Free Agency Thread

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Originally Posted by rt0307

which in our case means we can't move Jrue until Dec. 15

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I'm aware. You still misstated the rule.

didn't Wall just re-sign with the Wiz?

isn't he under that Dec. 15 rule too?

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Originally Posted by rt0307

didn't Wall just re-sign with the Wiz?

isn't he under that Dec. 15 rule too?

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No. Wizards offered him an extension, but he didn't take it. He stated he "wants to wait and see"

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Originally Posted by rt0307

didn't Wall just re-sign with the Wiz?

isn't he under that Dec. 15 rule too?

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No he was offered an extension. He never made a decision on whether to sign it.

I would like to just shed Asik and Ajinca's contract while picking up some quality bench players. Trade a couple of firsts for more cap space and a second or two.

Sign Tyreke, Nick Young, Tarik Black, and Anthony Tolliver


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Originally Posted by Tinman

Look, I answered the question. That's all. I didn't say it was going to happen. I said it could & it is legal. DEANDRE jORDAN ! And since you want to be so pedantic ! Actually, NOT Technically, but as you say LIterally they can still trade Jrue. Jrue would've had to approve any sign & trade, even before the verbal agreement, so that point is moot.

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The point isn't moot. I'm pointing out that in order to execute a sign and trade, Jrue would have to approve the targeted team. Whether it happens before or after the agreement is irrelevant. The fact remains it's an additional barrier, pre-agreement or post, thus making it further unlikely of happening.

That isn't even getting into whether the other team would be thrilled with absorbing Jrue's contract, which in most people's eyes, is a significant overpay. Just because the Pels were able to stomach it, doesn't mean other teams would.

I will say i find it odd that no other twitter traffic on a potential trade. One would think other teams would want it out there as to get better offers.


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The Pacers & Monta Ellis, per league sources, are discussing a possible buyout situation. Such a deal could be done later this month.

— Nate Taylor (@ByNateTaylor) July 4, 2017

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Originally Posted by Sleeper

So could we get Wall without trading Jrue? If the answer is no then lets please be realistic with the speculation.


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I am going to paint a picture for y'all: This is how we can get John Wall and start winning championships.

I never said that we must trade Jrue right now, this 17-18 season.

These are the steps:

1. I said: All we NEED to do this off-season is trade for Bledsoe.

2. Once that happens, then all we need to do is next is to make the play-offs. After making the play-offs, then that will 100% ensure that Boogie will sign an extension with us next summer. Why? Not only are we showing him that we are trying to win, but since he's also loyal, and the Kentucky blood/family/brotherhood runs stronger than one would think, then he will want to stay here and play with AD and Bledsoe (college teammate and best friend...The groomsmen at Bledsoe's wedding along with Wall).

3. Now, it wasn't a coincidence that John Wall didn't sign his extension when the Wizards had offered him a new contract earlier this summer...It wasn't a coincidence that Wall said, "I want to wait and see" around the SAME TIME that it was reported that Boogie is recruiting free agents to come play for the Pelicans.

4A. Wall has two years left on his contract. If he doesn't sign his extension, then he becomes a CP3/Paul George next summer with one year left on his contract. THIS will be the time to trade Jrue and assets for John Wall. Less teams will want to trade for Wall just because they'll be trading for an one-year rental. We will also be trading for an one-year rental in Wall. However, there's no way Pelicans wouldn't pull the trigger on Wall even for an one-year rental because WE KNOW with confidence that we will have the highest chance to sign him to an extension when his contract expires and becomes an UFA. Because guess what? He's not going to leave us with AD/Boogie/Bledsoe on the team. Remember that Kentucky blood and best friends and old college teammates thing I was talking about earlier?

4B. Now, if ANOTHER team beat us to the punch and trade for Wall as an one-year rental, then what do we do? Good. You go after Coach Cal that off-season. So, now you got Coach Cal, Boogie, Bledsoe, and AD? Two of Wall's old college teammates and his old college coach? Wall will definitely leave the team that traded for him and come play for the Pelicans. This might even be better because now you can trade Jrue for an allstar/superstar SF because of knowing that Wall is coming here.

5. After that, you go after veterans who are chasing championships and will play for the minimum.
We will then have a roster of: Wall, Bledsoe, AD, Boogie, superstar/all-star SF and maybe Coach Cal (If another team traded for Wall as an one-year rental), and veterans.

6. Championships


Step 1? Go trade for Bledsoe.

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Originally Posted by WhyHornetsWhy

I am going to paint a picture for y'all:

I never said that we must trade Jrue right now, this 17-18 season.

1. I said: All we NEED to do this off-season is trade for Bledsoe.

2. Once that happens, then all we need to do is next is to make the play-offs. After making the play-offs, then that will 100% ensure that Boogie will sign an extension with us next summer. Why? Not only are we showing him that we are trying to win, but since he's also loyal, and the Kentucky blood/family/brotherhood runs stronger than one would think, then he will want to stay here and play with AD and Bledsoe (college teammate and best friend...The groomsmen at Bledsoe's wedding along with Wall).

3. Now, it wasn't a coincidence that John Wall didn't sign his extension when the Wizards had offered him a new contract earlier this summer...It wasn't a coincidence that Wall said, "I want to wait and see" around the SAME TIME that it was reported that Boogie is recruiting free agents to come play for the Pelicans.

4. Wall has two years left on his contract. If he doesn't sign his extension, then he becomes a CP3/Paul George next summer with one year left on his contract. THIS will be the time to trade Jrue and assets for John Wall. Less teams will want to trade for Wall just because they'll be trading for an one-year rental. We will also be trading for an one-year rental in Wall. However, there's no way Pelicans won't pull the trigger on Wall for an one-year rental because WE KNOW we will have the highest chance to sign him to an extension when his contract expires and becomes an UFA. Because guess what? He's not going to leave us with AD/Boogie/Bledsoe on the team. Remember that Kentucky blood and best friends and old college teammates thing I was talking about earlier?
A. Now, if ANOTHER team beat us and were to trade for Wall for an one-year rental, then what? Good. You go after Coach Cal that off-season. So, now you got Coach Cal, Boogie, Bledsoe, and AD? Two of Wall's old college teammates and coach? Wall will definitely leave the team that traded for him and come play for the Pelicans. This might even be better because now you can trade Jrue for an allstar/superstar SF knowing that Wall is coming here.

5. After that, you go after veterans who are chasing championships and will play for the minimum.
We will then have a roster of: Wall, Bledsoe, AD, Boogie, superstar/all-star SF and maybe Coach Cal (If another team traded for Wall as an one-year rental)

6. Championships


Step 1? Go trade for Bledsoe.

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I'm all for that but as someone pointed out the fifth year is a player option for Jrue so he would have to agree. Not many people beating the door down to play in Phoenix or Washington. Just my opinion that all of the trouble to go through for a trade makes no sense when they could have just done a sign and trade. It's obvious that the player option shows the Pels FO is all in on Jrue. Could be wrong and hopefully i am.


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Can we have another thread with all these things instead of the thread that tracks what's going on?

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Originally Posted by WhyHornetsWhy

I am going to paint a picture for y'all: This is how we can get John Wall and start winning championships.

I never said that we must trade Jrue right now, this 17-18 season.

These are the steps:

1. I said: All we NEED to do this off-season is trade for Bledsoe.

2. Once that happens, then all we need to do is next is to make the play-offs. After making the play-offs, then that will 100% ensure that Boogie will sign an extension with us next summer. Why? Not only are we showing him that we are trying to win, but since he's also loyal, and the Kentucky blood/family/brotherhood runs stronger than one would think, then he will want to stay here and play with AD and Bledsoe (college teammate and best friend...The groomsmen at Bledsoe's wedding along with Wall).

3. Now, it wasn't a coincidence that John Wall didn't sign his extension when the Wizards had offered him a new contract earlier this summer...It wasn't a coincidence that Wall said, "I want to wait and see" around the SAME TIME that it was reported that Boogie is recruiting free agents to come play for the Pelicans.

4A. Wall has two years left on his contract. If he doesn't sign his extension, then he becomes a CP3/Paul George next summer with one year left on his contract. THIS will be the time to trade Jrue and assets for John Wall. Less teams will want to trade for Wall just because they'll be trading for an one-year rental. We will also be trading for an one-year rental in Wall. However, there's no way Pelicans wouldn't pull the trigger on Wall even for an one-year rental because WE KNOW with confidence that we will have the highest chance to sign him to an extension when his contract expires and becomes an UFA. Because guess what? He's not going to leave us with AD/Boogie/Bledsoe on the team. Remember that Kentucky blood and best friends and old college teammates thing I was talking about earlier?

4B. Now, if ANOTHER team beat us to the punch and trade for Wall as an one-year rental, then what do we do? Good. You go after Coach Cal that off-season. So, now you got Coach Cal, Boogie, Bledsoe, and AD? Two of Wall's old college teammates and his old college coach? Wall will definitely leave the team that traded for him and come play for the Pelicans. This might even be better because now you can trade Jrue for an allstar/superstar SF knowing that Wall is coming here.

5. After that, you go after veterans who are chasing championships and will play for the minimum.
We will then have a roster of: Wall, Bledsoe, AD, Boogie, superstar/all-star SF and maybe Coach Cal (If another team traded for Wall as an one-year rental)

6. Championships


Step 1? Go trade for Bledsoe.

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I'm all for it!! It just seems to much like right for Dell to get it done.

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Originally Posted by WhyHornetsWhy

I am going to paint a picture for y'all: This is how we can get John Wall and start winning championships.

I never said that we must trade Jrue right now, this 17-18 season.

These are the steps:

1. I said: All we NEED to do this off-season is trade for Bledsoe.

2. Once that happens, then all we need to do is next is to make the play-offs. After making the play-offs, then that will 100% ensure that Boogie will sign an extension with us next summer. Why? Not only are we showing him that we are trying to win, but since he's also loyal, and the Kentucky blood/family/brotherhood runs stronger than one would think, then he will want to stay here and play with AD and Bledsoe (college teammate and best friend...The groomsmen at Bledsoe's wedding along with Wall).

3. Now, it wasn't a coincidence that John Wall didn't sign his extension when the Wizards had offered him a new contract earlier this summer...It wasn't a coincidence that Wall said, "I want to wait and see" around the SAME TIME that it was reported that Boogie is recruiting free agents to come play for the Pelicans.

4A. Wall has two years left on his contract. If he doesn't sign his extension, then he becomes a CP3/Paul George next summer with one year left on his contract. THIS will be the time to trade Jrue and assets for John Wall. Less teams will want to trade for Wall just because they'll be trading for an one-year rental. We will also be trading for an one-year rental in Wall. However, there's no way Pelicans wouldn't pull the trigger on Wall even for an one-year rental because WE KNOW with confidence that we will have the highest chance to sign him to an extension when his contract expires and becomes an UFA. Because guess what? He's not going to leave us with AD/Boogie/Bledsoe on the team. Remember that Kentucky blood and best friends and old college teammates thing I was talking about earlier?

4B. Now, if ANOTHER team beat us to the punch and trade for Wall as an one-year rental, then what do we do? Good. You go after Coach Cal that off-season. So, now you got Coach Cal, Boogie, Bledsoe, and AD? Two of Wall's old college teammates and his old college coach? Wall will definitely leave the team that traded for him and come play for the Pelicans. This might even be better because now you can trade Jrue for an allstar/superstar SF because of knowing that Wall is coming here.

5. After that, you go after veterans who are chasing championships and will play for the minimum.
We will then have a roster of: Wall, Bledsoe, AD, Boogie, superstar/all-star SF and maybe Coach Cal (If another team traded for Wall as an one-year rental), and veterans.

6. Championships


Step 1? Go trade for Bledsoe.

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I love the way you think!!! I am all for this!!!

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Originally Posted by jprdbulldog20

The Pacers & Monta Ellis, per league sources, are discussing a possible buyout situation. Such a deal could be done later this month.

— Nate Taylor (@ByNateTaylor) July 4, 2017

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EEEWWW! No Ellis please!

Gordon Hayward will sleep on his decision to go to Utah, Boston, or Miami, I'm told. Another July 4 declaration it is...

— Sam Amick (@sam_amick) July 4, 2017

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Originally Posted by NMThreeMVP

If you're going to have a hard cap, you should do away with minimum and maximum salaries as well.

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Sure I'd be fine with this.

Gordon Hayward will sleep on his decision to go to Utah, Boston, or Miami, I'm told. Another July 4 declaration it is...

— Sam Amick (@sam_amick) July 4, 2017

So many dominoes waiting to fall on this one https://t.co/eVnmc12G3Q

— Ramona Shelburne (@ramonashelburne) July 4, 2017

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Originally Posted by msusousaphone

The Schoolyard Beef thread. And make it the only place Buckwheat can post since he's obviously MM or a Kings troll. Lol.

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Thank you sir lol

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Originally Posted by WhyHornetsWhy

I can't be the only one checking PR every 10 minutes hoping we traded for Bledsoe LOL

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I honestly do not see Bledsoe as a possibility. My guess is that we are trying hard for someone like Lin.

Live look at Ricky Rubio outside Gordon Hayward's summer home: pic.twitter.com/BZp654rblP

— David Aldridge (@daldridgetnt) July 4, 2017

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Originally Posted by t-rex23

How appealing is having Rubio there to pitch? "I'm going to destroy our spacing and make it harder for you to create shots."

Sign me up

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Supposedly Hayward told management that he would like to play with Rubio. So, he is very appealing to Hayward.

I will out $ on it that either Wall or Westbrook will be a future Pelican. I have been consistent with telling people it's going to take time for us to put something together and we need patience. We aren't the Lakers who can change their fortune pulling in 3 players in 1 off season. A team like the Pelicans is going to take time to build and although Dell has had his bad moments he has had some very good ones as well. Landing Boogie was a big piece to what we want to build and the way we are going to have to do it. It's simply going to take time while some believe if it didn't happen last night we are doomed!! 25 teams in the NBA wish they were in the same position as we are in right now. We are 1 star away from being a dominant team that all of the super teams will have trouble matching up with. This isn't going to happen today or in the next month but over the next 2 years we can have something special. It takes patience and looking at the bigger picture. We have a serious chance to build something special over the following 2 off seasons. Yes it sucks to wait but it will be well worth it if some things fall in place our way. Like I said 25+ teams would kill to be in our position. When you look at the relationships our 2 super stars have with 2 other superstars in Westbrook/Wall then it becomes very possible we can land one of them as they will both be FAs in the next 2 FA periods. Future is very bright. Worst case scenario nothing pans out and we are able to move AD for a kings ransom. Good thing is IMO that won't be happening.

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Originally Posted by WhyHornetsWhy

I can't be the only one checking PR every 10 minutes hoping we traded for Bledsoe LOL

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I check a rotation of PR, Google search and a series of Twitter feeds about every six or so minutes.

As I said earlier, who has video of Bledsoe's wedding toasts from last weekend? Somebody had to post something. Nothing like a little fuel to the fire.

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Originally Posted by WildlifeAirGrp

I check a rotation of PR, Google search and a series of Twitter feeds about every six or so minutes.

As I said earlier, who has video of Bledsoe's wedding toasts from last weekend? Somebody had to post something. Nothing like a little fuel to the fire.

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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=s-ftGFB1d4M

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Originally Posted by WhyHornetsWhy

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=s-ftGFB1d4M

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So appropriate for them to be turning up to 'Feds did a sweep'.. "real hittas linking up.. trill hittas linking up.. link up my hitta let's link up" I'm just gon take that as foreshadowing lol