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Pheonix are gonna be 3-5
Utah will be 4-4
Minnesotah will be 4-4
Portland are 4-5
The Mavs are 4-4
Denver are 4-4
MEMPHIS ARE 3-6

We are 1-7.

thats 8 games.

Theres no reason to believe any of those teams win more than 45 games. and to make the playoffs we can lose to one of them.

Lets call that Utah.

So after the first 17 games, we have the 2nd easiest schedule in the nba.

If we go 5-12 after the first 17 games, we just need to go 40-25 to have a good chance at making the playoffs.

thats exactly 50 win pace.

Considering we won 45 games last year, in a much harder schedule...

Also, last year Erman took `10 games for his "system" to get settled.

in those first 10 games, they were much worse than us on defense.

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Is that a real person?

Anyone else watching the Wolves vs Warriors. The Wolves are young like us too, but do they have some spectacular talent across the board. I was hesitant to allow myself to think it before, but these guys will be in a fight to the finish for one of those final two playoff spots.

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Anyone else watching the Wolves vs Warriors. The Wolves are young like us too, but do they have some spectacular talent across the board. I was hesitant to allow myself to think it before, but these guys will be in a fight to the finish for one of those final two playoff spots.

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Had a blast watching that game. As a Pels fan I'm terrified of them for the next decade, but as a basketball fan I can't wait to see what they look like in their primes.

#clipperstanking

We may have competition now.

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Had a blast watching that game. As a Pels fan I'm terrified of them for the next decade, but as a basketball fan I can't wait to see what they look like in their primes.

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Speaks to the value of building through the draft. Like OKC before them, they are poised to become a force in the league for the foreseeable future.

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Speaks to the value of building through the draft. Like OKC before them, they are poised to become a force in the league for the foreseeable future.

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I know you and I are on record about this.... oh well, too late now

And don't forget, Sam Mitchell was once the coach of the year, so it's not like they have some slouch on the bench.

Nice mix of vets (KG, Miller, Martin, Prince), and youth (Wiggins, Towns, Rubio, Dieng, Levine, Pek).

If the Twolves find another big man who is solid to play next to Towns they will be dominant in a couple of years. Lavine has the potential to be an allstar and at times looks like it. I think he will be a very good all around 2 guard in a couple of years when he gets a more consistent shot. Wiggins is still growing into his body and will soon be one of the top SFs while Towns has shown to be worth every bit of the hype he got. That team will be a force to deal with for a long time which is another reason being in the East would be great haha.

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Speaks to the value of building through the draft. Like OKC before them, they are poised to become a force in the league for the foreseeable future.

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Eh I think Twolves are more the "recovery from losing their super star" model. Love got them Wiggins (who was drafted by the cavs) and allowed them to be the dumpster fire that landed Towns. Dieng was a very solid piece, Shabazz has turned his career around nicely avoiding that bust label. If Rubio can stay healthy and Lavine can really grow (cause I think he is still super raw) they should have a pretty nice squad going forward.

That Clippers tank job tonight was more epic than any of our tank jobs. The race for Simmons is on.

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That Clippers tank job tonight was more epic than any of our tank jobs. The race for Simmons is on.

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He's so good, even the good teams are tanking for him.

About the T'Wolves, they have built something special. It's probably too early to call them a playoff contender this season, just like it's too early to say we're not a playoff contender this season, but I think they're building something special there. They took the slow approach and it paid off. They moved on from Love and got a future star SF in Wiggins. They land the number one pick and got a future star PF in Towns. The two of them could be the best 1-2 punch in the league, five years from now. They're both so athletic and raw. To see what they're doing now, it's scary to think of what they could be when those two hit their prime. Rubio should be good for a long time, since his game isn't predicated on athleticism. The three of them could make one heck of a big 3. Levine has scary potential and Bazz has turned into a decent player for them.

I really wish we had taken this approach as well. I know it doesn't work out all that often, as there are plenty of teams in the lottery year after year. When a team is patient though, and draft the right guys, that's how you build something special. I really hope we hold onto our pick this year. If this team is fully healthy, I don't think we're a lottery team. But with the way the injury bug has been biting us this year, I really doubt there's any long stretch of the season where we are fully healthy and able to make a run. I hope we hold onto our picks and just see how things play out. If we get healthy and start winning games, then great. But if not, the chance of us landing any big name FA aren't that great, so I hope we hold onto our pick and see if lady luck and the ping pong balls are on our our side. It happened once with AD, it can happen again. AD and Simmons would be a better pairing than Wiggins and Towns, in my opinion. That would be the beginning of something really special. We already landed a top 5 player in the league, I'd like to see us get another atleast top 15-20 guy to pair with him. Right now, we don't have that and I think you need that to compete for championships, year after year.

Are you guys serious 35 wins might make the playoffs

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PEOPLE

Pheonix are gonna be 3-5
Utah will be 4-4
Minnesotah will be 4-4
Portland are 4-5
The Mavs are 4-4
Denver are 4-4
MEMPHIS ARE 3-6

We are 1-7.

thats 8 games.

Theres no reason to believe any of those teams win more than 45 games. and to make the playoffs we can lose to one of them.

Lets call that Utah.

So after the first 17 games, we have the 2nd easiest schedule in the nba.

If we go 5-12 after the first 17 games, we just need to go 40-25 to have a good chance at making the playoffs.

thats exactly 50 win pace.

Considering we won 45 games last year, in a much harder schedule...

Also, last year Erman took `10 games for his "system" to get settled.

in those first 10 games, they were much worse than us on defense.

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Your standings are completely wrong. Next if you are so confident would you bet it?

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About the T'Wolves, they have built something special. It's probably too early to call them a playoff contender this season, just like it's too early to say we're not a playoff contender this season, but I think they're building something special there. They took the slow approach and it paid off. They moved on from Love and got a future star SF in Wiggins. They land the number one pick and got a future star PF in Towns. The two of them could be the best 1-2 punch in the league, five years from now. They're both so athletic and raw. To see what they're doing now, it's scary to think of what they could be when those two hit their prime. Rubio should be good for a long time, since his game isn't predicated on athleticism. The three of them could make one heck of a big 3. Levine has scary potential and Bazz has turned into a decent player for them.

I really wish we had taken this approach as well. I know it doesn't work out all that often, as there are plenty of teams in the lottery year after year. When a team is patient though, and draft the right guys, that's how you build something special. I really hope we hold onto our pick this year. If this team is fully healthy, I don't think we're a lottery team. But with the way the injury bug has been biting us this year, I really doubt there's any long stretch of the season where we are fully healthy and able to make a run. I hope we hold onto our picks and just see how things play out. If we get healthy and start winning games, then great. But if not, the chance of us landing any big name FA aren't that great, so I hope we hold onto our pick and see if lady luck and the ping pong balls are on our our side. It happened once with AD, it can happen again. AD and Simmons would be a better pairing than Wiggins and Towns, in my opinion. That would be the beginning of something really special. We already landed a top 5 player in the league, I'd like to see us get another atleast top 15-20 guy to pair with him. Right now, we don't have that and I think you need that to compete for championships, year after year.

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Totally man, but 1-2 punch possibly ever. They could be the next Griffin and Gordon. Or Oden and Roy. Or Carter and Tmac. Or Horford and Smith and Marv. Or Kyrie and Waiters. Or Love and Williams. Because if there's one thing I know about basketball, it's that things always work out exactly as expected.

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Totally man, but 1-2 punch possibly ever. They could be the next Griffin and Gordon. Or Oden and Roy. Or Carter and Tmac. Or Horford and Smith and Marv. Or Kyrie and Waiters. Or Love and Williams. Because if there's one thing I know about basketball, it's that things always work out exactly as expected.

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Uhh, Kobe and Shaq will take a hell of a lot of beating.

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Uhh, Kobe and Shaq will take a hell of a lot of beating.

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They got nothin on Tom Chambers and Thunder Dan

Tom Guggliata and Juwan "The Rock of Gibraltar" Howard

are we about to be 1-9? lol, say we get the 2nd or 3rd overall pick in the draft, would y'all trade that pick, and next year's 1st to get the #1 and take Simmons, or just take someone like Ingram? Personally i'd trade it, because with this team healthy, plus all the money in free agency, and Simmons, we would be a top 5 team.

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are we about to be 1-9? lol, say we get the 3rd overall pick in the draft, would y'all trade that pick, and next year's 1st to get the #1 and take Simmons, or just take someone like Ingram? Personally i'd trade it, because with this team healthy, plus all the money in free agency, and Simmons, we would be a top 5 team.

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Do you take the risk of a rookie, or trade for Boogie or some other malcontent AS?

Anyone else think it's crazy to talk tank?

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Originally Posted by Billy King

Anyone else think it's crazy to talk tank?

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This early in the season? Nope.

People have just as much reason to talk as they do talking playoffs, we are just as likely to do one as the other.

This season is over. The team is not competitive and they are not learning. We are basically spinning our wheels trying to bide time until the Calvary comes. The problem with that is the team will have to play nearly perfect to make any kind of run if they ever get healthy. It's not worth it. Trade the guys you know are not coming back. Try to get as young as possible and give those they guys the rest of the season to be evaluated and the time to learn what Gentry and Erman what to do. The writing is on the wall.


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Do you take the risk of a rookie, or trade for Boogie or some other malcontent AS?

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Nope. Team is too soft to bring in a guy like that. You have a coach that has a system that can work with the right players. Go get those players. Even if they are not finished products. You have 70 games to give them a look and you'll probably get a top 10 pick out of the deal. One year of patience could be worth more than any quick fix.


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Originally Posted by HornetGuru

are we about to be 1-9? lol, say we get the 2nd or 3rd overall pick in the draft, would y'all trade that pick, and next year's 1st to get the #1 and take Simmons, or just take someone like Ingram? Personally i'd trade it, because with this team healthy, plus all the money in free agency, and Simmons, we would be a top 5 team.

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In a heartbeat. But are teams allowed to trade consecutive first rounders? I thought there was a rule against that.

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Do you take the risk of a rookie, or trade for Boogie or some other malcontent AS?

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Knowing Dell, the latter.

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Your standings are completely wrong. Next if you are so confident would you bet it?

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I would bet on it in a heartbeat.

The mags are now 5-4
Nuggets are 4-4
Suns are 4-4
Jazz are 4-5
Blazers are 4-6
Wolves are 4-5
Grizzlies are 4-6

I got the Suns wrong, that's about it.

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In a heartbeat. But are teams allowed to trade consecutive first rounders? I thought there was a rule against that.

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You have to have a first rounder by the time of the draft every other year. It doesn't have to be your own. So, you could do pick swaps or acquire a first round pick from another team.

It is known as the Stepien rule.

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You have to have a first rounder by the time of the draft every other year. It doesn't have to be your own. So, you could do pick swaps or acquire a first round pick from another team.

It is known as the Stepien rule.

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Ahh, I see. Thanks for clarifying.

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You have to have a first rounder by the time of the draft every other year. It doesn't have to be your own. So, you could do pick swaps or acquire a first round pick from another team.

It is known as the Stepien rule.

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We haven't had a first round ick for 3 years doe?

We clarify this rule every three months. You cannot OWE consecutive picks. You trade the 2016 pick today. You can't not trade the 2017 pick before that 2016 selection is made and the trade fullfilled. It's a simple rule.


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This season is over. The team is not competitive and they are not learning. We are basically spinning our wheels trying to bide time until the Calvary comes. The problem with that is the team will have to play nearly perfect to make any kind of run if they ever get healthy. It's not worth it. Trade the guys you know are not coming back. Try to get as young as possible and give those they guys the rest of the season to be evaluated and the time to learn what Gentry and Erman what to do. The writing is on the wall.


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Conspiracy theory: we are shamelessly tanking in an attempt to use this draft pick as a sign and trade chip for Kevin Durant. Durant feels good about netting his team something, and we have a way to clear some cap space for him.

I wouldn't tank with just about the best player on your team in the league. We have a great team when healthy. Despite that we have to make changes because we can't stay healthy. Tanking is bad.

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I wouldn't tank with just about the best player on your team in the league. We have a great team when healthy. Despite that we have to make changes because we can't stay healthy. Tanking is bad.

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Potato, potatoe. You can call it "making changes", I'll call it tanking, in business they call it "restructuring". All the same. [emoji3][emoji3]


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Conspiracy theory: we are shamelessly tanking in an attempt to use this draft pick as a sign and trade chip for Kevin Durant. Durant feels good about netting his team something, and we have a way to clear some cap space for him.

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That is why we got Jimmer. KD loves Jimmer. Should be also worth noting we don't need to trade for Durant. Durant becomes free agent at the end of the season.

Got Durant in the offseason during NBA 2K16 for the helluvit, then didn't give a damn what we did otherwise. I did notice that for some reason Alvin Gentry promptly retired, hired Brad Stevens.

Started the season and saw we signed Hassan Whiteside, Tony Wroten, and Quincy Acy.

Team was in the middle of a 20 game winning streak at like 34-5 near the halfway point of the season.

My GOD, the NBA would not want something like that to happen.

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Got Durant in the offseason during NBA 2K16 for the helluvit, then didn't give a damn what we did otherwise. I did notice that for some reason Alvin Gentry promptly retired, hired Brad Stevens.

Started the season and saw we signed Hassan Whiteside, Tony Wroten, and Quincy Acy.

Team was in the middle of a 20 game winning streak at like 34-5 near the halfway point of the season.

My GOD, the NBA would not want something like that to happen.

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Yea maybe they could time their injuries throughout the season so that we have at least one superstar available to play at a time.
And then they could both get healthy for the playoffs.

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That is why we got Jimmer. KD loves Jimmer. Should be also worth noting we don't need to trade for Durant. Durant becomes free agent at the end of the season.

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KD loved Jimmer in 2011

That's almost 5 years ago now

A lot can happen in 5 years

I'd take Brandon Ingram without a 2nd thought if we had a pick 2-10

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I'd take Brandon Ingram without a 2nd thought if we had a pick 2-10

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Who dat?

I don't know if Durant would be a better option than some of those draft picks. I don't think Simmons will go with the first pick, but if tanking meant him or someone as good as him I'd do it.

But it doesn't. No way to get a top player via that rout. Even if we try, we will get a decent pick and player

I don't know if Durant would be a better option than some of those draft picks. I don't think Simmons will go with the first pick, but if tanking meant him or someone as good as him I'd do it.

But it doesn't. No way to get a top player via that rout. Even if we try, we will get a decent pick and player.

Forkan Korkmaz 6'7" SG could be our Ginobili
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Brandon Ingram could be our Durant
Ben Simmons our Magic Johnson

some of you guys mentioned Nigel Hayes. Hell yeah.

I personally believe that we have already done enough damage, and Davis should have been playing with young talent all the while

Plus, it's not nec essary to be paying millions to everyone on our roster. Rookie contracts are a good thing and with the right pick we get to spend our money elsewhere for two or three years

Simmons is a near lock to be the 1st pick. They have some other very talented players as well like Skal and Ingram who with a ridiculous season could steal the 1st pick but even if they play better the potential that Simmons has is what will intrigue teams. I pray someone plays him out of the 1st pick if we are anywhere near that. I watch a lot of college basketball and even though it was one game I don't think I have seen anyone with that full skill set and impact on a game without scoring it's incredible. He is the 1st pick as of now on just about everyone's list but so was Drummond at one point and a lot can change but I don't see that happening. I think Skal is the only player that gives him a run for his $.

Curious to see the narrative after wins against NYK and DEN...
And the information about Reke's return.
Hopefully this thread will die and never again return.

Simmons is going #1 for sho

http://www.pelicansreport.com/showth...iers-2015-2016 I want my thread credited with all these posts. :confused:

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Curious to see the narrative after wins against NYK and DEN...
And the information about Reke's return.
Hopefully this thread will die and never again return.

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