Pelicans finalizing trade for Asik

I respect being a family man. But being a family man doesn't include alienating a team/fanbase right before you even gave it a shot.

So has this deal went down yet? or did it fall through?

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Originally Posted by LouisianaPride

I respect being a family man. But being a family man doesn't include alienating a team/fanbase right before you even gave it a shot.

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Perhaps, but there is also the concept of "turning the other cheek" and being the bigger person.

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Originally Posted by Pelican Tech

So has this deal went down yet? or did it fall through?

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expected to happen just after midnight tonight

Midnight local or midnight eastern? Just want to time my nap properly.

Gordon is better than anything we can get on the market. It makes no sense to trade him unless another team is willing to gamble on him and not take any significant assets from us. People let their hate blind them instead of seeing what's best for the team.

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Originally Posted by David Fisher

Midnight local or midnight eastern? Just want to time my nap properly.

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well then... I'd assume eastern... but I'm not sure... and we'd have to go back through this thread


where's MM or Mason et al

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Originally Posted by David Fisher

Midnight local or midnight eastern? Just want to time my nap properly.

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League offices are in New York, so Eastern time.

Who in the West to this point has made a bigger addition/improvement than Pels' add of Asik?


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Originally Posted by LetsGeauxPels

Who in the West to this point has made a bigger addition/improvement than Pels' add of Asik?


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Probably the Mavs adding Chandler and potentially Parsons.

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Originally Posted by LetsGeauxPels

Who in the West to this point has made a bigger addition/improvement than Pels' add of Asik?


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Spurs... on the fact that none of their big guys retired as some hoped/expected

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Originally Posted by itsADstime

Probably the Mavs adding Chandler and potentially Parsons.

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I'll take Asik over TC at this point, just my opinion


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Originally Posted by LetsGeauxPels

I'll take Asik over TC at this point, just my opinion


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I would too, but that is really the only other team that improved.

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Originally Posted by LetsGeauxPels

I'll take Asik over TC at this point, just my opinion


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That's no add/improve... Not saying Asik pushes us past Spurs, just it's an improvement, closes gap


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The team went from jason smith to omer asik, we improved 10 fold.

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Originally Posted by HornetGuru

The team went from jason smith to omer asik, we improved 10 fold.

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Umm... Excuse me? We went from WHO???

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So I guess we will hear soon a s&t involving Roberts for Charlottes newly acquired Scotty Hopson?
This will be the final piece to the Asik trade.

So I know I'm getting a little impatient maybe but can we expect to hear something at 12:01 am or will it be tomorrow Sometime ??

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Originally Posted by AUSSIE_PELICAN

So I guess we will hear soon a s&t involving Roberts for Charlottes newly acquired Scotty Hopson?
This will be the final piece to the Asik trade.

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or are we waiting for CHA to waive Hopson?

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Originally Posted by rt0307

or are we waiting for CHA to waive Hopson?

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Sorry but how does that help us?

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Originally Posted by AUSSIE_PELICAN

Sorry but how does that help us?

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I was of the understanding that CHA was going to just waive Hopson... then we sign him to an unguaranteed and use it in the trade


guess I heard wrong... which is completely likely

Can't wait to see who will be our Steisma at the three this year.


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MM is the reason we hate Gordon? Okay I wasn't getting involved but now I have to say something. Shut up.

If you haven't met Gordon in person like some of us here have then you have no idea what you are talking about. And if you respect the opinions of people who are consistently on the right side of things then I'm not telling you to hate Gordon but maybe try to understand that there are reasons that the rest of us do.

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Originally Posted by JJackisangry

Gordon is better than anything we can get on the market. It makes no sense to trade him unless another team is willing to gamble on him and not take any significant assets from us. People let their hate blind them instead of seeing what's best for the team.

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Thats the thing, if I though he was what was best for the team that would be fine. I dont. There is also nothing blind nor is there hate. I wish people would know the difference between "hate" and not not wanting the guy on the team

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Originally Posted by rt0307

I was of the understanding that CHA was going to just waive Hopson... then we sign him to an unguaranteed and use it in the trade


guess I heard wrong... which is completely likely

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Why?
Charlotte supposedly had interest in Roberts.
We agree to a sign and trade.
They get Roberts and we get Hopson.

Then send out the non guaranteed contracts of Ely, Gee and Hopson for Asik.
This way we can keep Ajinca and Babbitt if we choose.

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Originally Posted by LouisianaPride

Thats the thing, if I though he was what was best for the team that would be fine. I dont. There is also nothing blind nor is their hate. I wish people would know the difference between "hate" and not not wanting the guy on the team

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So if we dump Gordon, who can we sign that will be better for the team?

I wouldn't wait until 12:01 if people we wondering. It won't be something hugely exciting.

Non-guaranteed contracts (one more that will be acquired before then) for Asik. That's it. Then the hunt for a SF continues, but that might take some time as the musical chairs is still going on at that position.

Just relax peeps. Talk about Asik more and what he can bring. Our SL guys. The possibilities in the backcourt and Withey vs. Ajinca.

There are 12-13 solid guys on the team. Let's talk more about them.

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Originally Posted by HoustonPelicans

So if we dump Gordon, who can we sign that will be better for the team?

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I personally wouldnt want anything back. As I said before, rather have room to add a quality 3 + bench players. Getting rid of one of the worst contracts is value in itself. But I guess people want to paint that as "hate".

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Originally Posted by MichaelMcNamara

I wouldn't wait until 12:01 if people we wondering. It won't be something hugely exciting.

Non-guaranteed contracts (one more that will be acquired before then) for Asik. That's it. Then the hunt for a SF continues, but that might take some time as the musical chairs is still going on at that position.

Just relax peeps. Talk about Asik more and what he can bring. Our SL guys. The possibilities in the backcourt and Withey vs. Ajinca.

There are 12-13 solid guys on the team. Let's talk more about them.

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Yay MM!! :D

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Originally Posted by MichaelMcNamara

I wouldn't wait until 12:01 if people we wondering. It won't be something hugely exciting.

Non-guaranteed contracts (one more that will be acquired before then) for Asik. That's it. Then the hunt for a SF continues, but that might take some time as the musical chairs is still going on at that position.

Just relax peeps. Talk about Asik more and what he can bring. Our SL guys. The possibilities in the backcourt and Withey vs. Ajinca.

There are 12-13 solid guys on the team. Let's talk more about them.

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Its Hopson for Roberts isnt it?

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Originally Posted by LouisianaPride

I personally wouldnt want anything back. As I said before, rather have room to add a quality 3 + bench players. Getting rid of one of the worst contracts is value in itself. But I guess people want to paint that as "hate".

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That's what I'm asking you. What players could we add in free agency that would be better for the team than Gordon?

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Originally Posted by HoustonPelicans

That's what I'm asking you. What players could we add in free agency that would be better for the team than Gordon?

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And im saying, pick and choose anyone. I prefer flexability > player in this case. Pick any lower level guy. Yes, he may not be as "talented" as EG. But what does that even matter if we get a service able guy that gives us 70+ game. Talent doesnt matter when its rotting on the benxh

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Originally Posted by LouisianaPride

And im saying, pick and choose anyone. I prefer flexability > player in this case. Pick any lower level guy. Yes, he may not be as "talented" as EG. But what does that even matter if we get a service able guy that gives us 70+ game. Talent doesnt matter when its rotting on the benxh

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Flexibility to do what? Cap space does nothing for you when there's nobody to sign. Gordon at least gave us 15 ppg in 64 games last season.

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Originally Posted by MichaelMcNamara

I wouldn't wait until 12:01 if people we wondering. It won't be something hugely exciting.

Non-guaranteed contracts (one more that will be acquired before then) for Asik. That's it. Then the hunt for a SF continues, but that might take some time as the musical chairs is still going on at that position.

Just relax peeps. Talk about Asik more and what he can bring. Our SL guys. The possibilities in the backcourt and Withey vs. Ajinca.

There are 12-13 solid guys on the team. Let's talk more about them.

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MM, how do you feel about Withey, referring to his lack of facial hair? Is he too clean looking? Should he grow a beard or at least get some scruff? Will he appear more intimidating? Your thoughts please?

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Originally Posted by HoustonPelicans

Flexibility to do what? Cap space does nothing for you when there's nobody to sign. Gordon at least gave us 15 ppg in 64 games last season.

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You dont have to spend it. Save it for next year. Do you think the odds are he can give us that again? I dont. So we dont have guys to spend on this year so get a guy next year. Id also not like to have this guy on the books as it gets closer to extend Davis.

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Originally Posted by JunkHead

MM, how do you feel about Withey, referring to his lack of facial hair? Is he too clean looking? Should he grow a beard or at least get some scruff? Will he appear more intimidating? Your thoughts please?

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I definitely feel like he needs to grow his beard back. 1 vote for beard.

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Originally Posted by JrueDat

I definitely feel like he needs to grow his beard back. 1 vote for beard.

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OOOOH! A face tattoo!!

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Originally Posted by LouisianaPride

You dont have to spend it. Save it for next year. Do you think the odds are he can give us that again? I dont. So we dont have guys to spend on this year so get a guy next year. Id also not like to have this guy on the books as it gets closer to extend Davis.

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Well there is a possibility he opts out of his contract, so what would be the difference? We would still get the cap space next year. I guess I would rather have a guy that could help us this year than some pretty cap space to look at.

Fair enough. Ultimatly we all want the same thing. Just worried he wont opt out.

The good thing about keeping Gordon is the Gravy train is about to end so he needs to show he's worth another contract like he got with us. Who knows what the landscape will look like around the trade deadline. Some teams might want him before he becomes an expiring. In the meanwhile though i'd like to at least have a decent 3, while keeping our main guys. I don't think the exception is going to get us much with the way the market is right now.


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Noticed that Ajinca was on the SL bench yesterday for the game. Thought it was odd since many on here have been including him in the Asik deal. Considering we obviously told Babbitt not to report and that he's going to be traded, would be shocked if Ajinca goes.

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Originally Posted by RhythmNathan

MM is the reason we hate Gordon? Okay I wasn't getting involved but now I have to say something. Shut up.

If you haven't met Gordon in person like some of us here have then you have no idea what you are talking about. And if you respect the opinions of people who are consistently on the right side of things then I'm not telling you to hate Gordon but maybe try to understand that there are reasons that the rest of us do.

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I never said "don't hate him." I said don't let hate cloud your judgement. (If this was not aimed at me I apologize)

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Originally Posted by LouisianaPride

Thats the thing, if I though he was what was best for the team that would be fine. I dont. There is also nothing blind nor is there hate. I wish people would know the difference between "hate" and not not wanting the guy on the team

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Sorry, but reading comments on here you think Gordon intentionally ran over a pack of orphaned puppies. If you think it's incredibly harmful that he is even on our roster (when MM pretty much assured us he would opt out) then fine. I will strongly disagree, but you are entitled to your opinion.

I kind of think it is insulting to say that I make up others' minds for them. Granted, I have been very outspoken about how this team needs to do whatever it takes to get Eric Gordon's CONTRACT off this cap. I don't hate the MAN at all. It's just that we have two better guards that need the minutes and that 15 mil could be better served filling another need.

But if he is here, I will be pulling hard for him. And I even have been trying to convince people that he will be the starting SG next year. I pull for anybody in that jersey, but I still believe that 15 mil would be better served on a guy with more length on the wing.

I want to say my decision to not like Gordon on the team in strictly my personal opinion. MM had nothing to do with it. I don't hate the guy personally because I never meet nor do I want him to have any career ending injuries. I just would MUCH rather have Evans starting at SG and Gordon to either let his ego and put the team first and come off the bench or go somewhere where he is happy. He clearly doesn't want to be in NOLA since he was traded there, and that's why I don't want him on the team. It's nothing personal, and MM had nothing to do my opinion.

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Originally Posted by JunkHead

MM, how do you feel about Withey, referring to his lack of facial hair? Is he too clean looking? Should he grow a beard or at least get some scruff? Will he appear more intimidating? Your thoughts please?

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I wanna see him go blond and spike it and try to look like Ivan Drago. There are a lot of similarities there. Just go all in. Check into games and tell opposing bigs, "I must break you." When there are other players rumored to have covered up gray hair, he can say, "If he dies, he dies."

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Originally Posted by MichaelMcNamara

I wanna see him go blond and spike it and try to look like Ivan Drago. There are a lot of similarities there. Just go all in. Check into games and tell opposing bigs, "I must break you." When there are other players rumored to have covered up gray hair, he can say, "If he dies, he dies."

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I can get behind this. 100%.

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Originally Posted by MichaelMcNamara

I wouldn't wait until 12:01 if people we wondering. It won't be something hugely exciting.

Non-guaranteed contracts (one more that will be acquired before then) for Asik. That's it. Then the hunt for a SF continues, but that might take some time as the musical chairs is still going on at that position.

Just relax peeps. Talk about Asik more and what he can bring. Our SL guys. The possibilities in the backcourt and Withey vs. Ajinca.

There are 12-13 solid guys on the team. Let's talk more about them.

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Just a quick question. Is this trade being expanded into something bigger, maybe a third team where the pick would be routed for Houston or will the Rockets be settling on a TPE + the draft pick? Thanks MM.

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Originally Posted by treyk

Just a quick question. Is this trade being expanded into something bigger, maybe a third team where the pick would be routed for Houston or will the Rockets be settling on a TPE + the draft pick? Thanks MM.

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Not unless something changes. The deal, as of this morning, was non-guaranteed contracts and the pick for Asik and 1.5 mil. Dell used cap room to get the NG'ed contracts, so all he will have left is the Room Exception to land a SF. But there is incredible depth at the other 4 positions.

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Originally Posted by MichaelMcNamara

Not unless something changes. The deal, as of this morning, was non-guaranteed contracts and the pick for Asik and 1.5 mil. Dell used cap room to get the NG'ed contracts, so all he will have left is the Room Exception to land a SF. But there is incredible depth at the other 4 positions.

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Thanks for the reply. Hope you guys find a good SF with Room Exception. The SW is going to be a fun division next season for sure.