Pelicans finalizing trade for Asik

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Originally Posted by greewe

Thomas. One of the greatest leaders our country has ever seen.

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Man i wish

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Originally Posted by MichaelMcNamara

1. Aminu is not a good defender

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I always liked how disruptive Aminu was at breaking up passing lanes with his freak-length.. but then he would go down on the other end and dribble off his forehead, commit a charge, and then knock a ice cream cone out of a four year old's hand sitting courtside.

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Originally Posted by jaxmc1023

I always liked how disruptive Aminu was at breaking up passing lanes with his freak-length.. but then he would go down on the other end and dribble off his forehead, commit a charge, and then knock a ice cream cone out of a four year old's hand sitting courtside.

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That's gold haha

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Originally Posted by MichaelMcNamara

When this is all said and done, I don't see how people can give any less than an A (if you are real with how untradeable Gordon is)

You enter June 24th looking at about 6 mil in cap room, Pierre Jackson, a 2015 protected pick, and a Room Exception and walk out with Omer Asik, Russ Smith, Patric Young, and let's say Richard Jefferson or CDR in THIS market? 6 million can't even get you Jodie Meeks. It only gets you 66% of Jordan Hill.

I want people to think about a summer where we signed CJ Miles and Nazr Mohammad instead. Or Anthony Morrow and Ekpe Udoh. Just think about that. Now, how do you feel about our actual summer?

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Yes but did we only lose Ely, Babbitt, Amunu, Smith, and Roberts to obtain those players?
That's not yet confirmed so its hard to say its an A grade.

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Originally Posted by MichaelMcNamara

Now you guys made me go and do this.

C'mon - its not Gerald Green. I said the SF issue hasn't been solved yet and that this was a small transaction. I can't let you guys get all excited. Sorry, had to stop it.

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I have an interesting idea:

Pistons are interested in Brian Roberts/Silva's contract is a non-guaranteed 810,000ish

Sign and Trade Roberts for Silva etc. and add him to the non-gauranteed contracts of Babbitt, Ely and Gee to make 8.8 mil to complete the deal and absorb Asik's contract. Boom!

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Originally Posted by JrueDat

I have an interesting idea:

Pistons are interested in Brian Roberts/Silva's contract is a non-guaranteed 810,000ish

Sign and Trade Roberts for Silva etc. and add him to the non-gauranteed contracts of Babbitt, Ely and Gee to make 8.8 mil to complete the deal and absorb Asik's contract. Boom!

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The move MM mentioned would have us keeping Babbitt so there's another shoe to drop today that will help make that work.

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Originally Posted by JrueDat

I have an interesting idea:

Pistons are interested in Brian Roberts/Silva's contract is a non-guaranteed 810,000ish

Sign and Trade Roberts for Silva etc. and add him to the non-gauranteed contracts of Babbitt, Ely and Gee to make 8.8 mil to complete the deal and absorb Asik's contract. Boom!

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Is Gees contract only 3M though?
I read somewhere it was 3.2M (hoopshype.com).
So essentially Ely, Gee and Babbitt should be enough to obsorb Asik.

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Originally Posted by AUSSIE_PELICAN

Is Gees contract only 3M though?
I read somewhere it was 3.2M (hoopshype.com).
So essentially Ely, Gee and Babbitt should be enough to obsorb Asik.

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We're short according to this article...http://www.thebirdwrites.com/2014/7/...-ramifications

What you guys have to understand about S&T's and why it rarely gets done on lower tier guys is that it has to be for more than 1 year.

Trust me, Dell has explored it, but its not as easy as just saying ' "Do it."

I'd be happy if Anthony Morrow wants to come back and start at SF.

Maybe he really wants to be here and has been waiting on us.

Hell, literally anyone that can shoot a three would be adequate at this point.

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Originally Posted by MichaelMcNamara

I say this a lot, but it really applies here: The Clippers rolled Matt Barnes out there at SF every night. The Maverics started the immortal Samuel Dalembert and had a DH at point guard in Calderon and 75 combined years between two men at SF.

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To be fair, those both sound like really good SF situations to me right now. Love our frontcourt, really like our backcourt, but let's say Tyreke plays half his minutes at the "3" (~15 minutes)---that's still 33 minutes that are going to be played by bargain bin NBA players, and that's if everyone's healthy. We have like 2.7 m and some minimum contracts to make that happen, so Dell's going to have to get creative. I agree that the goal should be shooting, low usage, low turnover, and not a tire fire defensively. Options would include CDR (my personal favorite, although not entirely convinced he can really shoot), Jordan Hamilton, Richard Jefferson. Preferred minimum guys to rotate in would include Darius Miller, Chris Johnson (if waived). I would also look at the European leagues; there's got to be someone who can shoot reasonably well and be in the right place defensively.

I think 33 is a little high personally.

And remember that at all times, whoever that guy is will be our 5th option. There is a difference between asking 25-30 mins from a guy when you want production from him and 25-30 mins when you just need him to do the little things and provide a threat.

And, again, I think people are jumping the gun here. I think that, with the room exception and the ability to offer a starting role, we get something better than Aminu and as good as Barnes, Marion, etc.

Really?? That would be great actually!

Side note: MM, I'm hosting a guy from Vegas in my house for the World Cup, Nick, and he said he knows you! Crazy world!

Should be a great game tomorrow. I got Germany 1-0

There are two sides of every deal. The Rockets can send less cash to make the deal workable if the issue is $1.5m or less. If the Pels really want the deal eliminate the cash.

I got 8-0 Germany hahha

Its Jared Dudley! I know it.

Or it could either be Brandon Rush (who the Pelicans have been targeting for a while) r Richard Jefferson (fits the role a bit too). But I'm pretty sure Dudley.

Germany winning 2-0, EUROPE getting this WC lol

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Originally Posted by Vinny6420

Germany winning 2-0, EUROPE getting this WC lol

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Don't really care if it's europe or not, just not Argentina! please!

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Originally Posted by Rafa Brazil

Don't really care if it's europe or not, just not Argentina! please!

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No European team has done it on South American soil lol

Hopefully deutschland will begin that trend

No one is forgetting that 7-1 win anytime soon

Neither are we, I can tell you that! Hope it helps changing whats wrong with our soccer.

Who would have thought the absence of Neymar and Thiago Silva(who I miss on AC Milan) would have that type of impact.

So MM, we are not getting a SF in the trade, just space to sign one in FA?


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Originally Posted by Sleeper

So MM, we are not getting a SF in the trade, just space to sign one in FA?


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I asked that question yesterday and he never answered!

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Originally Posted by MichaelMcNamara

And that is exactly what they are targeting.

I think it is an insanely deep roster that is one move away (guess which one) from being a terror. People see the below avg player at SF, but how many teams have a good to great player at all 5 positions? Better yet, how many teams have a 6th and 7th man like Ryno and Tyreke???

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I would like to see how josh Howard plays summer league.

Honestly, I wouldn't mind seeing Josh Howard make the team. Nothing like a D-League and Summer League stint to get the mind right.

I don't put much stock into Summer League performance because Brian Roberts.

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Originally Posted by Hornets2013

I don't put much stock into Summer League performance because Brian Roberts.

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You act like Brian Roerts is a terrible. He isn't. He's a good 3rd string PG to bring in for 10 minutes a game or so. Blame Monty for giving up so much time and making him run the offense.

Hate to see Aminu go, but hey, if we keep Babbitt, then I'm all for it. Smitty I'm on the fence, I think I rather Ajinca/Withey/Young and of course Babbitt.

Would love to see Rivers go... hopefully we can involve him in a S&T to up the level of our incoming SF.

Thought we kept the MLE by renouncing those guys... weird. I need to brush up on my cap info.

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Originally Posted by Sleeper

So MM, we are not getting a SF in the trade, just space to sign one in FA?


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Keep in mind, no matter what we won't have "space". We will have the RLE which is 2yr/2.8M a year.

That and vet minimums.

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Originally Posted by Mythrol

Keep in mind, no matter what we won't have "space". We will have the RLE which is 2yr/2.8M a year.

That and vet minimums.

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Yep. Start looking at SF who might be able to be had for that. Gonna be interesting to see where the SF musical chairs stop.

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Originally Posted by The JNR

Honestly, I wouldn't mind seeing Josh Howard make the team. Nothing like a D-League and Summer League stint to get the mind right.

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I liked Josh Howard's game when he was in Dallas but i was not impressed with him last night. He was having trouble guarding the perimeter which is not a good sign. He did have a couple flashes of "old josh" on offense.
Still a couple more games (and then the summer league SHIP!) I'm rooting for him.

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Originally Posted by TBlaze

Hate to see Aminu go, but hey, if we keep Babbitt, then I'm all for it. Smitty I'm on the fence, I think I rather Ajinca/Withey/Young and of course Babbitt.

Would love to see Rivers go... hopefully we can involve him in a S&T to up the level of our incoming SF.

Thought we kept the MLE by renouncing those guys... weird. I need to brush up on my cap info.

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pels lost the mle and bae when the traded for gee into cap space
room exception is what's left and what they'll presumably sign a SF with

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Originally Posted by MichaelMcNamara

Yep. Start looking at SF who might be able to be had for that. Gonna be interesting to see where the SF musical chairs stop.

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I'm laying my money on Jordan Hamilton. It seems like it's going to take a guy that hasn't gotten a ton of minutes.

I'd say Jefferson but with what Vets are getting in the open market I think he's out of the picture. I mean if VC can get a 3yr/12M deal, I don't see how Jefferson can't get a 2yr/8M.

I'd say get the presses fired up for some CDR jerseys

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Originally Posted by MichaelMcNamara

Yep. Start looking at SF who might be able to be had for that. Gonna be interesting to see where the SF musical chairs stop.

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I think we'll probably end up with Francisco Garcia and Darius Miller.

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Originally Posted by cgrand

I'd say get the presses fired up for some CDR jerseys

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If we sign CDR it will really mess up our least tattooed team award.

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Originally Posted by Mythrol

I'm laying my money on Jordan Hamilton. It seems like it's going to take a guy that hasn't gotten a ton of minutes.

I'd say Jefferson but with what Vets are getting in the open market I think he's out of the picture. I mean if VC can get a 3yr/12M deal, I don't see how Jefferson can't get a 2yr/8M.

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Like I have said, I don't know this part of the equation. Pure guess on my part. I don't think they have come to terms with the guy yet and we ware still exploring. I think it will all depend on how the musical chairs play out and we are going to have to wait for guys who miss out on the MLE and/or starting spots. I do think the ability to offer a starting position will help us. It won't trump 5M per year offers, but I could see a guy taking 2.8 and a starting spot over 3.5 or even 4.

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Originally Posted by cgrand

I'd say get the presses fired up for some CDR jerseys

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I think it would be a good move. Even though he has been in the league a few years, i think he still is coachable. As i mentioned in another thread, he was dominating on defense in college. He's a lengthy guy that will be able to get into shooters faces on the perimeter. If we decide to move to a run an gun type of offense he would make a great starter because that's his game.

Doesn't hurt that he went to University of Memphis where i graduated. That would make two former Tigers on the team.


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Originally Posted by Sleeper

I think it would be a good move. Even though he has been in the league a few years, i think he still is coachable. As i mentioned in another thread, he was dominating on defense in college. He's a lengthy guy that will be able to get into shooters faces on the perimeter. If we decide to move to a run an gun type of offense he would make a great starter because that's his game.

Doesn't hurt that he went to University of Memphis where i graduated. That would make two former Tigers on the team.


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I loved CDR at Memphis and remember thinking that the nets stole him at the draft
but I also thought the clips stole aminu so what do I know

hawks just signed bazemore for 2/4MM
he's another summer league star but i would have thought he would have been looking for playing time
Not gonna see the court in atl

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Originally Posted by MichaelMcNamara

Yep. Start looking at SF who might be able to be had for that. Gonna be interesting to see where the SF musical chairs stop.

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Wesley Johnson + Summer league guy, outside of that i'm ignorant to our trade possibilities. So that's the type of guy i think we roll with.

Young Vet, he's reached that magical age of 27 where a lot of these guys resurface and become the roll players they should have been in the first place, after being humbled and maturing.

3 & D potential, former high lotto pick, and he would fit into that price range based on what he was just paid... Since Frodo Baggins doesn't = A certain SF playing for a team over crowed at that position and missing a place to hold his precious.

Garcia would be a perfect fit

Anthony Morrow has agreed to join the Thunder, giving Oklahoma City a 3-point shooter and depth on the wing. Story coming soon.

— Darnell Mayberry (@DarnellMayberry) July 12, 2014

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Originally Posted by jhow0036

Anthony Morrow has agreed to join the Thunder, giving Oklahoma City a 3-point shooter and depth on the wing. Story coming soon.

— Darnell Mayberry (@DarnellMayberry) July 12, 2014

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He will ride the bench in OKC, all of his weaknesses will be highlighted because there is no ball movement on that team and their two primary scorers don't pass... 23 shots for KD, 32 shots for Westbrook. 2 shots per game won't get Morrow toes warm, he damn sure won't get enough touches to look like the sharp shooter he is.

I'm joking, but i'm serious. He's on a playoff team, but the cycle is going to be repeated, the cycle that led him to us and a resuscitating of his career. Good Luck Morrow, except when it has any bearing on us.

Alan Anderson, Chris Douglas-Roberts, Jae Crowder, Francisco Garcia, Richard Jefferson, Jordan Hamilton, Wesley Johnson.

Those are the guys that I see that I'm atleast a little interested in. Though there's really only two of them I'm not "meh" over.

This is probably a dumb question, but are there no rules that keep us from moving Gee to Houston? Like a 30 day deal or something.

Actually let me rephrase that. Obviously they can trade him now, but what makes him different from another player who has to wait a certain amount of days to trade?