Game Thread: Lakers @ Hornets

We are winning and showing progress. We aren't the Wizards or bobcats. We actually have a crew that can win, we are just young.

Bring on the ping pong balls.

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Originally Posted by Eman5805

If that really is the case then I want Monty gone yesterday. You play to win. Bottom line. The moment a loss is a desired outcome. You're The Walking Dead. Just like Aminu. A brainless entity only out to consume and fester and rot.


Also. Thank god Game of Thrones is coming back soon...

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:hihi: put me in the mindless wonder who's glad tonight is the new Duck Dynasty episode

I hate how our fanbase is so conspiracy driven and blames the refs all the time. We suck. Face it. And our coach sucks at managing games, or is tanking on purpose, in which case he may be a secret genius.

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Originally Posted by nolaslim213

Haha, usage rate just means how much you hog the ball. So, basically, Vasquez turns into a supreme ball hog at the end of the game, which correlates directly with what we are saying about his hero ball antics. Also, a higher defensive rating is bad, so I don't know why you are pointing to his 120 DRtg as a positive haha. You lose.

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Yes. I suppose i did.

Now how about that Gordon guy? he really earned his contract tonight huh?

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Originally Posted by BallSoHard

I hate how our fanbase is so conspiracy driven and blames the refs all the time. We suck. Face it. And our coach sucks at managing games, or is tanking on purpose, in which case he may be a secret genius.

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Not all the time, but you're either blind or crazy if you don't think it exists at all.

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Originally Posted by HunnyB

I hate when the team doesn't take advantage of those kinds of situations.

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I called it when he got his 4th. I said the refs will not call howard on another foul. He got his 5th with 1 minute to play or something. Refs in the NBA influence the outcome of games far to much, and the Lakers, Thunder, and Heat are biggest beneficiaries of the system.

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Originally Posted by HunnyB

Not all the time, but you're either blind or crazy if you don't think it exists at all.

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You're either blind or crazy to think it doesn't happen to every team. I get the nba refs suck in general but I think they suck for everyone.

I feel comfortable blaming refs. Since the Tim Donaghy bit. And the Refs CBA with them fighting not to have gambling restricted in their contracts http://sports.espn.go.com/nba/news/story?id=3079309.I will gladly carry that banner if you wont.

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Originally Posted by BallSoHard

I hate how our fanbase is so conspiracy driven and blames the refs all the time. We suck. Face it. And our coach sucks at managing games, or is tanking on purpose, in which case he may be a secret genius.

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Crappy refs is a fact of sports. They get in the way at the worst times. But I don't really believe they're actively trying to force certain outcomes. I think their incompetence is just that great it works out to look that way.

We had a 22 point lead. You even heard the announcers say the Lakers were just gonna shoot 3s to get back into the game. And we did stupid crap like leaving Jodie Meeks open for 3 all game.

And it keeps happening. Take SOMETHING away. Either take away Dwight in the post or run everyone off the 3pt line. They got everything when the game mattered. And what the hell ever happened to Smite a Dwight? We have a whole fresh body just ripe to rack up fouls in the clutch in Henry Sims and force Dwight to win it from the foul line. Why not use him?

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Originally Posted by Inner_GI

I called it when he got his 4th. I said the refs will not call howard on another foul. He got his 5th with 1 minute to play or something. Refs in the NBA influence the outcome of games far to much, and the Lakers, Thunder, and Heat are biggest beneficiaries of the system.

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Yes. If I didn't like the game of basketball so much I probably wouldn't watch at all. I do ask myself often though why do I even bother. I told myself this morning that the Lakers will not be allowed to lose to the Hornets after losing to OKC last night. I posted in the thread when the team was up a sizeable margin that I would not allow myself to get excited. I kind of was getting excited anyway though and look what happened.

Why is it that when a rookie is fouled, people say 'oh, rookies don't get that call'. Why not? If it's a foul, why not call it, whether he's a rook or a 10 year vet. Why not call it? That's a bunch of crock. On Sunday when the Knicks were playing the Heat, James White got called for 2 quick, silly fouls. Jeff Van Gundy said he got those fouls because the refs looked at him and said "I don't know who you are". LMBO. What kind of crap is that?

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Originally Posted by Eman5805

Crappy refs is a fact of sports. They get in the way at the worst times. But I don't really believe they're actively trying to force certain outcomes. I think their incompetence is just that great it works out to look that way.

We had a 22 point lead. You even heard the announcers say the Lakers were just gonna shoot 3s to get back into the game. And we did stupid crap like leaving Jodie Meeks open for 3 all game.

And it keeps happening. Take SOMETHING away. Either take away Dwight in the post or run everyone off the 3pt line. They got everything when the game mattered. And what the hell ever happened to Smite a Dwight? We have a whole fresh body just ripe to rack up fouls in the clutch in Henry Sims and force Dwight to win it from the foul line. Why not use him?

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I approve this message. Lets point out the fact that during that 20-0 run, we could have had a guy shoot from half court for all of those possessions and make one thus altering the game differently. One made basket before 2 minute mark changes the outlook of the game drastically. Did the out of bounds call have impeccable timing ? Sure. Do the refs have a buzzer that goes off if Utah loses to make la lose ? No. Us not scoring and failing to play d is what lost the game.

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Originally Posted by UNO Gracias

Yes. I suppose i did.

Now how about that Gordon guy? he really earned his contract tonight huh?

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Gordon is still rusty. You can see it. Monty and Gordon both admitted it the other day. Nobody is claiming Gordon is setting the world on fire. In fact, Monty said that Gordon is knocking the rust off this season, and he expects him to break out next season for us. So, again... You lose.


On a side note, River was +16, and Davis was +6. The next closest relevant player was Aminu at -2, and Vasquez led the tank with -18.

Yay Vasquez!!!

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Originally Posted by BallSoHard

You're either blind or crazy to think it doesn't happen to every team. I get the nba refs suck in general but I think they suck for everyone.

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I didn't say it didn't happen to every team. I'm sure it does. It still might happen to more than it does to others though. But you're crazy if you think Donaghy was the only one. I still ask myself to this day why the league didn't do something about Scott Foster when Donaghy placed countless calls to him before and after many games. I don't think he was doing that because they were bff's.

ETA: I didn't totally place all blame on the refs tonight. Monty killed this game.

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Originally Posted by nolaslim213

Gordon is still rusty. You can see it. Monty and Gordon both admitted it the other day. Nobody is claiming Gordon is setting the world on fire. In fact, Monty said that Gordon is knocking the rust off this season, and he expects him to break out next season for us. So, again... You lose.


On a side note, River was +16, and Davis was +6. The next closest relevant player was Aminu at -2, and Vasquez led the tank with -18.

Yay Vasquez!!!

:hihi:

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Yeah, I suppose I do lose.

You want to beat the drum anymore or change the subject?

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Originally Posted by HunnyB

I didn't say it didn't happen to every team. I'm sure it does. It still might happen to more than it does to others though. But you're crazy if you think Donaghy was the only one. I still ask myself to this day why the league didn't do something about Scott Foster when Donaghy placed countless calls to him before and after many games. I don't think he was doing that because they were bff's.

ETA: I didn't totally place all blame on the refs tonight. Monty killed this game.

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Oh I think it's proven about the refs but I don't think widespread game changing calls based off of point shavings are prevalent in today's nba.

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Originally Posted by nolaslim213

Gordon is still rusty. You can see it. Monty and Gordon both admitted it the other day. Nobody is claiming Gordon is setting the world on fire. In fact, Monty said that Gordon is knocking the rust off this season, and he expects him to break out next season for us. So, again... You lose.


On a side note, River was +16, and Davis was +6. The next closest relevant player was Aminu at -2, and Vasquez led the tank with -18.

Yay Vasquez!!!

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Lol Nola, u know that's stats aren't fair to use ESP tonight.

ESP when the entire team sucked it up.

I swear, I saw a straw at center court, and every guy on the team took 5 min sucking from it.

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Originally Posted by BallSoHard

Oh I think it's proven about the refs but I don't think widespread game changing calls based off of point shavings are prevalent in today's nba.

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Well good. Keep on keeping the faith.

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Originally Posted by Deuce06

Lol that's the measure of a "true fan"?

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No it's not but if ur gonna come on here and argue points about a team I'd like to think u would know what this team has done in last couple years specifically the year ur gonna argue about...smdh

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Originally Posted by UNO Gracias

Yeah, I suppose I do lose.

You want to beat the drum anymore or change the subject?

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Hey man, I'm good with not talking Vasquez anymore. It seems like you or someone else brings him up in every thread though, and once I see it, it's hard for me to ignore it.

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Originally Posted by BallSoHard

Lol Nola, u know that's stats aren't fair to use ESP tonight.

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Haha ;)

Actually, I didn't bring up GV until somebody else was asking me why I wasn't talking about him (during a point in the game when he was doing well).

I didn't feel it was necessary then, and I don't feel its necessary now. I am trying to help improve the conversation on this board.

But enough about me, what about you? I see from your avatar you like {mod edit}:hihi:

Oh boy.

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Originally Posted by UNO Gracias

Actually, I didn't bring up GV until somebody else was asking me why I wasn't talking about him (during a point in the game when he was doing well).

I didn't feel it was necessary then, and I don't feel its necessary now. I am trying to help improve the conversation on this board.

But enough about me, what about you? I see from your avatar you like {mod edit}:hihi:

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That's cold man haha. For real though, I saw that, and thought it was a crazy premonition that they were both on an old cover listed as the "future" of the NBA. Top prospects coming out of high school, and we got them both? Still pinching myself...

That is pretty crazy (wasn't AR the #1 prospect at the time?). At least your just pinching yourself having the top 2 prospects on your team, Monty is crapping the bed with them on his.

Who knows, maybe this draft we will land Shabazz and have this last recruiting class' #1 player.

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Originally Posted by UNO Gracias

That is pretty crazy (wasn't AR the #1 prospect at the time?).

Who knows, maybe this draft we will land Shabazz and have this last recruiting class' #1 player.

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Yea with how ar is improving I'm sold on drafting sf or Len at C. Only Len if we r gonna draft C other wise draft sf which has quite a few to choose from.