Pels Off season thread

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Originally Posted by PELICANSFAN

League sources believe the Spencer Dinwiddie sweepstakes are a three-way race between the #Pelicans, #Knicks and possibly #Wizards. I’m told the Pels have been coveting Dinwiddie and could they have the inside track - perhaps w/a longer deal that would pay him upwards of $20M per

— Jordan Schultz (@Schultz_Report) August 2, 2021

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Ahhh kill me now

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Originally Posted by PELICANSFAN

League sources believe the Spencer Dinwiddie sweepstakes are a three-way race between the #Pelicans, #Knicks and possibly #Wizards. I?m told the Pels have been coveting Dinwiddie and could they have the inside track - perhaps w/a longer deal that would pay him upwards of $20M per

? Jordan Schultz (@Schultz_Report) August 2, 2021

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I like it.

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Originally Posted by PELICANSFAN

League sources believe the Spencer Dinwiddie sweepstakes are a three-way race between the #Pelicans, #Knicks and possibly #Wizards. I?m told the Pels have been coveting Dinwiddie and could they have the inside track - perhaps w/a longer deal that would pay him upwards of $20M per

? Jordan Schultz (@Schultz_Report) August 2, 2021

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This would be a huge gamble that could turn into an albatross contract if Dinwiddie doesn’t regain his pre-ACL tear form. It could be the move that builds a contender or forces Zion out in 2 years. This is the type of gamble that McNamara has been pushing for. Can Aaron Nelson and Fred Vinson mold Dinwiddie to earn their paychecks?

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Originally Posted by Darkhorse985

This would be a huge gamble that could turn into an albatross contract if Dinwiddie doesn’t regain his pre-ACL tear form. It could be the move the builds a contender or forces Zion out in 2 years.

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He would need to pick back up exactly where he left off, without any missing steps or slow starts, and improve his shot selection lol

More: John Collins and the Hawks are NOT close to an agreement

— Mason Ginsberg (@MasonGinsberg) August 2, 2021

Feel like John Collins to the Mavs just makes sense on both sides?

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Originally Posted by Darkhorse985

This would be a huge gamble that could turn into an albatross contract if Dinwiddie doesn’t regain his pre-ACL tear form. It could be the move that builds a contender or forces Zion out in 2 years. This is the type of gamble that McNamara has been pushing for. Can Aaron Nelson and Fred Vinson mold Dinwiddie to earn their paychecks.

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Would obviously prefer a 2 year deal if we are going to pay that much.

Dinwiddie meeting with the Wizards per Shams

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Originally Posted by Darkhorse985

This would be a huge gamble that could turn into an albatross contract if Dinwiddie doesn’t regain his pre-ACL tear form. It could be the move that builds a contender or forces Zion out in 2 years. This is the type of gamble that McNamara has been pushing for. Can Aaron Nelson and Fred Vinson mold Dinwiddie to earn their paychecks?

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I'm not totally against the idea after thinking on it all day. I do think the media types won't be a big fan of it though not that it matters. The terry rozier deal of a few years ago comes to mind as one that people didnt like much but looks alot better now. I guess when your a team like pelicans sometimes you gotta swing for the fences.

WHY HAVEN'T WE SIGNED ANYONE YET?!

Losing It GIF from Tommyboy GIFs

Chris Farley was funny as ********. RIP.

BI is about 3 to 4 years away from his prime....Zion about five to six years. Dinwiddie, even if slightly lessened, is a decent vet to lead through those years and his explosive skillset matches well with Kira.
...like....NAW and Kira need a vet to lead them. Lowry would be perfect for that. Dinwiddie is the next best.

If my only concern is how to win next season, Dinwiddie doesn't excite me. If I'm thinking about the development of our youth, I really like him. And a three year contract fits in to where he can help us progress and then we can move on as our core is entering into their prime. He fits the timeline like a glove.

You guys know I like me some Lonzo. I prefer Dinwiddie because of this PG leadership for Kira and NAW angle.

Lonzo Ball has agreed to a four-year, $85 million deal with the Chicago Bulls, CEO of Klutch Sports Rich Paul tells @TheAthletic @Stadium.

— Shams Charania (@ShamsCharania) August 2, 2021

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Originally Posted by Pelicanidae

Lonzo Ball has agreed to a four-year, $85 million deal with the Chicago Bulls, CEO of Klutch Sports Rich Paul tells @TheAthletic @Stadium.

— Shams Charania (@ShamsCharania) August 2, 2021

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He got his $20 milli amd then some.

New Orleans Pelicans guard Lonzo Ball is landing on a four-year, $85 million contract with Chicago Bulls in a sign-and-trade agreement, his agent and @KlutchSports CEO Rich Paul tells ESPN.

— Adrian Wojnarowski (@wojespn) August 2, 2021

And Woj adds that it is, indeed, a S&T

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Originally Posted by Taker597

He got his $20 milli amd then some.

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Chicago does not have the money to simply do this. This is a sign and trade arrangement.

so who the sign and trade is for with lonzo?...who we getting back?......

side note..lavar spoke the ball brothers on the same team in existence lol...

Per source, veteran guard Garrett Temple will be going to the New Orleans Hornets on a three-year deal, with first two years guaranteed at $5 million per.

— David Aldridge (@davidaldridgedc) August 2, 2021

maybe?

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Originally Posted by JunkHead

Per source, veteran guard Garrett Temple will be going to the New Orleans Hornets on a three-year deal, with first two years guaranteed at $5 million per.

— David Aldridge (@davidaldridgedc) August 2, 2021

maybe?

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New Orleans Hornets?

We’ll regret losing Ball.

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Originally Posted by rezburna

We’ll regret losing Ball.

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At least we'll get to see the Ball Zach meme.

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Originally Posted by rezburna

We’ll regret losing Ball.

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Add it to the list.

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Originally Posted by JunkHead

Per source, veteran guard Garrett Temple will be going to the New Orleans Hornets on a three-year deal, with first two years guaranteed at $5 million per.

— David Aldridge (@davidaldridgedc) August 2, 2021

maybe?

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...That seems like a waste of time to me.

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Originally Posted by bradael

New Orleans Hornets?

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its 2021...its just sad man..

The Chicago Bulls are sending Tomas Satoransky, Garrett Temple and a second-round pick to New Orleans for Lonzo Ball, who's signing a four-year, $85M contract, sources tell @TheAthletic @Stadium.

— Shams Charania (@ShamsCharania) August 2, 2021

Free agent Mike Conley Jr. has agreed to a three-year, $68 million deal to return to the Utah Jazz, sources tell @TheAthletic @Stadium.

— Shams Charania (@ShamsCharania) August 2, 2021

Conley gets his $20m+ a year also

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Originally Posted by rezburna

We’ll regret losing Ball.

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That depends on what they do with $20 million a year....

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Originally Posted by JunkHead

The Chicago Bulls are sending Tomas Satoransky, Garrett Temple and a second-round pick to New Orleans for Lonzo Ball, who's signing a four-year, $85M contract, sources tell @TheAthletic @Stadium.

— Shams Charania (@ShamsCharania) August 2, 2021

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Satoransky is pretty solid, not too unhappy with that. Kind of whatever about Temple, can't see a real role for him on this team (now that I've said that Green will play him 37 minutes a game).

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Originally Posted by JunkHead

The Chicago Bulls are sending Tomas Satoransky, Garrett Temple and a second-round pick to New Orleans for Lonzo Ball, who's signing a four-year, $85M contract, sources tell @TheAthletic @Stadium.

— Shams Charania (@ShamsCharania) August 2, 2021

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i like Sato but what the heck is this. We have the leverage and we took back negative value. Very confused.

Free agent forward JaMychal Green has agreed to a two-year, $17 million deal to return to the Denver Nuggets, sources tell @TheAthletic @Stadium. Deal includes player option in Year 2.

— Shams Charania (@ShamsCharania) August 2, 2021

Pretty good value for Denver here

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Originally Posted by JunkHead

The Chicago Bulls are sending Tomas Satoransky, Garrett Temple and a second-round pick to New Orleans for Lonzo Ball, who's signing a four-year, $85M contract, sources tell @TheAthletic @Stadium.

? Shams Charania (@ShamsCharania) August 2, 2021

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Old non-shooters , great.

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Originally Posted by Pelifan

i like Sato but what the heck is this. We have the leverage and we took back negative value. Very confused.

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First time being with a farm team?


And we didn't have leverage. Klutch been leaking away all our leverage.

the heat are giving butler a max contract so does that mean robinson is out?...

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Originally Posted by Darkhorse985

Old non-shooters , great.

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Satoransky is 29 :hihi:

I promise you, not everyone on the roster has to be 25 and under.

Boooooo

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Originally Posted by 6warddude

the heat are giving butler a max contract so does that mean robinson is out?...

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Not necessarily, they have his bird rights so their cap situation is meaningless with regards to how much they can offer him.

Surely there is more to this deal

I guess we'll see what we do with the cap space to know for sure. Feels like a loss, now, but if that space is filled with something good.....I dunno.

That is a joke of a return on Ball. Nothing good to say about this from NBA channel. There has to be something else in mind here (expiring contracts?)

Now to sit and wait to see what else we do.

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Originally Posted by 6warddude

the heat are giving butler a max contract so does that mean robinson is out?...

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Butler isn't a free agent, right? So, this is an extension that goes into effect next season.

Tomas has a 10mil expiring which is fine, Temple was an UFA though so wonder what kind of coin we threw at him.

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Originally Posted by Pelicanidae

Satoransky is 29 :hihi:

I promise you, not everyone on the roster has to be 25 and under.

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Are you excited by Satoransky (10 million a year) or Temple (5 million a year)? Both have been routine bench fodder on bad teams.

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Originally Posted by Lee2000

That is a joke of a return on Ball. Nothing good to say about this from NBA channel. There has to be something else in mind here (expiring contracts?)

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A complete and utter joke. Griff is making himself look bad.

*Constantly leaks that we won't resign Lonzo*
*Lonzo only want to go to Chicago *
*Leaks intensify*
*People surprised we got table scraps instead of nothing *

Have we not seen how Rich Paul does business? He always sabotages trade value.

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Originally Posted by Darkhorse985

Are you excited by Satoransky (10 million a year) or Temple (5 million a year)?

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I'm fine with Tomas. He's as good a player as Hart, and he's expiring so he doesn't bog us down with bad long term value.

Similarly, I don't expect Temple to get any real playtime.

The question isn't ''am I excited by these individual players in a vacuum'' because that's not how these kinds of decisions are made. In reality we had three main choices with Lonzo.

1) Pay him $20m+ a year.
2) Let him walk for nothing
3) S&T him for any value we can get.

We did 3. I think that's the best option, because I do not think Ball is worth $20m a year and losing players for nothing sucks. So what did we get back in the S&T? Well, $15m of extremely tradable salary including an expiring, and a second round pick. $10m of that salary is Tomas Satoransky, who is a good and productive NBA player - just as good as, for example, Josh Hart, who will probably cost more than $10m this offseason, so that's saving us money elsewhere as well.

Do I think it's a magical move of genius that makes me thrilled beyond belief? No. But I'm fine with it, and am willing to wait to see what else Griff does before having a tantrum over it.

Garrett Temple

LSU LSU LSU LSU

The contract is meh, but those two players aren't going to cut it for me

Well free agency just started

im just going to assume that rich paul does not want his good players here...so matching lonzo offer would have been a bad thing for us...

I'm starting to believe that David Griffin was brought in to sabotage the organization

We traded Ball for two people who can’t even shoot. Griff is trash man.