 minutes
Zion: 24 points, 2 rebounds, 2 assists. 10/12 shooting (83.3%). 22 minutes, for some reason.
Favors: 6 points, 4 rebounds, 1 assist. 3/4 shooting. 22 minutes.

Redick 18 points, 1 assist. 6/11 shooting, 5/10 from 3.
Hart: 11 points, 3 rebounds, 3 assists. 4/5 shooting.
Melli: 4 points, 4 rebounds, 2 assists. 2/7 shooting
Frank: 8 points, 1 assist, 1 rebound. 2/5 shooting.
Jaxson: 4 points, 4 rebounds, 2 assist. 1/2 shooting (10 minutes).

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Originally Posted by Eman5805

To be fair...we don't have a single rim protector on this team. Favors isn't athletic enough. Hayes is too wild and raw. And Zion's conditioning is so poor he can't expend too much chasing a weakside block. Also, he's a very poor defender at this stage anyway.

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Just want to note that you can be a good rim protector without being athletic; rim protection is not all highlight blocks. Tim Duncan was a strong rim protector at the age of 30000 because of positioning, length, strength, discipline, and timing. Prior to this season, Favors was an excellent rim protector. Makes you wonder where it's all gone. Was the injury he had early truly that significant and plaguing, or is our system truly so pathetic? Maybe both.

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Originally Posted by Taker597

His contract running out, fortunately.

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They better hope it’s a bubble again then. Who the heck would buy tickets knowing Alvin Gentry is the coach?! They could sign AD back and the fans still have no hope with this coach.

https://mobile.twitter.com/MikeVorku...55961182490625 hmm

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Originally Posted by Pelicanidae

Just want to note that you can be a good rim protector without being athletic; rim protection is not all highlight blocks. Tim Duncan was a strong rim protector at the age of 30000 because of positioning, length, strength, discipline, and timing. Prior to this season, Favors was an excellent rim protector. Makes you wonder where it's all gone. Was the injury he had early truly that significant and plaguing, or is our system truly so pathetic? Maybe both.

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It’s really hard for me to judge any player under Alvin. They are all completely misused.