Pelicans to meet with Tyreke Evans (offer has been made)

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Originally Posted by Nola Hornet

In the grand scheme of things, "per year" is pointless for a guy his age. It would be unrealistic for Iggy to command 7 mil after that contract is up. Denver has all the advantage.

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I see what you're saying

Andre will still be good at 32/33.

As for the offers given to Iggy I guess it all depends on who gets the options and when.
A team option 5th year is probably not as important as 1.5M/year ... a player option though is something clearly different.

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Originally Posted by Alvis

As for the offers given to Iggy I guess it all depends on who gets the options and when.
A team option 5th year is probably not as important as 1.5M/year ... a player option though is something clearly different.

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Very good point. If Denver's offer gives them the right to the option, then the Kings deal will obviously be better.

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Originally Posted by NMThreeMVP

We're getting Deng. That's happening.

I just haven't figured out if we're keeping him or if it will be a three way.

Deal makes too much sense not to happen. Chicago can limit Gordon's minutes til playoffs. They have Butler and just signed Dunlevey at SF. Before the draft, Deng and Gordon were both "very available", now you don't hear anything about either. Gordon and Rose are former teammates. Bulls just released Rip Hamilton. We've got a $44m offer out to a 23 year old SG...

Tea leaves...

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No it's not. It's not only Gordon's minutes they have to worry about. There is another guy coming off a serious injury and probably won't be 100% until sometime in 2015. You've heard of him. Remember how Paul looked his first year back?

Get this straight. They are NOT giving up Deng to rely on TWO broken guards.

Arent state taxes high in CA?

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Originally Posted by Broadmoor74

Arent state taxes high in CA?

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Yes but it's not as simple as people make it sound with the no state tax thing.

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Originally Posted by Broadmoor74

Arent state taxes high in CA?

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10.30%

I posted this in the "free agent" thread but this goes here as well...

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David Aldridge @daldridgetnt 1 minute ago

Confirming @Adrian Wojnarowski report: 4 yr/$56M offer to @Andre Iguodala by SAC. Iguodala deciding after "great meetings" w/DET, HOU, GS, ATL, per source

Read more: http://hoopshype.com/twitter/media.html#ixzz2Xww9MKHs

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SAC is stepping up for Iggy... which means they have all but given up on Reke.

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Originally Posted by DroopyDawg

I posted this in the "free agent" thread but this goes here as well...



SAC is stepping up for Iggy... which means they have all but given up on Reke.

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But if they fail to land Iggy, they can 'un-give up' on him

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Originally Posted by MonsterMash

But if they fail to land Iggy, they can 'un-give up' on him

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That's why I used the words "all but".

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Originally Posted by luckyman

No it's not. It's not only Gordon's minutes they have to worry about. There is another guy coming off a serious injury and probably won't be 100% until sometime in 2015. You've heard of him. Remember how Paul looked his first year back?

Get this straight. They are NOT giving up Deng to rely on TWO broken guards.

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They've got Deng's repliedacement in Butler. It's plausible.Make that deal yesterday IMO.

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Originally Posted by MonsterMash

They've got Deng's repliedacement in Butler. It's plausible.Make that deal yesterday IMO.

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Thats not a Deng replacement. Thats a super sub to give you a boost in spurts.

If Dell were to pull that off, he'd be the Michael Jordan of GMs and Chicago all of a sudden went brain dead.

Adrian Wojnarowski ‏@WojYahooNBA 2m
Y! Sources: With a $56 million offer, Sacramento has emerged as a frontrunner for free agent Andre Iguodala. http://tinyurl.com/l6sttr4

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Originally Posted by Bee-Fense

Adrian Wojnarowski ‏@WojYahooNBA 2m
Y! Sources: With a $56 million offer, Sacramento has emerged as a frontrunner for free agent Andre Iguodala. http://tinyurl.com/l6sttr4

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Told ya Iggy will go to the highest bidder.

"A frontrunner", not "the frontrunner." Sounds like speculation by Woj.

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Originally Posted by Topdawg26

Told ya Iggy will go to the highest bidder.

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I do wonder if he is still scheduled to visit any more teams? I would like to see him agree before the night is over.

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Originally Posted by Adrian Wojnarowski

Iguodala, 29, has an initial five-year offer to return to the Nuggets, but it is below the Kings' unexpectedly aggressive bid for him, league sources told Y! Sports.

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So from this quote, it doesn't seem like he's implying the overall offer from Denver isn't as good as Sacramento's offer. Maybe the 63mil number was off.

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Originally Posted by luckyman

Thats not a Deng replacement. Thats a super sub to give you a boost in spurts.

If Dell were to pull that off, he'd be the Michael Jordan of GMs and Chicago all of a sudden went brain dead.

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Butler is easily good enough to start in this league.

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Originally Posted by Nola Hornet

I do wonder if he is still scheduled to visit any more teams? I would like to see him agree before the night is over.



So from this quote, it doesn't seem like he's implying the overall offer from Denver isn't as good as Sacramento's offer. Maybe the 63mil number was off.

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56/4 = 14mil/yr

63/5 = 12.6mil/ yr.

More money per year from Sac. That 5th year from Denver is basically 7mil. I'm sure at 33 Iggy can sign another 2/3 year deal worth more than that. Honestly the Sac deal gives him more money and a chance at the end of it to get another short deal making better cash.

65 pages o' nothing.

I love the offseason!

You know I was thinking that perhaps it is Gordon who will come off the bench as the Manu-style player. Maybe that is why Reke is on board. That could've been the secret pitch. Reke as the starter and Gordon as the shooter.

That's if he isn't traded for half of a roast beef sandwich with extra pickles.

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Originally Posted by Mythrol

56/4 = 14mil/yr

63/5 = 12.6mil/ yr.

More money per year from Sac. That 5th year from Denver is basically 7mil. I'm sure at 33 Iggy can sign another 2/3 year deal worth more than that. Honestly the Sac deal gives him more money and a chance at the end of it to get another short deal making better cash.

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I see it as a gamble since he'll actually be 34 by the end of the deal. 7 million at 34/35 is a lot of money for wing at that age. If he believes he can command an overall better deal at that age, more power to him. Looks good for Sacramento right now so I'm content.

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Originally Posted by JrueDat

You know I was thinking that perhaps it is Gordon who will come off the bench as the Manu-style player. Maybe that is why Reke is on board. That could've been the secret pitch. Reke as the starter and Gordon as the shooter.

That's if he isn't traded for half of a roast beef sandwich with extra pickles.

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I was starting to think the exact same thing. But one makes 13.7 mil and the other 11. I'd think the one making 13.7 starts until...

Will say this much on reported offer to Andre Iguodala from Kings (4 yrs, $56 mil, per Yahoo): there's a limit to Denver's love for him.

Idea of being tax team after 1st-round playoff loss not appealing.There are other suitors,but this likely enough for Kings to beat out Den

Via sam amick twitter

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Originally Posted by JrueDat

You know I was thinking that perhaps it is Gordon who will come off the bench as the Manu-style player. Maybe that is why Reke is on board. That could've been the secret pitch. Reke as the starter and Gordon as the shooter.

That's if he isn't traded for half of a roast beef sandwich with extra pickles.

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Gordon's not coming off the bench bruh.

Bid more Sacramento! More!

:hihi:

After tyreke accepts tomorrow hopefully can we bid for a sf? Because copeland "is waiting on an offer from indy" and i'd like to get in on that before the SF market is dried up completely.

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Originally Posted by The Pelican Fan

After tyreke accepts tomorrow hopefully can we bid for a sf? Because copeland "is waiting on an offer from indy" and i'd like to get in on that before the SF market is dried up completely.

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Accept what tomorrow?

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Originally Posted by BeeBall Reasons

He'll turn it down. Nuggets gave him 5 years 63, He won't get more than 7 million 4 seasons from now.

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How old was Paul Pierce when he signed his most recent contract?

Hell, the MLE in 4yrs is likely to start at $7m...

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Originally Posted by Vinny6420

Accept what tomorrow?

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I meant verbally accepts our offer.

Best case scenario: Kings renounce Evans bird rights to sign Iggy and allow the Pelicans to sign him without worry about the Kings matching and allowing Demps to pursue other deals.

Sometimes it takes a couple rounds before the top FAs decide to sign. Hope we keep our bid before the deadline at 8pm

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Originally Posted by Nola Hornet

Best case scenario: Kings renounce Evans bird rights to sign Iggy and allow the Pelicans to sign him without worry about the Kings matching and allowing Demps to pursue other deals.

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Yup, hopefully Denver backs down.

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Originally Posted by luckyman

No it's not. It's not only Gordon's minutes they have to worry about. There is another guy coming off a serious injury and probably won't be 100% until sometime in 2015. You've heard of him. Remember how Paul looked his first year back?

Get this straight. They are NOT giving up Deng to rely on TWO broken guards.

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You do realize Rose got hurt in Spring 2012, right? He coulda come back this year, but sat out all year to make sure he came back ready. You think it's going to take him 3 YEARS to recover??

Gordon gave the "hornets" more last year than the Bulls got from their SG position, and the Bulls still made the playoffs without Rose.

They pushed the Heat in Playoffs without Deng or Rose and have 3 other SFs on roster: Butler, Dunlevey and Snell -their first round pick.

So why wouldn't they trade Deng, who is a free agent and can leave anyway after this season, for Rose's former AAU teammate!???

Tea leaves...

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Originally Posted by IamQuailman

Sometimes it takes a couple rounds before the top FAs decide to sign. Hope we keep our bid before the deadline at 8pm

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Well played my friend well played

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Jeff Rabjohns

Before Derrick Rose and Eric Gordon were emerging stars in the NBA, they were teammates.

Very talented teammates.

They were so good together during the summer of 2006, some still refer to it as "The Eric and Derrick Show."

Two of the nation's elite guards, Indianapolis' Gordon and Chicago's Rose, formed a stellar backcourt and were one of the nation's top summer AAU teams, almost by themselves.

"It was stupid good," ESPN recruiting analyst Dave Telep said. "While it was going on, you knew those guys were that good. You knew how special it was to have them together.

"It was a foregone conclusion that these were two professional players hanging out together for a summer. It was as high level as a summer backcourt could possibly be."

Both are now in their third year in the NBA. Rose, who averaged 25 points this season in powering the Bulls to the best record in the Eastern Conference, has Chicago up 3-0 on the Indiana Pacers in a first-round playoff matchup that resumes today at Conseco Fieldhouse. Gordon averaged 22.3 points for the Los Angeles Clippers.

The two played together on a team called Meanstreets, coached by Derrick's brother, Reggie Rose. The team won the prestigious Peach Jam in South Carolina and finished runner-up in the summer-ending tournament in Las Vegas in late July.

The team usually had only six or seven players. Gordon, who became the Indianapolis Star Indiana Mr. Basketball in 2007, and Rose, Mr. Basketball in Illinois the same year, typically played every minute.

"We just played well together," said Gordon, who attended Thursday's Game 3 of the Pacers-Bulls series. "At that time, we just wanted to show people that we're trying to be the best out there. We jelled together. We both played up-tempo games and loved to attack the basket.'

The two regularly scored 30 points or more, sometimes in the same game.

In the championship game of the Peach Jam, they beat an SYF team that included most of the players who led Purdue's recent run -- Robbie Hummel, JaJuan Johnson and E'Twaun Moore, in addition to Notre Dame's Scott Martin.

"We both had close to 40 points that game," Gordon said. "And we both had a lot of dunks."

The two played their natural positions, Rose at point guard, Gordon at shooting guard.

"That was fun," Rose said Friday as the Bulls readied for practice at IUPUI. "We were two guys that just wanted to play basketball all out, that don't show much emotion on the court.

"It was great standing back and watching him score the ball. I always loved his game, even when our high schools played, but it was great playing with him in AAU."

The two played against each only once in high school. Gordon had 32 points, five assists and three steals as North Central beat Chicago Simeon 68-66 in the Challenge of Champions at Southport High School. Rose was held to six points on 2-for-11 shooting.

Together, they were nearly unstoppable.

"Our games fit each other," Rose said.

"He's a scorer and shooter. I was just feeding him. He made my job easy. We really had a great time. I'm still friends with him and his dad."

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I really think it's time we start considering how Jrue, Evans, and Deng fit on the court and how good this team can be next season with those three.

I hope for your sake all of this goes down. Otherwise you're going to look pretty dumb.

Damn it...wake me up when someone signs....

Btw I wanted Chase Budigner :(

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Originally Posted by The Pelican Fan

After tyreke accepts tomorrow hopefully can we bid for a sf? Because copeland "is waiting on an offer from indy" and i'd like to get in on that before the SF market is dried up completely.

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Just a reminder ... with what money/cap space exactly are we supposed to do that? (yeah I know we have exceptions anyway but we still lack cap space for the Evans signing).
Tyreke's offer is not the only thing that needs to happen. We have to trade too.
Hopefully, those trades are ready and we are just waiting for Reke's approval to make them official.
And then after those trades, we aren't even sure if the Pels have to target SFs, Cs, SGs or whatever.

Basically, you are asking "when are we going to do something that may be irrelevent the day we are able to do it."

I can't wait for the Evans domino to fall, not because I want us to go after some FA that has received offers already but because that's when we are going to stop speculating about Vasquez/Lopez/Gordon and see what is the team plan for them (and our future needs for FA).

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Originally Posted by Alvis

Just a reminder ... with what money/cap space exactly are we supposed to do that? (yeah I know we have exceptions anyway but we still lack cap space for the Evans signing).
Tyreke's offer is not the only thing that needs to happen. We have to trade too.
Hopefully, those trades are ready and we are just waiting for Reke's approval to make them official.
And then after those trades, we aren't even sure if the Pels have to target SFs, Cs, SGs or whatever.

Basically, you are asking "when are we going to do something that may be irrelevent the day we are able to do it."

I can't wait for the Evans domino to fall, not because I want us to go after some FA that has received offers already but because that's when we are going to stop speculating about Vasquez/Lopez/Gordon and see what is the team plan for them (and our future needs for FA).

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That's true but i was just curious because after that domino falls we will need a SF and a C.

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Originally Posted by The Pelican Fan

That's true but i was just curious because after that domino falls we will need a SF and a C.

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We dont NEED a C, nor a SF, we arent competing for it all right now.... and we still have Vasquez who is a valuable trade chip

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Originally Posted by donato

I hope for your sake all of this goes down. Otherwise you're going to look pretty dumb.

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Why would I look dumb?
If I can't toss out random theories and trade predictions here... Where can I?

We do but we have trades in the work that are supposed to give us something too so they don't have to be FAs.
What I'm saying is that looking at those SF FAs that are signing contracts and that we would have loved here is pretty moot for now.

Sure it is annoying but we can't do anything but wait for now and hope that the trades Dell is working on (or those undisclosed) give us good solutions. It's only when those trades are a sure thing that we will know what we can offer and what we still need so I don't expect us to be really active with FAs for quite some time after Reke's decision honestly.

Anyone know the significance of AI's tweets just now that McNamara just retweeted?

They were something like "WOW" and "Really?! Ok MOTIVATION."

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Originally Posted by NMThreeMVP

Why would I look dumb?

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Arrogance. Basically stating opinions as inevitable facts.

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Originally Posted by saintsinNO

Anyone know the significance of AI's tweets just now that McNamara just retweeted?

They were something like "WOW" and "Really?! Ok MOTIVATION."

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No clue lol

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Originally Posted by saintsinNO

Anyone know the significance of AI's tweets just now that McNamara just retweeted?

They were something like "WOW" and "Really?! Ok MOTIVATION."

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Trying to figure it out. Sounds like he was insulted no?

I and McNamara both think that Denver told him that they arent gonna offer him as much as the Kings

Maybe because he read some tweets like that:

@kpelton Kevin Pelton
Andre Iguodala is the overwhelming leader in the clubhouse for this year's "Good player, bad contract" award.

@RoyceWebb Royce Webb, ESPN NBA
Love Iguodala but why do the Kings want to move up to 11th in the West?

Nate Duncan @NateDuncanNBA

Iguodala isn't going to be worth $14 mm THIS season, his age 30 season. What about when he's 33? He relies a lot on athleticism too.

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Originally Posted by Vinny6420

I and McNamara both think that Denver told him that they arent gonna offer him as much as the Kings

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Interesting. If that's the case then welcome to New Orleans Mr. Evans.