Draft Prospects Discussion

If it's between Valentine and Korkmaz at #15, I'm going with Korkmaz.

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Originally Posted by HornetGuru

honestly i'd have no problem with this, and plus with valentine's new measurements, he is plenty big enough to play SF.

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Where are his new measurements?

If Valentine measures bigger then what we expect I would draft him in a heartbeat. If he has the size to play SF he could be a perfect fit for us. Valentine reminds me a lot of Evan Turner. I think he will be a very similiar player in the NBA which isn't a bad thing. Should have a better 3 point shot but might not be as athletic.

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Originally Posted by N.O.Bronco

Where are his new measurements?

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they were in a TBW article.

http://www.thebirdwrites.com/2016/3/...ld-murray-dunn
Back Court Measureables

http://www.thebirdwrites.com/2016/3/...s-ingram-brown
Front Court Measureables

Valentine has the height I thought he would but his wingspan is impressive. He has the body to play SF and I wouldn't mind playing him there. Ingram has a ridiculous wingspan and is going to be a terror defensively in the NBA. That kid would be so perfect for this team. Going to be very similiar Kevin Durant offensively but a better defender IMO. Coach K says he could be the teams PG if he played him there and I don't doubt it. Simmons is still my favorite player in this draft but Ingram is right there behind him.

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Originally Posted by PortPelican

Let's add Thon Maker into the mix.

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What a name he has. I'd be on board with adding him solely because of his name.

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Originally Posted by GuardianAngel25

Valentine has the height I thought he would but his wingspan is impressive. He has the body to play SF and I wouldn't mind playing him there. Ingram has a ridiculous wingspan and is going to be a terror defensively in the NBA. That kid would be so perfect for this team. Going to be very similiar Kevin Durant offensively but a better defender IMO. Coach K says he could be the teams PG if he played him there and I don't doubt it. Simmons is still my favorite player in this draft but Ingram is right there behind him.

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Ingram is my dream pick.

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Originally Posted by HornetGuru

Ingram is my dream pick.

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Yea Ingram would be incredible here. He is the perfect SF for our system. Has the potential to become the best two way SF in the NBA which is saying a lot. He is the Anthony Davis of SFs IMO. Having Davis/Ingram as our 1a/1b with Jrue would put this team on a different level. Add a solid two way SG and this team is in business.

Dunn is not a good fit for this team at all. He is 22 years old shooting 69% from FT while being a poor 3 point shooter. He turns over the ball more then any top prospect. With his experience and to still have these problems is very concerning. To top it all off he has already had two major shoulder surgeries while we have been the most injury plagued team in the NBA. He has been way over rated by this board and will be a bust.

I will say like this

I see 6 interesting players in top 10 (Ingram, Simmons, Bender, Hield, Dunn, Murray). I like two bigs (Sabonis and Poeltl) - but still do not think that C is our position of needs.
Of course somebody might jump to top 6 but if end of the season/lottery won't go right I will trade 7th pick for two pick in the 10s...
I see nice players in the 15-21 range... --- Valentine, Luwawu,Prince, Korkmaz, Chriss.

So do not want to speculate now - first finish the season at 6th and wait for the lottery...

wow - today Sabonis is 5th in Draft Express...

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Originally Posted by GuardianAngel25

Yea Ingram would be incredible here. He is the perfect SF for our system. Has the potential to become the best two way SF in the NBA which is saying a lot. He is the Anthony Davis of SFs IMO. Having Davis/Ingram as our 1a/1b with Jrue would put this team on a different level. Add a solid two way SG and this team is in business.

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agreed, draft Ingram, sign Fournier, nasty team

Jrue/Frazier
Fornier/Tyreke
Ingram/Q-pon
AD/Cunningham
Asik/Ajinca

i will change Fournier with Bazemore and I am fine with Your nasty team :)

btw - Sabonis was TOP-5 not in DRaftExpress but in NBADraftnet

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Originally Posted by pawel

i will change Fournier with Bazemore and I am fine with Your nasty team :)

btw - Sabonis was TOP-5 not in DRaftExpress but in NBADraftnet

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do u think bazemore is a better player or u just like him more because he will be cheaper?

I am not sure who will be cheaper.
I see Baze as more all around player
He is more SG/SF than Evan who is more SG. He does not have a SF body...

But yeah, I like him more :)

Sorry for not giving advanced stats :)

If we land the 7th pick then id trade that with our worst 2nd rounder for two late firsts if Simmons, Ingram, Murray Dunn or Heild are off the board.

Give me Valentine, Chriss and Hammons and I'll be satisfied.

EDIT: he is smaller and lighter than Fournier :]

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Originally Posted by AUSSIE_PELICAN

If we land the 7th pick then id trade that with our worst 2nd rounder for two late firsts.

Give me Valentine, Prince and Hammons and I'll be satisfied.

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16 & 24 Celts
12 & 28 PHX
22 & 27 Sixers.

Interested?

Yep. Boston or Suns

Denver could have 2 in the teens as well plus we know the GM.

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Originally Posted by GuardianAngel25

http://www.thebirdwrites.com/2016/3/...ld-murray-dunn
Back Court Measureables

http://www.thebirdwrites.com/2016/3/...s-ingram-brown
Front Court Measureables

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"Hield rains pure lava on the court."

That is masterful imagery.

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Originally Posted by pawel

I am not sure who will be cheaper.
I see Baze as more all around player
He is more SG/SF than Evan who is more SG. He does not have a SF body...

But yeah, I like him more :)

Sorry for not giving advanced stats :)

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hey man no need to apologize, if u like him u like him, and i don't blame u, I just like fornier because he is an elite shooter and would be great net to jrue and AD to stretch the floor for them both.

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Originally Posted by GuardianAngel25

http://www.thebirdwrites.com/2016/3/...ld-murray-dunn
Back Court Measureables

http://www.thebirdwrites.com/2016/3/...s-ingram-brown
Front Court Measureables

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I got ya. So they are listing him as a shooting guard.

So he is slightly undersized for the 3 still but bigger then average as a 2 but lacks high end athleticism.

Will be interesting to see how Valentine grades out at the combine. His athleticism is my biggest concern. But due to his other skill sets it might be more then enough to compensate.

How will Thon Maker impact the draft? IMO, he will be a top ten pick. He has New Orleans connections.

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Originally Posted by durun

How will Thon Maker impact the draft? IMO, he will be a top ten pick. He has New Orleans connections.

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I see him going top 15, possibly sneaking his way into the top 10.