New Orleans Pelicans MLE Tournament

As someone who turns 29 in less than a month this thread makes me sad.

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Originally Posted by Mythrol

As someone who turns 29 in less than a month this thread makes me sad.

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tell it to the guy who is 32.

And I understand the difference between real life old and NBA old, but there is so much evidence of 30+ year olds killing it in the NBA. I mean, our new champ has Diaw, Parker, Manu, and Parker all over 30. Some WAY over 30.

Nothing to be afraid of people.

New champ? Don't count the Heat out yet. They can still...

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Yeah, I got nothin'.

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Originally Posted by Eman5805

New champ? Don't count the Heat out yet. They can still...

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Yeah, I got nothin'.

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I'll never be able to understand how in a series between the same 2 teams 1 year apart, Boris Diaw turns into slow magic johnson and Mario Chalmers gets Space Jam'd

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Originally Posted by MichaelMcNamara

tell it to the guy who is 32.

And I understand the difference between real life old and NBA old, but there is so much evidence of 30+ year olds killing it in the NBA. I mean, our new champ has Diaw, Parker, Manu, and Parker all over 30. Some WAY over 30.

Nothing to be afraid of people.

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Anytime someone says they don't want a 29/30 year old I wonder if they'd want LBJ this summer.

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I have truly enjoyed reading BSS MLE tourney match up articles and have voted on each. I enjoy reading about these players that we do not always look at so deeply and how they might fit with the Pels.

That said todays write up on Kris Humphries was worthless. I wanted to read about what he can do on the court instead only got what happened in court. Humphries is not a bad player, not great, but a decent NBA player who had nothing written about his game because the writer was to lazy to do research and instead focused on his former circus of a life.

As silly as I found the article I still found myself voting for Humphries, why?, well if all that matters is he was with Kim, then that is good enough for me, it seemed to work for Reggie and the Saints. How can Hamilton beat that?

I voted for Humphries too, because of what I knew of him and Hamilton already before the article. Think he could be Jason Smith with health and incredible rebounding.

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Originally Posted by Mythrol

Anytime someone says they don't want a 29/30 year old I wonder if they'd want LBJ this summer.

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Or Darko Milicic.

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Originally Posted by Mythrol

Anytime someone says they don't want a 29/30 year old I wonder if they'd want LBJ this summer.

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In before...

"Lebron would be too old by the time AD hits his prime."

for players who rely on athleticism like gerald wallace 28-29 would be towards the end of his career. A player like tucker who relies on his strength, jumpshot and defensive technique and length it shouldn't bother him.

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Originally Posted by MichaelMcNamara

In before...

"Lebron would be too old by the time AD hits his prime."

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Or

In before....

"We don't have the cap space."

While my Darko Example is weak, LBJ and your typical 29/30 year old are night and day different. Lebron could walk out of the NBA right now and go play wr for the Dolphins and not miss a beat. Lebron is a different kind of person.

I'm hearing there is mutual interest between the New Orleans Pelicans and free-agent-to-be Andray Blatche. Keep an eye on that after July 1.

— Alex Kennedy (@AlexKennedyNBA) June 13, 2014

just felt like dropping this here, nothing new

The world I live in where a dude with no back beat out Ariza makes me sad. I want a recount. . .

Isn't it pretty well known that Ariza wanted out of here in a bad way because he doesn't like Monty?

To be honest, Schwan's piece on sefolosha was unimpressive. Had to go with jefferson judging simply by what i read there...yes he may not be a good defender, but right now, we can get a below average defender as long as he can shoot and keeps teams honest imo. Sefolosha may be the best defender among the two but he's not really a lockdown defender and even if he reverts to his old self, i'd rather give a 1 year deal than a 3 year one...especially if there's a good chance sefolosha's game gets worse.

I took Jefferson too, though I do think there is a chance Sefolosha has a bounce back year if he goes to a team that involves him a little more. I think it was a confidence thing for him by the end there. But if those are the contracts it will take, I would chose Jefferson too

Just an update on Swaggy P:

Nick Young wants multi-year deal with Lakers; willing to take hometown discount

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“It depends how much the discount is,” Young said. “But as a player, everyone wants a place they feel comfortable at. I feel comfortable in L.A. But I can’t keep taking these discounts. I need a raise a little bit. But if it’s for the right cost and they’re bringing in players and I fit into the rotation, then I’ll probably take a pay cut.”

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Doesn't mean we can't still get him, but not exactly encouraging either.

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Originally Posted by SeaLegs

Just an update on Swaggy P:

Nick Young wants multi-year deal with Lakers; willing to take hometown discount


Doesn't mean we can't still get him, but not exactly encouraging either.

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You won't find many articles this time of year that have a player saying they want to leave or that the team doesn't want to sign them, yet 60-100 guys switch teams every summer. Morrow is saying he wants to stay and we are saying we want to try to keep him. Phoenix is saying the same with Tucker and Bledsoe, and on and on and on. You can find articles from last summer with Tyreke and the Kings saying the same thing.

Par for the course. When July 1st hits, money talks.

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Originally Posted by Kurgan

To be honest, Schwan's piece on sefolosha was unimpressive. Had to go with jefferson judging simply by what i read there...yes he may not be a good defender, but right now, we can get a below average defender as long as he can shoot and keeps teams honest imo. Sefolosha may be the best defender among the two but he's not really a lockdown defender and even if he reverts to his old self, i'd rather give a 1 year deal than a 3 year one...especially if there's a good chance sefolosha's game gets worse.

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I voted Jefferson too, but what I really wanted to choose was neither!

Going with blatche...personally, i don't think we need yet another pf right now. Maybe davis will really play more center than pf with time, but it won't be overnight and in any case, i'd rather have someone who actually can defender Cs at his side

Mason won me over with Hill which was quite shocking. Then I checked his measurements. Dude is just under 6'11" and has a 7'1.25" wingspan. He also has a standing reach of 9'. If anyone wanted Vonleh then I don't see why they wouldn't want Hill. He's actually taller, has more weight, they have identical standing reaches. He can obviously play either position and would be cheaper.

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Originally Posted by Mythrol

Mason won me over with Hill which was quite shocking. Then I checked his measurements. Dude is just under 6'11" and has a 7'1.25" wingspan. He also has a standing reach of 9'. If anyone wanted Vonleh then I don't see why they wouldn't want Hill. He's actually taller, has more weight, they have identical standing reaches. He can obviously play either position and would be cheaper.

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Measueables arent the be all end all, though. Yes, it helps, but Elton Brand defends centers better than guys with longer reach, more height, etc.

Yes, Hill should be able to cover centers on paper, but he can't. He is awful at it. If you have Synergy, go watch for yourself. And if he cant do it by now, I cant believe he will suddenly learn.

I love Hill and I would sign him, but that is because I am fine with AD covering centers. If Dell and Monty want a guy to defend centers in the post, Hill has shown he cant do that

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Originally Posted by Mythrol

Mason won me over with Hill which was quite shocking. Then I checked his measurements. Dude is just under 6'11" and has a 7'1.25" wingspan. He also has a standing reach of 9'. If anyone wanted Vonleh then I don't see why they wouldn't want Hill. He's actually taller, has more weight, they have identical standing reaches. He can obviously play either position and would be cheaper.

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Does Hill have the shooting touch of Vonleh?

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Originally Posted by MichaelMcNamara

Measueables arent the be all end all, though. Yes, it helps, but Elton Brand defends centers better than guys with longer reach, more height, etc.

Yes, Hill should be able to cover centers on paper, but he can't. He is awful at it. If you have Synergy, go watch for yourself. And if he cant do it by now, I cant believe he will suddenly learn.

I love Hill and I would sign him, but that is because I am fine with AD covering centers. If Dell and Monty want a guy to defend centers in the post, Hill has shown he cant do that

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I don't care as much about him at the rim because I see AD as a center. I want Hill because he is super efficient and eats up defensive rebounds and blocks. Mason also pointed out his P&R defense is really good which if I remember correctly was 2nd on your most wanted list this summer.

My question is, is Hill worse than Withey/Ajinca/Smith at guarding centers and if so by how much? If he's 10% worse I don't really care because he gives you so much more rebounding and offensive efficiency.

I really want Hill for two reasons, 1) let him take the beating for AD for the next couple years and 2) rebound the ball / hustle on offense. If he can do that for 4m/yr I'm fine with it. When you just straight up compare Blatche to Hill it's hard to make the argument for Blatche unless he's just so much better defensive which I'm not sure.

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Originally Posted by BallSoHard

Does Hill have the shooting touch of Vonleh?

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I haven't watched a ton of Vonleh so I won't speak to how he compares to him. What I can say is Hill is very efficient within 10ft and shows a touch out to 16ft where he wasn't awful (about average). However he knows where his bread is buttered and sticks within 10ft for the most part. His FT % is the main thing that keeps his Efficiency down a bit because he only shoots about 65%. He's a big who hustles and comes up with rebounds. He'd instantly upon arrival challenge AD as the best rebounder on the team and might actually be better at this time.

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Originally Posted by Mythrol

I haven't watched a ton of Vonleh so I won't speak to how he compares to him. What I can say is Hill is very efficient within 10ft and shows a touch out to 16ft where he wasn't awful (about average). However he knows where his bread is buttered and sticks within 10ft for the most part. His FT % is the main thing that keeps his Efficiency down a bit because he only shoots about 65%. He's a big who hustles and comes up with rebounds. He'd instantly upon arrival challenge AD as the best rebounder on the team and might actually be better at this time.

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I think Vonleh has some very good potential. He's got a silky smooth touch. He reminds me of Raptors' Bosh.

Well the semi finals ended exactly how I thought they would (not exactly how I voted though). Next round for me is Blatche and Tucker.

so who made the final 4?

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Originally Posted by Mythrol

Well the semi finals ended exactly how I thought they would (not exactly how I voted though). Next round for me is Blatche and Tucker.

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I was shocked that Seraphin beat Okafor. I though Mek was gonna blow him out.

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Originally Posted by HornetGuru

so who made the final 4?

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Originally Posted by Mythrol

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Thanks, its gonna come down to blatche and tucker, and if ryno is on the team still i think tucker wins, if ryno is moved for a sf blatche wins. In real life that is.

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Originally Posted by MichaelMcNamara

I was shocked that Seraphin beat Okafor. I though Mek was gonna blow him out.

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I think the injury scared some votes off. If I remember right I think I voted for Seraphin.

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Originally Posted by HornetGuru

Thanks, its gonna come down to blatche and tucker, and if ryno is on the team still i think tucker wins, if ryno is moved for a sf blatche wins. In real life that is.

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If Ryno is moved I think we will be looking at bringing in someone that we haven't thought was an option before. Ryno being traded would change so much based on what we got back that I think it's very hard to say who else we'd bring in.

I voted for Seraphin.

Those who voted for Seraphin, tell me what you liked so I can emphasize it more. I feel like he will get destroyed by Blatche next week!

Personally, i voted for okafor blatche tucker and jefferson. I hope blatche and tucker will make it to the final

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Originally Posted by MichaelMcNamara

Those who voted for Seraphin, tell me what you liked so I can emphasize it more. I feel like he will get destroyed by Blatche next week!

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I wouldn't even waste my time writing something up if I was you lol

Just waive a white flag or something.

But to answer your question, for me it came down to knowing what Seraphin would give you, vs not knowing if Okafor would really give you anything.

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Originally Posted by MichaelMcNamara

Those who voted for Seraphin, tell me what you liked so I can emphasize it more. I feel like he will get destroyed by Blatche next week!

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Not really too much, I think seraphim is slightly better at post D but thats the only thing I have him over Blatche at. Your screwed :/

I got a strategy. Doubt it works, but all I ask is that you guys read the arguments before you vote.

Seems like the majority of fans are interested in players that can contributed to the future, not stop gaps so we can spend our money on next years FA crop (whether that's smart or not). Seraphin has a small chance of realizing his potential that he was drafted for and no matter how small a chance that is, it appeals to the optimistic side of fans much more than "Oak can be really solid this year but even if he's not he's just a stop gap".

However, I don't feel like that will help you against Blatche because he is the ultimate case of "What if?" Like what if he figures it out, he's still young enough to improve, he's been really solid with Brooklyn and he's exactly what we need. Whereas even the most optimistic people could only really focus on the fact that Seraphin has been a better locker room guy than Blatche and that's about it.

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Originally Posted by Mr. West

Seems like the majority of fans are interested in players that can contributed to the future, not stop gaps so we can spend our money on next years FA crop. Seraphin has a small chance of realizing his potential that he was drafted for and no matter how small a chance that is, it appeals to the optimistic side of fans much more than "Oak can be really solid this year but even if he's not he's just a stop gap".

However. I don't feel like that will help you against Blatche because he is the ultimate case of "What if?" Like what if he figures it out, he's still young enough to improve, he's been really solid with Brooklyn and he's exactly what we need. Whereas even the most optimistic people could only really focus on the fact that Seraphin has been a better locker room guy than Blatche and that's about it.

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I agree. That won't be my argument. Cant beat him in the upside or production game.

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Originally Posted by MichaelMcNamara

Those who voted for Seraphin, tell me what you liked so I can emphasize it more. I feel like he will get destroyed by Blatche next week!

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French towers FTW.

Curious as to what you would do if Tucker and Seraphin are in the finals?

Personally one french is already one too many

Sorry, that's just me :hihi:

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Originally Posted by Mr. West

Curious as to what you would do if Tucker and Seraphin are in the finals?

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he will simply say take pj tucker hahaha

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Originally Posted by Mr. West

Curious as to what you would do if Tucker and Seraphin are in the finals?

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I got a surprise planned for the Finals regardless. But if those two make it, I will hand one off. Will be so hard to decide which one!

I'm not saying anyone used anything but i feel like i was the first to mention Serephin on this forum,.:)

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Originally Posted by MichaelMcNamara

Those who voted for Seraphin, tell me what you liked so I can emphasize it more. I feel like he will get destroyed by Blatche next week!

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I liked that he wasn't Okafor. Lol. I'm sorry I can't be much help.

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Originally Posted by Mythrol

I liked that he wasn't Okafor. Lol. I'm sorry I can't be much help.

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Yeah that's pretty much why I voted for him. Okafor is what he is at this point and will only get worse. At least Seraphin has the potential to get better at this stage of his career and was cheaper I believe.

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Originally Posted by da ThRONe

Yeah that's pretty much why I voted for him. Okafor is what he is at this point and will only get worse. At least Seraphin has the potential to get better at this stage of his career and was cheaper I believe.

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He was cheaper per year, but his overall contract was bigger, which is why I thought he would get crushed.