Free Agency Thread

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Originally Posted by RaisingTheBar

Anyone heard anything about Rudy Gay lately??????

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Yea

Ben Maclemore???

lot of fake twitter accounts posting stuff (e.g kyle lowry to lakers), don't fall for it.

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Originally Posted by ozwego15

lot of fake twitter accounts posting stuff (e.g kyle lowry to lakers), don't fall for it.

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I'll never understand that type of crap like do these people get off on it or what

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Originally Posted by strictfamjay

Ben Maclemore???

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What for?

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Originally Posted by rt0307

everyone... we're interested in everyone

but mostly we're waiting for Jrue to agree to terms with us and how much it'll be for

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As long as we bring back Jrue and find a way to sign Casspi and Korver I'll be happy

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Originally Posted by Sujaguar00

Woj just reported that he's the fall back for GSW if Iguodala walks.


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Iggy is absolutely walking.

Iggy is besties with Jrue. Sucks that we can't figure that out somehow.

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Originally Posted by PortPelican

As long as we bring back Jrue and find a way to sign Casspi and Korver I'll be happy

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Hope you're OK settling for the Holiday brothers and some summer leaguers.

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Originally Posted by Mythrol

Jeff Teague, 3yr/57m 3rd year player option Wolves.

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Which would be a great precedent for the Pels, because what's Holiday's excuse to be asking for 50% more than Teague?

Meeting with the Pels must have been quick https://t.co/otld36FjMr

— Jake Madison (@NOLAJake) July 1, 2017

In deep discussions with Pacers.

How quick did things break down if they're deep in talks? Or are they bluffing?

Wouldn't we know if they're bluffing.

Christ...guess I'm not falling asleep until like 2 am.

Please get Kyle Lowry now! Or George Hill and call it a day! Also, tact on CJ Miles and Ingles for the MLE!

Very odd that Jrue deep in discussions w Pacers. Pels have backup plan just in case?

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Originally Posted by Topdawg26

Please get Kyle Lowry now! Or George Hill and call it a day! Also, tact on CJ Miles and Ingles for the MLE!

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I would rather Jrue over George Hill in every possible scenario.

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Originally Posted by PELICANSFAN

Very odd that Jrue deep in discussions w Pacers. Pels have backup plan just in case?

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Hell yeah! If he doesn't want to be here than Good Bye!

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Originally Posted by PELICANSFAN

Very odd that Jrue deep in discussions w Pacers. Pels have backup plan just in case?

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Yeah. What happened to Jrue not talking to anyone else and waiting 24 hours?

Everything leaked about Jrue has been from his agent and has been BS.

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Originally Posted by Mythrol

I would rather Jrue over George Hill in every possible scenario.

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Not for 30 mil a year!

This is all part of the process. Offer him something, he goes and tests the market and gets a better deal then so be it.

I love Jrue and all but I hope Demps doesn't break the bank for him. We can still offer him more than anyone else without even giving him a max deal. I think he still ends up a with us next year but maybe Indiana will outbid us. If they do then good for you Dell.

Cheap contract good height nice shooter

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Originally Posted by Topdawg26

Not for 30 mil a year!

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Which one is getting 30m in the scenario?

At the very least, he comes back with a deal and sees if we'll match or beat it.

I'm cool with that. Unless this is all a rouse so we'll accept the crazy deal when he signs it. But why would another team play along to help our PR?

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Originally Posted by strictfamjay

Cheap contract good height nice shooter

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Who are you talking about?

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Originally Posted by Eman5805

At the very least, he comes back with a deal and sees if we'll match or beat it.

I'm cool with that. Unless this is all a rouse so we'll accept the crazy deal when he signs it. But why would another team play along to help our PR?

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They wouldn't unless they were specifically trying to hurt the Pelicans. But seriously. There are bigger fish to fry for the Pacers than spend time trying to jerk around Pelicans management.

This is all Jrue's agent doing everything he can to try make Pelicans blink. "deep in talks" is probably truthfully, "Jrue returned a missed call."

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Originally Posted by Eman5805

At the very least, he comes back with a deal and sees if we'll match or beat it.

I'm cool with that. Unless this is all a rouse so we'll accept the crazy deal when he signs it. But why would another team play along to help our PR?

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I think you nailed it in your first sentence here. All of that goodwill we built with Jrue maybe comes down to him giving us a chance to match. Seriously, let him go and get some offers and then when he comes back match it and give him a 5th year. Let him set his market but tell him we will match anything and add the extra year nobody else can. Unless someone offers him something crazy of course.

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Originally Posted by P_B_&_G

I think you nailed it in your first sentence here. All of that goodwill we built with Jrue maybe comes down to him giving us a chance to match. Seriously, let him go and get some offers and then when he comes back match it and give him a 5th year. Let him set his market but tell him we will match anything and add the extra year nobody else can. Unless someone offers him something crazy of course.

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That's not a terrible plan if it's at all how things are actually happening.

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Originally Posted by Mythrol

That's not a terrible plan if it's at all how things are actually happening.

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We can only hope.

Or stretch Asik and sign Lowry!

Looking at the 2018-2019 salary cap, we have $68 MIL on the cap. Including Boogie, how much cap space will we have then? I ask because, say we pass on Jrue, and go with cheap talent across the board for next season, say Boogie and AD are able to recruit their friends to join them in New Orleans. How much cap space will we have to spend on those friends?

We have 63 million tied up for next year as of now without Boogie. http://hoopshype.com/salaries/new_orleans_pelicans/
would need to know what the cheap contracts are but that figure also includes Ajinca and Asik.

Yeah, I wonder because...if we don't sign Jrue, but that opens us up cap wise to sign a legit big 3 member next season...then I can wait. Aint no way he is getting $22+ MIL from us.

No way Jrue gets paid more than AD. None.

Shouldn't anyway.

Wall if John Wall was mulling his extension to negotiate a trade to the Pels ? Maybe he will Paul George/Chris Paul the Wizards and tell them I'm going there next year, trade me here now and you get a 1st and some contracts back.

And then we resign Holiday.

Free agent forward Rudy Gay has four team visits set up through the 4th of July, a source said.

— Marc J. Spears (@MarcJSpearsESPN) July 1, 2017

I agree with fat boy on espn, we're stuck. Draft produces little for us. Little cap room. Wasting $$$ on Jrue only keeps us from getting worse. I see Boogie leaving next summer as no way this is a playoff roster.

So I trade Boogie now or at the deadline.

You trade Cousins you might as well blow it up and move AD too. No way he's staying if we dump Cousins.

In Sac all Boogie talked about was needing to win. He's dying to get into the playoffs and go deep. Thats where so much of his frustration comes from, losing yr after yr after yr. But he's no spring chicken anymore, he turns 27 before the season tips. This is his prime. No way after getting screwed signing his last ext does he sign one here and risk his prime if we're not in the playoffs.

But a star PG/SG/SF would fit better with AD given our sad excuse for a coach and limited options. Homies gotta be real, this roster won't make the playoffs w/ this coach and we have now and Feb to get anything for Boogie or he walks.

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Originally Posted by SilkySlim

I agree with fat boy on espn, we're stuck. Draft produces little for us. Little cap room. Wasting $$$ on Jrue only keeps us from getting worse. I see Boogie leaving next summer as no way this is a playoff roster.

So I trade Boogie now or at the deadline.

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So you're saying we trade for Boogie last year and then dump him before we even see how he and AD play together after an offseason together? Makes absolutely no sense whatsoever.

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Originally Posted by PELICANSFAN

So you're saying we trade for Boogie last year and then dump him before we even see how he and AD play together after an offseason together? Makes absolutely no sense whatsoever.

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So you're saying play Boogie with a terrible roster & terrible coach in the last yr of his deal & get nothing for him as this roster doesn't make the playoffs in a stacked west, so we're then left with AD and nothing, because we traded for him a few months ago? Great argument.

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Originally Posted by SilkySlim

So you're saying play Boogie with a terrible roster & terrible coach in the last yr of his deal & get nothing for him as this roster doesn't make the playoffs in a stacked west, so we're then left with AD and nothing, because we traded for him a few months ago? Great argument.

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There is no market to trade Boogie as an expiring anyway, see Paul George... this is no NBA 2k.

@sam_amick reporting on Twitter. After meeting tonight, Holiday has NO DEAL yet and will continue tomorrow.

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Originally Posted by SilkySlim

So you're saying play Boogie with a terrible roster & terrible coach in the last yr of his deal & get nothing for him as this roster doesn't make the playoffs in a stacked west, so we're then left with AD and nothing, because we traded for him a few months ago? Great argument.

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The West is stacked at the top, but the vulnerable teams at the bottom are even moreso now.

Warriors of course
Spurs will be back, although LMA rocking the boat may slow them.
Houston of course made the big play
OKC makes the big play
and then Minny said screw it, we're not leaving this to chance, and went all in

ok, so big Big 4, then aggressive Minny moves

but Jazz so far mostly spinning wheels, and obviously could get really hurt by Hayward. Keep him, they are #6

Denver...poked around a bit, but right now are no better
Portland really has no chance to be better
Memphis is in trouble, stuck, aging, Zach may be leaving etc.
Clippers are in trouble. Got back plenty of players, but lost CP3 and likely Reddick, and feel like they are shaking things up.
Pels 2 more superstars

Phoenix, Lakers, Sacramento and Dallas look to be solidly out before things even begin.


So yeah, Top 4 is really tough, but #5 and #6 are not impossible hurdles, and #7 and #8 figure to be a donnybrook. There's room for a good team to make it as always.

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Originally Posted by Delko

Wall if John Wall was mulling his extension to negotiate a trade to the Pels ? Maybe he will Paul George/Chris Paul the Wizards and tell them I'm going there next year, trade me here now and you get a 1st and some contracts back.

And then we resign Holiday.

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Thats what I am thinking. The Wiz have offered him a max, and he is mulling it over. Seems like something is going on there. I would gladly take not paying Jrue if it helped pave the way for Wall next off-season.

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Originally Posted by UNO Gracias

Thats what I am thinking. The Wiz have offered him a max, and he is mulling it over. Seems like something is going on there. I would gladly take not paying Jrue if it helped pave the way for Wall next off-season.

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Unfortunately I double checked and he still has 2 years and will be FA in 2019 only. So it is nothing but a dream I'm afraid.

Even though Wall has two more years left on his contract, if he doesn't sign the contract Washington had offered him anytime this season, then he becomes a Paul George.

Who knows, maybe Pels are doing a sign and trade for Wall after/if Jrue signs? Jrue, 1st and 2nd, and Hill?

OKC management is doing a great job second year in a row. Their last year deal made Orlando GM lose his job. This year deal is no different IMO and should make Pacers GM lose his job

Mills got 50mil for 4 years. Great deal for SA
http://www.espn.com/espn/now?nowId=2...529475319402-4

Free agent guard Jrue Holiday has reached agreement on 5-year, $126M deal to stay with New Orleans, agent Jason Glushon tells ESPN.

— Adrian Wojnarowski (@wojespn) July 1, 2017

Darren Wolfson: As Taylor said on podcast, backup PG is a want. Ty Lawson is one #Twolves have called on. So have Pelicans, OKC, Kings. Secondary priority. – via Twitter DWolfsonKSTP

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Originally Posted by SilkySlim

So you're saying play Boogie with a terrible roster & terrible coach in the last yr of his deal & get nothing for him as this roster doesn't make the playoffs in a stacked west, so we're then left with AD and nothing, because we traded for him a few months ago? Great argument.

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You're assuming that Dell Demps thinks 1) we have a terrible coach, 2) we have a terrible roster, and 3) we can't make the playoffs.

Why the hell would he not even see what this team can do before blowing it up? That's not an argument, that's asinine. Plus, the only thing that's happened so far is the T'Wolves became a better team. Other playoff teams are still playoff teams. And the Clippers just became a lottery team unless they have some great move up their sleeves. The Blazers were a .500 ball club and there's evidence that the lineup of AD, Cousins, and Jrue can be a pretty good one, albeit in a small sample size.

Lost in everything is that Jrue Holiday is not a bad player. A great deal inconsistent, but not a bad player. I can't consider a team with AD and Cousins a terrible roster any way.

That's the problem with Jrue. Saying he's not a bad player is the best thing we can say. He's basically been an above average player overall getting paid like an elite PG. And yes, we have an average roster, bad coach, and a bad GM.


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