2024 PELICANS Summer League Schedule & Gameday thread!

This team is going to start the year with two guys at center who couldn't even dominate Summer League. They played well in spots, but this is a Griffin recipe for disaster for Green.

They just need to do their role. Not dominate. We have 4 already who will put up 15-25+ pts a night. Plus another 2 with 10-15+.

Summer league isn't about who puts up big numbers it's finding those to complement our stars already.

Honestly we just need them to be able to defend and rebound. Missi just needs as many minutes as possible. He’s so underdeveloped but has tons of raw talent. Also make no mistake, these guys in SL are not starting at center in the regular season. If we don?t make a move and the roster stays as currently constructed it will be DT or Zion if they choose to go small so you can have both CJ/Herb starting.

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Originally Posted by bustah

They just need to do their role. Not dominate. We have 4 already who will put up 15-25+ pts a night. Plus another 2 with 10-15+.

Summer league isn't about who puts up big numbers it's finding those to complement our stars already.

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Assuming 20 something min out of Theis and Zion playing some of his minutes at center we need 10 min from Missi or Matkovic. That's for the times when those 2 guys are healthy, when one goes down we could be looking at significant minutes from 1 or both of those guys. It probably will be rough at times but I agree we have enough scorers on the floor that we just need the bigs to do pick and rolls, rebound, and protect the rim. Hopefully Missi can be coached up to handle that despite being essentially new to basketball.

I saw what I needed from the players I needed to see. We already know Hawk and what he needs to work on. Reeves looked very comfortable on drives and finished well. He has a nice low center of gravity and will take it to the rim. Gotta see him more from the 3. Karlo looks like he could be useful. Again, have to see him prove it in the NBA. Missi looks active and athletic like we expect him to be. Looks like he is capable of growing his interior game. He looks comfortable at the line though everybody kinda struggled there tonight. A couple of other standouts but nothing much. Hall and Houser may be worth a look. Nothing really special from the others.

The offseason isn't over yet. Griff said that the roster is not set until training camp, or even after. They are going to make another move, possibly for a C or more, and maybe with a team or teams we haven't even thought about that much.

karl matkovic's nickname needs to me k mat. done

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Originally Posted by smcgull

The offseason isn't over yet. Griff said that the roster is not set until training camp, or even after. They are going to make another move, possibly for a C or more, and maybe with a team or teams we haven't even thought about that much.

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They have 15 on the roster now but add more for training camp. I wonder about what they are going to do with the center position. It sparks curiosity.

If no trade, this lineup is what I would like to see a lot of.

DJM / Herb / BI / TM3 / Z

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Originally Posted by Lee2000

This team is going to start the year with two guys at center who couldn't even dominate Summer League. They played well in spots, but this is a Griffin recipe for disaster for Green.

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Summer league dominance means very little. You are playing with a bunch of guys you just met.

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Originally Posted by JJackisangry

Summer league dominance means very little. You are playing with a bunch of guys you just met.

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The one thing the Summer League can demonstrate is the need for growth. These guys have a lot of work to get significant minutes. They will be going up against the best in the West, with Looney being the likely weakest. I liked what I saw, but Mackovic had 7 turnovers (8 for Hawkins). A lot of this "small ball" will be against some of the best inside games in the league. I hope it works. If it doesn't, coaching changes are on the horizon.

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Originally Posted by Lee2000

The one thing the Summer League can demonstrate is the need for growth. These guys have a lot of work to get significant minutes. They will be going up against the best in the West, with Looney being the likely weakest. I liked what I saw, but Mackovic had 7 turnovers (8 for Hawkins). A lot of this "small ball" will be against some of the best inside games in the league. I hope it works. If it doesn't, coaching changes are on the horizon.

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We also when from Vinson to Myles so that needs to come into consideration as well as this summer league team is way less loaded than some of our other ones. Agreed completely that it is all about development which is why Jordan is seeing so much of the ballhandling. He needs to protect his dribble more (maybe go lower with it?) and needs to work on finishing over other players. Reeves showed good promise there because he not only would beat his man but he would change his shot to avoid getting blocked. Jordan needs to be a bit less predictable and do the same.

Karlo Matkovic is a significantly better player than Yves Missi right now.

They both look good and promising. Excited about that duo.

They left Matkovic open and dared him to shoot a 3... he knocked it down. Have the announcers saying its making more sense why the Pelicans let Jonas walk.

Matkovic leading a comeback for the Pels. Hitting pick and roll dunks, mid range and perimeter shots, and not forcing it either, making the right play each time. Wait a minute now.

Matkovic with a crazy block in the paint too... somebody please post a 4th quarter highlight reel for Matkovic

I think As of now Theis and Marco would get the bulk of the "true 5" minutes when we're not going small. Missi would get mop-up minutes while he develops. We'll get killed on the boards though.

3 for 11 from 3 is disgusting.

Bad game from Jordan Hawkins but great job by whoever drew up the play to get him an open look to tie the game.

Has anyone seen anything in Hawkins over this last year that would give you confidence he can be a contributor? His size hurts him on offense and his ballhandling precludes him from ever being a good driver to the basket. Additionally he doesn’t seem to have the dawg in him that is needed from a player his size to compete. Let’s not even get started on his defense which isn’t worthy of a highschooler at this point. Two years in a row this team blows their first round pick on a G, Hawkins and Daniels before him. Maybe Griffin thought he could combine the two.

I?d like to see Murray take more of the point of attack responsibilities away from Herb so that Herb can be the effective center against the finesse bigs of the NBA. Imagine trying to effectively run any pick and roll where Herb is the guy hedging.

Matko looks like he could soak NBA minutes but I?d be surprised if he even beat out JRE.

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Originally Posted by Pelifan

Matko looks like he could soak NBA minutes but I?d be surprised if he even beat out JRE.

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Why?? What does Robison Earl do better than Matkovich? Did you see how hard Matkovich was rolling to the rim after setting screens? Finished multiple lob dunks that way and opened up floaters for Ford too just from the threat of it. He had 3 blocks and led the team in rebounds (although he could have done even more there probably). He has the athleticism and effort to get up and down the floor and make plays on both sides of the court. He also has the size to play center, where JRE is out of position and undersized.

This dude is about to be our number 1 option at center. Yes I said it.

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Originally Posted by Jaxpel

Has anyone seen anything in Hawkins over this last year that would give you confidence he can be a contributor? His size hurts him on offense and his ballhandling precludes him from ever being a good driver to the basket. Additionally he doesn’t seem to have the dawg in him that is needed from a player his size to compete. Let’s not even get started on his defense which isn’t worthy of a highschooler at this point. Two years in a row this team blows their first round pick on a G, Hawkins and Daniels before him. Maybe Griffin thought he could combine the two.

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in respect to Daniels, he is going to be a very solid player still. Let's sub kira lewis' name for his

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Originally Posted by hornetsrebirth

Why?? What does Robison Earl do better than Matkovich? Did you see how hard Matkovich was rolling to the rim after setting screens? Finished multiple lob dunks that way and opened up floaters for Ford too just from the threat of it. He had 3 blocks and led the team in rebounds (although he could have done even more there probably). He has the athleticism and effort to get up and down the floor and make plays on both sides of the court. He also has the size to play center, where JRE is out of position and undersized.

This dude is about to be our number 1 option at center. Yes I said it.

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He has looked so good that I’m content with him just playing and developing any way. If he starts, that would be great. Just give him 18-20 mins a game minimum and let him develop.

Would have liked to see our guys perform a bit better, but summer league is always rough with the amount of contact they let go. Would have liked Reeves to make a few 3’s. Hawkins was obviously told to practice his weaknesses during summer league so I will cut him a little slack. Missi still looks like he will be solid from the FTline which is a great sign for a big. Karlo looks good. I think we have one more game? Would like to see Hawkins in particular have a good game. He has had a rough summer league. Hasn’t dealt with the physicality well.

Not sure any other player on this summer squad will get an invite to camp other than the drafted guys.

Karlo played very good, really turned it on in the second half. Went a stretch where he was fouling a bit too much. My guess is that will get straightened out with time

Missi played well defensively, but needs to focus on boxing out/reboundind and developing a go to move offensively that not a jump shot. He tried it a few times, kid you don’t have that in your bag rn.


Doubt he gets an invite but I liked what I saw from Ford.

Ware looks very good, should've traded up

Don’t give up on Missi just yet lol I think he’s going to develop very well for us.

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Originally Posted by Lee2000

Not sure any other player on this summer squad will get an invite to camp other than the drafted guys.

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Agree. For some reason, many are not even getting any playing time. Cousinard, Oduro and Crutcher have not played at all. Obanor has only played in one game.

I meant Missi looks good from the FT line XD

This is definitely the worst summer league team I can remember. We at least had some guys before that were exciting to watch. Karlo is really the only guy that has done anything worth watching.

You have to be kidding me with the Pels SL injuries. Missi gets elbowed in the eye.

Contact came out. He found it LOL.

This team has zero pros on it.

One of the most trash basketball teams you will ever see.

Hawkins look horrible right now

Is karlo hurt or just not playing anymore ?

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Originally Posted by Algiersraised

Is karlo hurt or just not playing anymore ?

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I just think every coach besides Borrego that is in a Pelicans shirt is absolute Manure.

Aaron Miles might be the worst coach they ever hired.

Well if he’s not hurt it makes sense to sit him down if they are planning on him being a contributing factor this year

Miles actually seems like a good coach from watching his interviews
I think these players are just really trash and kinda soft
Reeves and Hawkins should be playing though

Missi has the potential to be pretty solid but i don’t see any naji marshalls or Jose Alvarados on this team lol

Missi is playing good on both ends.

It’s good they letting the grizzlies get so physical Hawkins gone have to get that muscle and force up

These dudes are absolute trash.

Hawkins is trash. He won’t play a minute under Willie. Dude is just Pooh

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Originally Posted by Algiersraised

It’s good they letting the grizzlies get so physical Hawkins gone have to get that muscle and force up

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In the Gleague

Jordan Ford better get a second look.

I agree Jordan needs to be in the g league if he’s not careful reeves has the ability to pass him up