To Keep OR Trade Eric Gordon

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04-13-2013, 04:20 PM
NinthWardJay

To Keep OR Trade Eric Gordon

Keep him
04-13-2013, 04:21 PM
HornetGuru

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Originally Posted by BallSoHard

Look at monta Ellis advance stats.

just save me the time because i dont know which one u are referring to, just tell me what ur thinking.
Also im looking at ellis and rivers' rookie years and they are very similar, if rivers doesnt become our PG he can be a crawford or monta ellis for us off the bench like everyone keeps saying.
04-13-2013, 06:38 PM
da ThRONe

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Originally Posted by GESWhoseBack

Well if we not winnings than everybody will want out. And maybe I should say contending cause while we were not a bottom feeder when cp left we were no where near contention and we all knew that. Name one player making max money on a contender with other good players getting good minutes that's unhappy?..... Don't worry I'll wait.

You didn't say title contending you said winning.

Who is everybody? Are they apart of our future core or not under contract pass 2014? Most if not all first deal players re-up with their 1st team because their rookie deals are so low. So who are we concerned about losing if we aren't winning next year besides Gordon?
04-13-2013, 06:42 PM
Shelbywmccarty

To Keep OR Trade Eric Gordon

Gordon for klay and rich Jeff works too.
04-13-2013, 06:51 PM
MonsterMash

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Originally Posted by HornetGuru

Also if everyone is so concerned thinking Gordon doesnt have value because of his injury history how did monta ellis, someone who averages 21-6-4 get traded for andrew Bogut? someone who has an even worse injury history than our own Eric Gordon

Think we are blowing this out of proportion, why would dell demps, one of the best GM's in the league and a beast at player evaluation, give gordon a max contract knowing his injory history? Because there are only a handful of player in the league that can shoot, score, facilitate and defend. Gordon's trade value is plenty high!

Its fair to question keeping him due to his contract and injury history.

However, the second thing you said also has to be considered. Players who can be a plus everywhere, as Gordon is when healthy, are nearly as rare as unicorns in this league. Gordon can defend. Gordon can shoot. Gordon can handle the ball, isn't a selfish gunner and gets to the foul line at an elite rate.

Keeping him may not be the correct move, but those are the kinds of skill sets you take a chance on if you're inclined to roll the dice.
04-13-2013, 07:08 PM
HornetGuru

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Originally Posted by MonsterMash

Its fair to question keeping him due to his contract and injury history.

However, the second thing you said also has to be considered. Players who can be a plus everywhere, as Gordon is when healthy, are nearly as rare as unicorns in this league. Gordon can defend. Gordon can shoot. Gordon can handle the ball, isn't a selfish gunner and gets to the foul line at an elite rate.

Keeping him may not be the correct move, but those are the kinds of skill sets you take a chance on if you're inclined to roll the dice.

exactly, not only can he score in an awesome way he also is not a black hole or a chucker, he is a very willing passer. If gordon could stay healthy and didnt have past injury concerns there are not a lot of players in the league i would trade him for, only like 15.
04-13-2013, 07:11 PM
GESWhoseBack

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Originally Posted by da ThRONe

You didn't say title contending you said winning.

Who is everybody? Are they apart of our future core or not under contract pass 2014? Most if not all first deal players re-up with their 1st team because their rookie deals are so low. So who are we concerned about losing if we aren't winning next year besides Gordon?

Now you changing the subject. Everybody is everybody. Nobody wants to play for a perpetually losing team. I'm not concerned about losing anyone at the moment. Maybe Aminu but that's another story all together.
04-13-2013, 07:13 PM
BallSoHard

To Keep OR Trade Eric Gordon

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Originally Posted by HornetGuru

exactly, not only can he score in an awesome way he also is not a black hole or a chucker, he is a very willing passer. If gordon could stay healthy and didnt have past injury concerns there are not a lot of players in the league i would trade him for, only like 15.

That's an Empire state building sized "IF"
04-13-2013, 07:15 PM
HornetGuru

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Originally Posted by BallSoHard

That's an Empire state building sized "IF"

ya thats the crappy part
04-13-2013, 07:16 PM
BallSoHard

To Keep OR Trade Eric Gordon

Trust me, I hope he does get healthy and blows it up.
04-13-2013, 07:27 PM
GESWhoseBack

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Originally Posted by BallSoHard

Trust me, I hope he does get healthy and blows it up.

Me too. I just wonder at what point does the trade Gordon obsession stop?
04-13-2013, 07:31 PM
BallSoHard

To Keep OR Trade Eric Gordon

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Originally Posted by GESWhoseBack

Me too. I just wonder at what point does the trade Gordon obsession stop?

When he stays healthy for a whole season and says he wants to be here to appease our overly insecure fanbase.
04-13-2013, 07:46 PM
Inner_GI

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Originally Posted by GESWhoseBack

Me too. I just wonder at what point does the trade Gordon obsession stop?

When he produces/plays for 67-82 games a year.
04-13-2013, 07:52 PM
GESWhoseBack

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Originally Posted by BallSoHard

When he stays healthy for a whole season and says he wants to be here to appease our overly insecure fanbase.

Hasn't he said something similar already or he has to say those exact words.
04-13-2013, 08:09 PM
da ThRONe

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Originally Posted by GESWhoseBack

Now you changing the subject. Everybody is everybody. Nobody wants to play for a perpetually losing team. I'm not concerned about losing anyone at the moment. Maybe Aminu but that's another story all together.

You are the one who is suggesting that if we aren't "winning" by next year our whole team will be looking to play for another team. I'm simply trying to inform you historically that isn't how it works.
04-13-2013, 08:33 PM
BIG_CITY_BOI

if Benson is really serious about building us a winning franchise he'll find a way to get rid of Eric Gordon....he has to be the most overrated player in hornets history, the dude hasn't led a single team to the play-offs or a winning record but somehow he's a future all-star smh
04-13-2013, 08:38 PM
MonsterMash

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Originally Posted by BIG_CITY_BOI

if Benson is really serious about building us a winning franchise he'll find a way to get rid of Eric Gordon....he has to be the most overrated player in hornets history, the dude hasn't led a single team to the play-offs or a winning record but somehow he's a future all-star smh

By his play, he'll probably be a multi-time All-Star if he can stay healthy. As stated above, big "IF", but has nothing to do with ability level.

His teams haven't gone to the playoffs because they've been extremely young or not that talented. A healthy Gordon wasn't dragging a team full of 19-23 year olds into the West playoffs or last year's roster of misfit toys.
04-13-2013, 09:38 PM
GESWhoseBack

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Originally Posted by da ThRONe

You are the one who is suggesting that if we aren't "winning" by next year our whole team will be looking to play for another team. I'm simply trying to inform you historically that isn't how it works.

never said by next year cause that's not realistic I would be happy with close to .500.
04-13-2013, 09:57 PM
da ThRONe

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Originally Posted by GESWhoseBack

never said by next year cause that's not realistic I would be happy with close to .500.

Well considering next year will be the last time we really have to convince EJ not to force his way out. The following year he holds all the power with the opt out clause in his contract. All he has to do is say he'll opt out and that put us in a position of trade him or lose him for nothing after the year is up.
04-13-2013, 10:23 PM
DiMaggio dunks

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Originally Posted by BallSoHard

When he stays healthy for a whole season and says he wants to be here to appease our overly insecure fanbase.

Doubting a basketball player's desire is not a sign of insecurity. People will want to keep Gordon when he proves he's not made of glass and acts like a man off the court. He gets attached to Phoenix and then felt threatened by Austin Rivers. Who's insecure?
04-13-2013, 10:29 PM
BallSoHard

To Keep OR Trade Eric Gordon

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Originally Posted by DiMaggio dunks

Doubting a basketball player's desire is not a sign of insecurity. People will want to keep Gordon when he proves he's not made of glass and acts like a man off the court. He gets attached to Phoenix and then felt threatened by Austin Rivers. Who's insecure?

Wait, he doesn't act like a man off the court :hihi: ?
04-13-2013, 10:32 PM
Topdawg26

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Originally Posted by Shelbywmccarty

Gordon for klay and rich Jeff works too.

I would do that trade in a heartbeat!
04-13-2013, 10:38 PM
Kumar

I wouldn't. Klay is sharpshooter who can't shoot or play defense. Richard Jefferson maybe an expiring contract but this trade just puts our team another year back in the rebuild.
04-13-2013, 10:49 PM
hornetstime247

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Originally Posted by Kumar

I wouldn't. Klay is sharpshooter who can't shoot or play defense. Richard Jefferson maybe an expiring contract but this trade just puts our team another year back in the rebuild.

klay thompson... the guy who has hit 207 threes on 40% shooting?
04-13-2013, 10:56 PM
GESWhoseBack

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Originally Posted by hornetstime247

klay thompson... the guy who has hit 207 threes on 40% shooting?

yeah a sharpshooter should hit at least 75 percent of his shots!

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