A torn ACL is a serious injury, you can't just assume that a player will come back and immediately be fine. Sure, it's not the worst of all possible injuries but it's pretty bad!Quote:
Originally Posted by pelafanatic
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08-02-2021, 11:20 AMPelicanidae
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08-02-2021, 11:27 AMPelicanidae
All I really want to add at this point to the team is someone who can make shots from outside at a high level who isn't also completely useless with the ball in their hands.
They don't need to be a guard, they don't need to be 6'2, I don't really care if they're a ''pg'' or not. I'm willing to trust that between Kira going into his second season, NAW into his third, and Zion/BI as a duo, we have enough guys who can have the ball in their hands and make plays. Maybe that's stupid, but I'm fine with just seeing what happens with it.
But I still want to see if we can add one more shooter/tertiary ball handler.
Basically what I'm saying is that I still want Joe Ingles. -
08-02-2021, 11:28 AMpelafanaticHe chose to have surgery on it given it was a contract year. He would have come back for the championship had the Nets made it that far. He?s not 100% healthy. Obviously you take it into consideration in negotiations, but I?m just as worried about Lonzo?s health, or Brogdon even more so.Quote:
Originally Posted by PELICANSFAN
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08-02-2021, 11:29 AMpelafanaticYea that’s why, if Ingles is off the table, Powell is my number 1 options. Would love him at 3/50Quote:
Originally Posted by Pelicanidae
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08-02-2021, 11:30 AMUNO GraciasYeah, but did he die?Quote:
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08-02-2021, 11:31 AMPELICANSFANDinwiddie has missed his share of games prior to the injury as well, but the injury is more concerning. I am sure teams are aware of how he is progressing though.Quote:
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08-02-2021, 11:32 AMPELICANSFAN
Portis looking to get paid also-
Report: Bobby Portis seeking contract ?north of $15M? https://t.co/9W7TtYZS5C
— NBA Central (@TheNBACentral) August 2, 2021 -
08-02-2021, 11:35 AMmsusousaphone
Started looking into Devonte' Graham after the sign and trade for Ball rumor came out and this article title just makes me laugh.
https://www.atthehive.com/2021/1/7/2...od-and-not-bad
I've actually grown to really like the Dinwiddie option thinking about how good he'd be for Kira to grow behind. His game matches well with Zion, too. -
08-02-2021, 11:39 AMPelicanidaeIt's true, he is in fact good and not bad. Mostly.Quote:
Originally Posted by msusousaphone
Not as bad defensively as his size might imply (he was a +0.2 D-EPM last year, for reference, which is about 66th percentile. Not good, but also not horrific!) and a legitimately excellent shooter on frankly absurd volume (something like 14 attempts per 100 this year, which is bonkers). Good passer who doesn't turn it over.
Can't get to the rim and can't finish there is his major flaw. Legitimately just garbage at it, really awful. And despite his efforts, the defense still isn't good. But yeah he's fine. Wouldn't be the worst option in the world. -
08-02-2021, 11:41 AM13 - 3
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08-02-2021, 11:44 AMpelafanatic
ESPN has Duncan Robinson resigning with the heat for 12 mil per year. I’d go in way higher than that if I’m Griff. Offer 4/72 and force their hand
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08-02-2021, 11:46 AMAusPelSo basically replacing Lonzo with LonzoQuote:
Originally Posted by Pelicanidae
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08-02-2021, 11:48 AMpelafanaticReplacing Lonzo with Lonzo for close to half the cost would not be a bad moveQuote:
Originally Posted by AusPel
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08-02-2021, 11:53 AMmsusousaphone
Half the cost, huge loss in upside, and way way less D.
Getting Graham, to me, is saying "we fully expect Kira to turn into the starting PG within two seasons". Or they see another option. And I'm ok with that. -
08-02-2021, 12:05 PMpelafanaticAnd that?s the worry. You can?t go into a playoff series with both Graham and Kira defensively. You would be so incredibly undersized at the position. I?m a big fan of Kira so personally I?d rather a shooting wing than GrahamQuote:
Originally Posted by msusousaphone
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08-02-2021, 12:14 PMTaker597He should easily get that. FA market is soooo bad.Quote:
Originally Posted by PELICANSFAN
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08-02-2021, 12:23 PMDarkhorse985But not many people have cap room. The market is overall poor in talent, and we should be bargain shopping if we can?t land the big fish of CP3, Lowry, or Norman Powell, imo.Quote:
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08-02-2021, 12:25 PMUNO Gracias
Is there a more annoying voice in the NBA media than Kendrick Perkins?
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08-02-2021, 12:31 PMTaker597Find another 6"10" 250 LB 6th man entering his prime that can defend, rebound, and shoot.Quote:
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He may settle for 11 million on a contender, but he's probably getting close to 13 million. -
08-02-2021, 12:50 PMAs I See ItABSOLUTELY TRUE!!!Quote:
Originally Posted by Pelicanidae
When people see those three letters (ACL), nowadays they think it's not serious...not true. Both cruciate ligaments are critical for the stabilization of the knee. To provide for the weakened stabilization, one has to build muscle to enhance the weakened (or lost) ligament. Failure to do so, can (and usually does) provide for a litany of other failings in knee. -
08-02-2021, 12:50 PMDaPelFromHell
Well if Lowry is out the picture, I may be inclined to take Lonzo back as long as we could add two other decent free agents with him. I wonder how much Oladipo would cost for a 1 year prove it deal? He couldn?t cost too much considering his injury history the last few years. Kelly Olynyk might be my favorite to sign as a backup 4 since he could use his floor spacing at both the 4 & 5.
C: Jonas, Hayes
PF: Zion, Olynyk
SF: BI, Murphy
SG: Oladipo, NAW
PG: Lonzo, Kira
That team would have to make the playoffs if we can get a healthy run out of Oladipo. Having NAW as a player I think could be worthy of starting if Oladipo would need to miss some time would make the Oladipo signing not as much as a risk. Huge risk, high reward -
08-02-2021, 12:55 PMPelicanidaeI'm sure his voice would be more tolerable if he were capable of coherent speech.Quote:
Originally Posted by UNO Gracias
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08-02-2021, 12:55 PMDarkhorse985No. He spouts a series of dumb hot takes and just agrees with other commentators when in depth analysis is asked/needed. I am curious how many offensive things he needs to say before he gets fired.Quote:
Originally Posted by UNO Gracias
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08-02-2021, 12:56 PMSpeakthetruth
- A three-way deal between the Charlotte Hornets, New Orleans Pelicans, and Chicago Bulls is under consideration, sources confirm. The possibility was first reported by The Athletic.Tomas Satoransky, Lonzo Ball, and DeVonte Graham are among names who have come up, per SNY sources. The possibility of a Bulls-Pelicans deal without the Hornets that would send Ball to the Bulls and Satoransky to the Pelicans has also been under consideration
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08-02-2021, 12:56 PMPELICANSFANHe was beyond terrible in the draft coverage. It was clear that he knew very little about the players being chosen.Quote:
Originally Posted by Darkhorse985
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08-02-2021, 12:57 PMPelicanidaeMoses MoodyQuote:
Originally Posted by Darkhorse985
Mooding moises
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08-02-2021, 12:59 PMAs I See ItI with dae on this one. Joe Ingles would be my first signing if possible.Quote:
Originally Posted by DaPelFromHell
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08-02-2021, 01:03 PMSpeakthetruthLol that was ridiculous.Quote:
Originally Posted by Pelicanidae
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08-02-2021, 01:05 PMDarkhorse985Perk was basically at the draft to take up a large amount of space and refer to Westbrook as “The Brodie” whenever he was brought up.Quote:
Originally Posted by Pelicanidae
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08-02-2021, 01:15 PM13 - 3Quote:
Originally Posted by UNO Gracias
NO, LEBRON! pic.twitter.com/OedQ4BoCPY
— Skip Bayless (@RealSkipBayless) July 30, 2021 -
08-02-2021, 01:15 PMTaker597
Whatever happens guys... Nothing will be worse than when the Lakers signing Timmy Mozgov for $50+ million at 12:01... A minute after tampering started.
I still think about to this day and chuckle. -
08-02-2021, 01:23 PMDarkhorse985Lol. Asik was not far off of that.Quote:
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08-02-2021, 01:32 PMSilver Nail
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08-02-2021, 02:03 PMSpeakthetruth
Kristian Winfield @Krisplashed
about 5 minutes ago
Teams interested in Spencer Dinwiddie have come to the table with three-year deals at an average salary of $22 million, according to a league source. -
08-02-2021, 02:03 PMEman5805
Much like the death of Imhotep, the Lonzo offer sheet is only the beginning.
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08-02-2021, 02:06 PMEman5805
Dinwiddie has a built in stamp of approval trait for me. He gets to the rim at a high level. Kinda like Tyreke. I’m just…I dunno. Not enthused about the prospect this time.
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08-02-2021, 02:09 PMBert123
Been a long minute since I’ve been here, how’s everyone doing? Pretty excited for today tbh!
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08-02-2021, 02:12 PMpelafanaticI don't think the Pels would touch thisQuote:
Originally Posted by Speakthetruth
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08-02-2021, 02:19 PMEman5805
Is he this much of a leader if he thinks he can fry $22 mil? Makes his team better and all?
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08-02-2021, 02:24 PMPelicanidaeI certainly wouldn't.Quote:
Originally Posted by pelafanatic
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08-02-2021, 02:25 PMPelicanidae
Evan Fournier and Knicks closing in on a 3-year, $54 million deal per @KnicksFanTv
— Daily Knicks (@DailyKnicksFS) August 2, 2021
Sorry that took 3 tries, I was just freaking out a little bit
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08-02-2021, 02:27 PMTaker597
This FA is probably gonna be wild.
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08-02-2021, 02:28 PMDarkhorse985It’s either Dinwiddie or Ball at that price. I am betting it’s Dinwiddie. A lot of the rumors are generated by agents. I doubt Dinwiddie has a large market. Who would want to give him a big contract besides the Pels?Quote:
Originally Posted by pelafanatic
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08-02-2021, 02:28 PMPELICANSFAN
Lonzo Ball is ready to sign with the Chicago Bulls as soon as free agency starts, per @NYPost_Berman.
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08-02-2021, 02:29 PMPELICANSFAN
As free agency looms, Duncan Robinson has told associates that his preference is to remain with the Miami Heat, source tells AP.
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08-02-2021, 02:33 PMPELICANSFAN
- A three-way deal between the Charlotte Hornets, New Orleans Pelicans, and Chicago Bulls is under consideration, sources confirm. The possibility was first reported by The Athletic.Tomas Satoransky, Lonzo Ball, and DeVonte Graham are among names who have come up, per SNY sources. The possibility of a Bulls-Pelicans deal without the Hornets that would send Ball to the Bulls and Satoransky to the Pelicans has also been under consideration. This has implications for the Knicks because they are in the market for a point guard
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08-02-2021, 02:36 PMDarkhorse985Pels may play their PG choice close to the vest to get more out of the Bulls out of a sign and trade for Lonzo.Quote:
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08-02-2021, 02:39 PMPELICANSFANIf we settle for Satoranksy, I wonder if Griff just rides with him at the lead for a year and goes hard after someone like Powell on the wing.Quote:
Originally Posted by Darkhorse985
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08-02-2021, 02:49 PMPELICANSFAN
I'm told the Hornets, Pelicans and Bulls have discussed a three-team deal that sends Devonte Graham to the New Orleans, Lonzo Ball to the Chicago and Lauri Markkanen to Charlotte.
— Kristian Winfield (@Krisplashed) August 2, 2021 -
08-02-2021, 02:53 PMTaker597Yard Sale SwapQuote:
Originally Posted by PELICANSFAN