2013 Playoffs Discussion Thread

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Originally Posted by BallSoHard

The announcers were right though. The Pacers really really need a PG. I think Jennings would be a good fit, except that it's not a major market. No one can just create on that team.

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I said that a few nights ago. They should sign and trade for Jennings, moving Granger to Mil. Get another scorer in Jennings and have more cap space.

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Originally Posted by Nola Hornet

Paul George... What a disappointing game 7.

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Hes still pretty young so he gets a pass for now. The Heat just dominated this game... GOD I hate both teams in the finals. This reaaaally psuckssss

Come on Pacers. 2:17 left. We need a comeback.

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Originally Posted by UNO Gracias

The Pacers will be back. Make no bones about it, they will give George a max deal, but Hibbert and West don't have max deals. The Pacers could use a solid pg, but with Granger back they are my sleeper pick for NBA Champs next season. The Heat are their hump, and they nearly got over it.

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I thought Hibbert just got a max this summer?

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Originally Posted by Hornets2013

Come on Pacers. 2:17 left. We need a comeback.

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The Pacers could use that pg in your avatar.

Flo Rider manager talking trash lol

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Originally Posted by UNO Gracias

The Pacers could use that pg in your avatar.

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Word.

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Originally Posted by BallSoHard

I thought Hibbert just got a max this summer?

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Yep

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Originally Posted by BallSoHard

I thought Hibbert just got a max this summer?

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No, he got a slightly less than max deal. 4 yr $58 mil. Is that Max (not sure).

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Originally Posted by UNO Gracias

No, he got a slightly less than max deal. 4 yr $58 mil. Is that Max (not sure).

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Close enough lol

When do the Finales start?

Thursday

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Originally Posted by JJackisangry

When do the Finales start?

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TBH, I think that they just ended.

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Originally Posted by Emilio

Thursday

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Awsome. Thank you good sir.

GO



SPURS

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Originally Posted by UNO Gracias

TBH, I think that they just ended.

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Haha tell me about it. Im so disapointed, but this will probably be an exciting finals at least... So.. Theres that

Hey looks like Flo Rider's manager came back, I thought he was thrown out.

Haha mickey looks like Lewis Black

David Stern got his match up.

This great series deserved a more competitive ending.

That was a fine ending. The Pacers crapped out, but seeing how Stern would have killed for NY/ Miami series.

At least the Finals will be interesting now. The Spurs would have handled the Pacers easily. At least Miami can battle with them and win.

Pacers were better without Granger. He became a soft jump shooting chucker after he got his contract.

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Originally Posted by Pelicans78

Pacers were better without Granger. He became a soft jump shooting chucker after he got his contract.

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I hope you know that I reported this post to the mods. I told them that somebody hacked Pelicans78's account and wrote about how losing an All Star is better for a team. When Pelicans78 finds out about what you have been doing to his account he is going to be ticked.

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Originally Posted by UNO Gracias

I hope you know that I reported this post to the mods. I told them that somebody hacked Pelicans78's account and wrote about how losing an All Star is better for a team. When Pelicans78 finds out about what you have been doing to his account he is going to be ticked.

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They were a better team this year without Granger. George moved to his natural position at the SF and the Pacers added another athletic defender in Stephenson in the starting lineup. Plus with Granger in the lineup, George wouldn't have gotten nearly as many touches. Granger isn't the same player he was a few years ago. His shot selection deteriorated since he started settling for jumpers. Obviously they missed him since they went further in the playoffs without him and took the Heat to 7 games where last year they lost in 6 games even with the Heat missing Bosh.

Granger last made the All-Star team in 2009.

I can't get behind that. Their bench was horrible. They got absolutely nothing from the guys riding the bench. With Granger back, Lance Stevenson is on the bench helping that unit. And with Granger back they have another scorer to go with Paul George. There is this misconception about George going on where people think he came out of nowhere this year. Last year George showed that he was on the verge of something big, Granger being out sped it up, but he was going to be who he was going to be with or without Granger (35% of the people on this board knew that). With Hill, George, Granger, West, and Hibbert that would have been enough, but I don't think we will see that potential lineup next year.

Next year with Granger (or with a better pg) the Pacers will be scary. Looking forward to what they can do.

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Originally Posted by UNO Gracias

I can't get behind that. Their bench was horrible. They got absolutely nothing from the guys riding the bench. With Granger back, Lance Stevenson is on the bench helping that unit. And with Granger back they have another scorer to go with Paul George. There is this misconception about George going on where people think he came out of nowhere this year. Last year George showed that he was on the verge of something big, Granger being out sped it up, but he was going to be who he was going to be with or without Granger (35% of the people on this board knew that). With Hill, George, Granger, West, and Hibbert that would have been enough, but I don't think we will see that potential lineup next year.

Next year with Granger (or with a better pg) the Pacers will be scary. Looking forward to what they can do.

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I still don't think George and Granger will play well together. Both will want to to get their touches and Granger tends to chuck alot of shots, even bad ones. They do need more bench help. They also need to clear Granger's salary if their gonna improve the bench. This team may have taken the Heat to 7, but they weren't gonna be much of a matchup against the Spurs in the Finals. Hibbert/West would have been neutralized by the Duncan/Splitter and the Spurs would have had a big advantage on the perimeter and the bench, with or without Granger. The truth is you're letting your personal feelings about Granger bias you when it comes to him.

Heck with Splitter/ Duncan neutralizing Hibbert/West (which I doubt would have happened seeing as how the Indy bigs were playing amazing this series), what was going to lose them the Spurs series was George Hill (injury and inability are a horrible combo when facing Parker). Throw in Leonard on Lance...it wouldn't have been a sexy matchup, but it would have gone the distance as well.

Personal feelings for Granger? The only feeling I have is that by adding a key contributor from the prior years team would have made a big impact (in a positive way) for the pacers.

Notes from last night game:

- Vogel could not counter-act MIA's trap defense. Good move by Spo.
- MIA proved that Hill is not a good enough point and the Pacers should be looking to draft Shane Larkin the minute he appears on the board. A great facilitator who can shoot and won't take away from the core.
- Pacers bench is HORRIBLE. I mean, only way they were going to win is if West and Hibbert played all 48 minutes.

Hope the Heat aren't depending on TO's to beat the Spurs because that won't happen. Heat will have the offensive freedom they are used to but they will face that has one of the best benches in the league.

Spurs in 6 or 7. Spurs might not have the enforcer in the paint to stop the driving but they have the savvyness and knowledge to contain them.

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Originally Posted by UNO Gracias

Heck with Splitter/ Duncan neutralizing Hibbert/West (which I doubt would have happened seeing as how the Indy bigs were playing amazing this series), what was going to lose them the Spurs series was George Hill (injury and inability are a horrible combo when facing Parker). Throw in Leonard on Lance...it wouldn't have been a sexy matchup, but it would have gone the distance as well.

Personal feelings for Granger? The only feeling I have is that by adding a key contributor from the prior years team would have made a big impact (in a positive way) for the pacers.

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Miami has one of the softest frontlines in the league. No comparison to Duncan/Splitter who are big and both very skilled. They manhandled Gasol/Randolph which is a better frontcourt tandem compared to Hibbert/West and the Grizzlies have a very good PG to give them the ball. Splitter would easily shut down West as he did to Randolph and Duncan would outplay Hibbert as he did to Gasol. Also, Leonard is the Spurs best perimeter defender. He would be matched up on George. Add in the big advantage of Parker at the point and a bigger advantage for the Spurs bench, that series would be over in 4 or 5. Indiana got exposed in Game 7 last night. When the Heat turned up the intensity, the Pacers got blown out. That game wasn't even competitive last night.

Granger would help, but 14 million is better spent elsewhere especially since he plays the same position as George. Plus he's not nearly the same player he was 4-5 years ago.

Key moment of the game:

When Lebron stepped out to Guard Toney Parker.. Everybody wanted to See what happens when you put LeBron on parker to slow him down... Until they realize Pop doesn't allow one on one play.. The screen was coming naturally.. LeBron got Caught and didn't hedge knowing Parker wasn't looking for the 3.. He switched to Duncan and Left Bosh in no mans land to guard Parker on the Perimeter.. Bad Move.. the only thing that messed Parker up was Ginobli didn't head to the corner to keep Wade away. Did'nt Matter. Parker Possess the Clutch Gene LeBron will never have.