Pelicans finalizing trade for Asik

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Originally Posted by bojangles837

No it's Gerald green {edited - language!}


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No man you've got it all wrong. It's definitely not green. It's the furthest thing from green. *wink wink*

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Originally Posted by bojangles837

No it's Gerald green {edited - language!}


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I'm not hearing confidence in this post ;)

So. Mm was wrong then?

No lol it's one of those Europeans


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I think you are all on to something with Gerald Green.

An "supposed" insider at Clutchfans quoted someone who talked about the Rockets acquiring Goran Dragic in a three way trade, extending the Asik deal to a three team deal with the Suns.

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Originally Posted by bojangles837

No lol it's one of those Europeans


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If I'm right I want Peeler for Gamble

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Originally Posted by JJackisangry

If I'm right I want Peeler for Gamble

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No way bruh. Peeler is my savior


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Originally Posted by bojangles837

so its either shavlik lol, ridnour, jimmer, or sasha.

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If those are the 4 to choose from, I would think it has to be Shavlik Randolph as Sasha is playing overseas I think and Jimmer and Ridnour are FAs. Also, Randolph's contract is not guaranteed.

Might be Aminu Sign and Trade for Jared Dudley!

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Originally Posted by PELICANSFAN

If those are the 4 to choose from, I would think it has to be Shavlik Randolph as Sasha is playing overseas I think and Jimmer and Ridnour are FAs. Also, Randolph's contract is not guaranteed.

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thatd be funny cause my friend said that as a troll post

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Originally Posted by Topdawg26

Might be Aminu Sign and Trade for Jared Dudley!

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Dudley already signed a 3 year contract with the Suns, IIRC.

Man if it's Pavlovic again...how many times do we have to flog the same players over and over.

I really hope it isn't Jimmer. He never learned how to move off the ball, but so many people will complain we aren't using him correctly. He is a ball-dominant guard that can't create for himself.

Man the Rockets board is comedy gold right now, they think they can get Ryno added in the Asik deal:hihi:

Someone mentioned Dudley. I hope it's him. And I hope we don't give up an important component for him. But I'd be happy with Dudley. Damn straight.

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Originally Posted by bojangles837

thatd be funny cause my friend said that as a troll post

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Would be a perfect fit. If you combine the contracts of Ely, Gee and Randolph, it would be $5,544,794. If you multiply those contracts by 150% and add $100,000, we could take on contracts worth up to $8,417,191. Asik's contract cap is $8,374,646.

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Originally Posted by Kibner

Dudley already signed a 3 year contract with the Suns, IIRC.

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Wow, I am just completely misreading posts today. I saw Dudley but thought Tucker. Man, I'm out of it.

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Originally Posted by jhow0036

Jason Lloyd*@JasonLloydABJabout 37 minutes ago

Scotty Hopson has replaced Alonzo Gee in*#Cavs*trade w/Hornets for Dwight Powell and Brendan Haywood, per league source. Deal official tmrw

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I think too many people are overlooking this. Lol

Wait. Nvm. This doesn't effect us. For some reason I thought it was a 3team trade. Its not. It's two separate transactions.

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Would be a perfect fit. If you combine the contracts of Ely, Gee and Randolph, it would be $5,544,794. If you multiply those contracts by 150% and add $100,000, we could take on contracts worth up to $8,417,191. Asik's contract cap is $8,374,646.

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Well there you go.


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Did we win mm?



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in a possibly coinciding move... Pelicans renounced AFA, Smiht & Southerland

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Originally Posted by bojangles837

Did we win mm?



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You win a big box of black... zuchinnis?

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Originally Posted by NOLa.

You win a big box of black... zuchinnis?

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You're too close man. You're too close.


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Originally Posted by bojangles837

You're too close man. You're too close.


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These boots were made for walking...

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Originally Posted by MichaelMcNamara

How does this look?

Jrue/Rivers/Russ
Gordon/Evans
FA/ Southerland or Miller
AD/Ryno/Babbitt
Asik/Ajinca/Withey/Young

And before people ask - No, I didn't make any mistakes.

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This is from earlier tonight, and now we learn that Smith, Aminu, and Southerland are gone. Hmm...

I wouldn't say Southerland is gone.

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Originally Posted by AD23forMVP

I wouldn't say Southerland is gone.

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Yeah, he would only get a minimum contract anyway if we kept him.

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Originally Posted by AD23forMVP

I wouldn't say Southerland is gone.

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I've seen Smith and Aminu gone, and all 3 gone. Is he isn't gone, then that's cool. Seems like some simple miscommunication maybe.

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Originally Posted by JunkHead

I've seen Smith and Aminu gone, and all 3 gone. Is he isn't gone, then that's cool. Seems like some simple miscommunication maybe.

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Well I don't mean that we didn't renounce him, we probably did. But he'd be easy to bring back for camp in October. Similar to what we did with Lance Thomas.

Renouncing someone doesn't mean they are dead.

Geez people.

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Originally Posted by MichaelMcNamara

How does this look?

Jrue/Rivers/Russ
Gordon/Evans
FA/ Southerland or Miller
AD/Ryno/Babbitt
Asik/Ajinca/Withey/Young

And before people ask - No, I didn't make any mistakes.

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Unless we can pull off a trade for a SF, I think someone like Jefferson or Butler could look good in that starting SF role if we can get them at minimum or using the room exception.

we need a leader on this team too. jefferson would fit the bill

RIP to all that we have renounced

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Originally Posted by bojangles837

we need a leader on this team too. jefferson would fit the bill

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Not entirely sure what Jefferson you mean

Some of you guys may literally be the most annoying people ever... every thread always seems to have "is that enough to sign Morrow?", Morrow is gone, finito, no more.

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Originally Posted by Vinny6420

Not entirely sure what Jefferson you mean

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richard

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Originally Posted by Bull DatsWho

I would rather Green, but Luke Ridnour's nickname was Frodo.

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Elijah Wood (Frodo) also played a kid named Luke in the movie Child in the Night. So we're signing Luke Ridnour! Wait, what..? I dunno, but I think Luke is the clue...

We have a bit too many people at the 5...not enough at the 2/3. And i'd rather keep reke the starter and let gordon play what scrap of minutes he can come by

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We have a bit too many people at the 5...not enough at the 2/3. And i'd rather keep reke the starter and let gordon play what scrap of minutes he can come by

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You may be right. Of course, Demps isn't through by any means. I actually would like to see the Pelicans carry that many centers because of the frequency of injuries to big men as well as for developmental purposes.

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Originally Posted by MichaelMcNamara

How does this look?

Jrue/Rivers/Russ
Gordon/Evans
FA/ Southerland or Miller
AD/Ryno/Babbitt
Asik/Ajinca/Withey/Young

And before people ask - No, I didn't make any mistakes.

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The problem is no Morrow. We gave up about $5M in exceptions we could have used part of to sign Morrow, who can play some SF. Getting Ajinca, Rivers, and Babbitt (in that order for me) is nice, but we still have a huge hole at starting SF and no Morrow.

I think we are going to be looking outside the box at this position. May be another trade or a summer league guy like josh Howard. I don't see that many guys that will be that much better than them in our range who's a free agent

So unless it's another trade or overseas guy. I think it well me a Demps rabbit out of the hat.

When this is all said and done, I don't see how people can give any less than an A (if you are real with how untradeable Gordon is)

You enter June 24th looking at about 6 mil in cap room, Pierre Jackson, a 2015 protected pick, and a Room Exception and walk out with Omer Asik, Russ Smith, Patric Young, and let's say Richard Jefferson or CDR in THIS market? 6 million can't even get you Jodie Meeks. It only gets you 66% of Jordan Hill.

I want people to think about a summer where we signed CJ Miles and Nazr Mohammad instead. Or Anthony Morrow and Ekpe Udoh. Just think about that. Now, how do you feel about our actual summer?

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Originally Posted by MichaelMcNamara

When this is all said and done, I don't see how people can give any less than an A (if you are real with how untradeable Gordon is)

You enter June 24th looking at about 6 mil in cap room, Pierre Jackson, a 2015 protected pick, and a Room Exception and walk out with Omer Asik, Pierre Jackson, Patric Young, and let's say Richard Jefferson or CDR in THIS market? 6 million can't even get you Jodie Meeks. It only gets you 66% of Jordan Hill.

I want people to think about a summer where we signed CJ Miles and Nazr Mohammad instead. Or Anthony Morrow and Ekpe Udoh. Just think about that. Now, how do you feel about our actual summer?

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I think you meant Russ Smith. But I completely agree. Especially considering some contracts that have been sent out, those players all have comparable value. I'm happy with the offseason, just waiting for the FA at SF.

I say this a lot, but it really applies here:

If people can find me a perfect roster, I would love to see it. I mean, the Thunder started Perkins and gave Derek Fisher crunch time minutes. The Clippers rolled Matt Barnes out there at SF every night. The Blazers had absolutely no depth. The Maverics started the immortal Samuel Dalembert and had a DH at point guard in Calderon and 75 combined years between two men at SF.

I can go on and on, but the point is that if you expected a stud at every position, that isn't fair IMO. When Gordon is moveable? Now, that could be possible. And that's possible down the line, just not now. You've got 6 really good players when healthy - one potential MVP caliber one - and some amazing depth across the board. I mean, this team is hands down better than the 2007-08 Hornets if AD makes that next leap, right?

I hope our free agent is Aminu. Seriously. I don't see any options out there that contribute nearly what he does to winning basketball games. It's not all about 3-pointers and spacing. Rebounding and defense are also needed.

For the season, I want to see the following averages:
Davis - 36 min
Asik - 28 min
Anderson - 28 min
Withey/Young/Ajinca - 6 min
Holliday - 36 min
Evans - 30 min (unless his conditioning has improved to allow more...)
Gordon - 20 min
Aminu - 20 min
Rivers/Russ/SF2/SF3 - 18 min

If healthy, Davis/Asik/Evans/Holliday should start every game. If Aminu starts at the 3 because we need to defend a special opposing player, then Evans starts at the 2. Otherwise Evans starts at the 3 and Gordon at the 2. Some games Anderson may play some at the 3 with Davis and Asik/Withey/Ajinca to get him minutes. I hope we keep all of the listed bigs, to maintain depth for injuries, foul trouble, and resting AD/Anderson when we are in a blowout victory.

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Originally Posted by Vinny6420

Not entirely sure what Jefferson you mean

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Thomas. One of the greatest leaders our country has ever seen.

1. Aminu is not a good defender

2. Rebounding is no longer a priority from our SF with AD and Asik on the roster.

With two defensive studs at the rim and Jrue pressuring the ball, an average defender will look good on this squad. You have to look to the other side of the ball for our SF. A knockdown shooter is needed. If he can put the ball on the floor when teams close out hard and even pass fairly well, that would be ideal. The thing I do agree with is that whoever comes in at SF will only get 20-25 mins and won't finish games. So basically, we are looking for a 7th man.

I'm would just be glad not to have Aminu starting anymore. Also, all I really want is a SF that can make 3's on a consistent basis.

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Originally Posted by MichaelMcNamara

1. Aminu is not a good defender

2. Rebounding is no longer a priority from our SF with AD and Asik on the roster.

With two defensive studs at the rim and Jrue pressuring the ball, an average defender will look good on this squad. You have to look to the other side of the ball for our SF. A knockdown shooter is needed. If he can put the ball on the floor when teams close out hard and even pass fairly well, that would be ideal. The thing I do agree with is that whoever comes in at SF will only get 20-25 mins and won't finish games. So basically, we are looking for a 7th man.

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Wow you summed up my thoughts a minute before I could post it. lol!